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		<title>By: World oil map &#187; The Sly Oyster &#124; culture &#38; entertainment on the sly &#187; Blog Archive</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-255555</link>
		<dc:creator>World oil map &#187; The Sly Oyster &#124; culture &#38; entertainment on the sly &#187; Blog Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] map of the world, reshaped to resemble the world where the largest countries in land mass are the largest countries [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] map of the world, reshaped to resemble the world where the largest countries in land mass are the largest countries [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-255503</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why isn&#039;t Canada massive?

Considering &quot;known&quot; reserves aren&#039;t really known at all I find the map a little off. Working in the oil industry, I can say that Iraq may have that much oil but it can only produce enough to barely sustain the exploration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why isn't Canada massive?</p>
<p>Considering "known" reserves aren't really known at all I find the map a little off. Working in the oil industry, I can say that Iraq may have that much oil but it can only produce enough to barely sustain the exploration.</p>
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		<title>By: glasnost</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251851</link>
		<dc:creator>glasnost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very superficial analysis, James. The presence of oil doesn&#039;t demand that we appease a given state, it just demands that we try to control them. That can be done through tight, friendly relationships - or through militant confrontation and threats.

The real comparison is comparing Kuwait, SA, Iran, Iraq and our levels of intervention to ... Africa.

While we haven&#039;t invaded Venezuela, there&#039;s a reason why it gets the kind of attention it gets in the media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very superficial analysis, James. The presence of oil doesn't demand that we appease a given state, it just demands that we try to control them. That can be done through tight, friendly relationships - or through militant confrontation and threats.</p>
<p>The real comparison is comparing Kuwait, SA, Iran, Iraq and our levels of intervention to ... Africa.</p>
<p>While we haven't invaded Venezuela, there's a reason why it gets the kind of attention it gets in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251707</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, because America is all about making people leave who don&#039;t agree with us or make us uncomfortable in any way with the points they bring up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, because America is all about making people leave who don't agree with us or make us uncomfortable in any way with the points they bring up.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251517</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anjin-san &amp; Tlaloc:

why don&#039;t you guys go back to whatever socialist/communist country you guys came from and leave us real Americans alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anjin-san &amp; Tlaloc:</p>
<p>why don't you guys go back to whatever socialist/communist country you guys came from and leave us real Americans alone?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251360</link>
		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If so, it&#039;s a bipartisan dereliction. It&#039;s not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? Are you privy to the discussions of Cheney&#039;s secret meetings with the oil companies in the White House? You know, the ones they had before they started raking in the record profits they are now making...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If so, it's a bipartisan dereliction. It's not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.
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<p>Really? Are you privy to the discussions of Cheney's secret meetings with the oil companies in the White House? You know, the ones they had before they started raking in the record profits they are now making...</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, money isn&#039;t the limiting factor with old oil fields.  Any barrel of oil it takes more than a barrel of oil to extract isn&#039;t going to make anyone any money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, money isn't the limiting factor with old oil fields.  Any barrel of oil it takes more than a barrel of oil to extract isn't going to make anyone any money.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251321</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At best only half of any oil field right now has been extracted. As the price continues to climb then more &quot;old oil fields&quot; will continue to be harvested.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, but since the infrastructure was built upon an assumption of cheap energy it can only flew with the oil prices so much before it breaks.  It&#039;s not like if oil is 5x as expensive you&#039;ll just pay more at the pump.  The entire economy would crash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At best only half of any oil field right now has been extracted. As the price continues to climb then more "old oil fields" will continue to be harvested.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, but since the infrastructure was built upon an assumption of cheap energy it can only flew with the oil prices so much before it breaks.  It's not like if oil is 5x as expensive you'll just pay more at the pump.  The entire economy would crash.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal, the oil companies in a market with rising prices and steady demand basically can&#039;t lose money.  They book the raw prices of product as say $20/barrel and charge at say $80/barrel.  Watch over next 2 or 3 quarters and record profits will moderate as low cost oil is worked thru supply chain.  And its the countries that control the price by controlling supply.  They have NO incentive to reduce prices.  

