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	<title>Comments on: Ward Churchill Wins, Awarded $1</title>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/ward_churchill_wins_awarded_1/comment-page-1/#comment-1007790</link>
		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 18:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;James writes, with a naivete I had thought gone out of the world:

    &lt;blockquote&gt;Academics are, after all, the university’s raison d&#039;etre whereas sports are a side business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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I had the same reaction.  Take a look at any major university budget and it become very clear what the priorities are...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>James writes, with a naivete I had thought gone out of the world:</p>
<blockquote><p>Academics are, after all, the university&rsquo;s raison d'etre whereas sports are a side business.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I had the same reaction.  Take a look at any major university budget and it become very clear what the priorities are...</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah,
Sometimes, I guess it is OK for kids to be smitten and taken by authoritarian figures, no matter what they preach. Right from wrong, good from evil, and how to recognize fools should be taught to kids at home before these lecherous bastards get their hands on them. 

But, it is unforgivable, and should be illegal for these supposedly educated, responsible, and people you pay to educate your kids fail see no harm in people like Churchill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,<br />
Sometimes, I guess it is OK for kids to be smitten and taken by authoritarian figures, no matter what they preach. Right from wrong, good from evil, and how to recognize fools should be taught to kids at home before these lecherous bastards get their hands on them. </p>
<p>But, it is unforgivable, and should be illegal for these supposedly educated, responsible, and people you pay to educate your kids fail see no harm in people like Churchill.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... &quot;Walking Eagle has returned to his perch?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So... "Walking Eagle has returned to his perch?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eneils point out the true scandal.  How on earth did Churchill&#039;s colleagues justify his scholarship, position as department head, or even being allowed to teach?  The other professors failed in their responsibility to the paying students.  Was it just professional courtesy to ignore him?  Was it fear of being subject to a high standard themselves?  Were they fooled?

The guy was a fake, a fraud and I bet most students could see it a mile away but the faculty pays no mind to students.  The administration would pay no mind to students.  Like Eneils this is making me rethink how much involvement I will have in my son&#039;s college education.  Turning him over to a profession that cannot police itself seems foolish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eneils point out the true scandal.  How on earth did Churchill's colleagues justify his scholarship, position as department head, or even being allowed to teach?  The other professors failed in their responsibility to the paying students.  Was it just professional courtesy to ignore him?  Was it fear of being subject to a high standard themselves?  Were they fooled?</p>
<p>The guy was a fake, a fraud and I bet most students could see it a mile away but the faculty pays no mind to students.  The administration would pay no mind to students.  Like Eneils this is making me rethink how much involvement I will have in my son's college education.  Turning him over to a profession that cannot police itself seems foolish.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He was awarded a dollar in damages, presumably because his actual plagiarism mitigated the fact that it wasn’t the reason for his termination.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He was overly-compensated for his damages; if I had a dollar for every time I said or did something that violated common sense, I would be a rich person.
Churchill is a certifiable nut case, existing in the world of modern-day academia. Think about when this person could exist outside the world of modern-day high-level scholars and a tax-payer funded educational environment.
Wanna send off your kids to this fool&#039;s rantings and ravings.
No, I had rather my kid be a man, not fall for the idiocy of failed ideas, moral confusion, and separate themselves from the overly stimulating emotional and foolish ideas  of those who requires an overly-stimulating emotion and very little common sense.
Personal rectitude, no matter the age will overcome silliness, dishonesty, and the urge to believe because what a mass of your young contemporaries and his fellow professional educators believe. The man should have been recognized as a fool by his fellow professional and by his students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He was awarded a dollar in damages, presumably because his actual plagiarism mitigated the fact that it wasn&rsquo;t the reason for his termination.</p></blockquote>
<p>He was overly-compensated for his damages; if I had a dollar for every time I said or did something that violated common sense, I would be a rich person.<br />
Churchill is a certifiable nut case, existing in the world of modern-day academia. Think about when this person could exist outside the world of modern-day high-level scholars and a tax-payer funded educational environment.<br />
Wanna send off your kids to this fool's rantings and ravings.<br />
No, I had rather my kid be a man, not fall for the idiocy of failed ideas, moral confusion, and separate themselves from the overly stimulating emotional and foolish ideas  of those who requires an overly-stimulating emotion and very little common sense.<br />
Personal rectitude, no matter the age will overcome silliness, dishonesty, and the urge to believe because what a mass of your young contemporaries and his fellow professional educators believe. The man should have been recognized as a fool by his fellow professional and by his students.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 18:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James writes, with a naivete I had thought gone out of the world:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Academics are, after all, the university’s raison d&#039;etre whereas sports are a side business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James writes, with a naivete I had thought gone out of the world:</p>
<blockquote><p>Academics are, after all, the university&rsquo;s raison d'etre whereas sports are a side business.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: An Interested Party</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Interested Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Someone should just kick his ass.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ohhhh...tough guy!  Are you offering to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Someone should just kick his ass.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ohhhh...tough guy!  Are you offering to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following background from the NYTimes suggests to me that the jury thought there was a wide range of damages to be considered:

&lt;blockquote&gt;First, they [the jury] asked whether it was possible to award no damages. A few minutes later, they asked whether, if all but one jury member could agree on a dollar amount, that person could be replaced by another juror. (The answer was no.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Possible compromise verdict, with some thinking Churchill didn&#039;t prove his case, other&#039;s thinking he deserved a lot of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following background from the NYTimes suggests to me that the jury thought there was a wide range of damages to be considered:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, they [the jury] asked whether it was possible to award no damages. A few minutes later, they asked whether, if all but one jury member could agree on a dollar amount, that person could be replaced by another juror. (The answer was no.)</p></blockquote>
<p>Possible compromise verdict, with some thinking Churchill didn't prove his case, other's thinking he deserved a lot of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zelsdorf Ragshaft III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was or is he guilty of plagiarism or not.  