Only thing that will move US towards more energy independence is exactly what voters hate - higher prices!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal, the oil companies in a market with rising prices and steady demand basically can't lose money.  They book the raw prices of product as say $20/barrel and charge at say $80/barrel.  Watch over next 2 or 3 quarters and record profits will moderate as low cost oil is worked thru supply chain.  And its the countries that control the price by controlling supply.  They have NO incentive to reduce prices.  </p>
<p>Only thing that will move US towards more energy independence is exactly what voters hate - higher prices!</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/war_for_oil_/comment-page-1/#comment-251269</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing here that seems a bit out of whack.  Note that the highest profits of any corporation in history happened during the highest oil prices - speaking of course of the record breaking years big oil corporations have had.

So it&#039;s not clearly the case that the &quot;oil barons&quot;, as James puts it, want the price of oil to go &lt;em&gt;down&lt;/em&gt;.

It&#039;s a bit more complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing here that seems a bit out of whack.  Note that the highest profits of any corporation in history happened during the highest oil prices - speaking of course of the record breaking years big oil corporations have had.</p>
<p>So it's not clearly the case that the "oil barons", as James puts it, want the price of oil to go <em>down</em>.</p>
<p>It's a bit more complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At best only half of any oil field right now has been extracted.  As the price continues to climb then more &quot;old oil fields&quot; will continue to be harvested.  

And most oil production is now concentrated in control of a few governments (Saudi&#039;s, Iran, Iraq, Mexico, etc).  That doesn&#039;t bode well for managing, especially where a country such as Mexico has a very large young population.  Domestic political agendas, rather than economics, will drive extraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best only half of any oil field right now has been extracted.  As the price continues to climb then more "old oil fields" will continue to be harvested.  </p>
<p>And most oil production is now concentrated in control of a few governments (Saudi's, Iran, Iraq, Mexico, etc).  That doesn't bode well for managing, especially where a country such as Mexico has a very large young population.  Domestic political agendas, rather than economics, will drive extraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;this map is horribly dated. Mexico has found huge reserves and is tapping into it now. In addition, I think Brazil has hit on a huge reserve as well rumored to rival anything Saudi Arabia has.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oil companies are pretty notorious for falsifying how large their reserves are.  That having been said here are the official numbers as of 2006:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;

Saudi Arabia is #1.  Mexico is #14 and Brazil is #16.  The US is #11 by the way.  The scary thing is that we are not an oil poor country by any stretch of the imagination.  We are oil rich.  but we are so insanely oil gluttonous that it doesn&#039;t matter.

Maybe someday somebody will stop and realize that that isn&#039;t such a great plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>this map is horribly dated. Mexico has found huge reserves and is tapping into it now. In addition, I think Brazil has hit on a huge reserve as well rumored to rival anything Saudi Arabia has.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oil companies are pretty notorious for falsifying how large their reserves are.  That having been said here are the official numbers as of 2006:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html" rel="nofollow">here </a></p>
<p>Saudi Arabia is #1.  Mexico is #14 and Brazil is #16.  The US is #11 by the way.  The scary thing is that we are not an oil poor country by any stretch of the imagination.  We are oil rich.  but we are so insanely oil gluttonous that it doesn't matter.</p>
<p>Maybe someday somebody will stop and realize that that isn't such a great plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Carter tried to get the ball rolling on alternative energy sources.  Reagan put an immediate halt to that.  Solar panels on the white house and all that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It's not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.</p></blockquote>
<p>Carter tried to get the ball rolling on alternative energy sources.  Reagan put an immediate halt to that.  Solar panels on the white house and all that...</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Its too bad that the President is far more committed to oil company profits than to freeing America from dependence on middle eastern oil&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If so, it&#039;s a bipartisan dereliction. It&#039;s not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Its too bad that the President is far more committed to oil company profits than to freeing America from dependence on middle eastern oil</p></blockquote>
<p>If so, it's a bipartisan dereliction. It's not as if Clinton or Carter or LBJ or JFK or Truman did anything different.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its too bad that the President is far more committed to oil company profits than to freeing America from dependence on middle eastern oil. It sure would be nice to tell tell the oil sheiks to kiss our a___</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its too bad that the President is far more committed to oil company profits than to freeing America from dependence on middle eastern oil. It sure would be nice to tell tell the oil sheiks to kiss our a___</p>
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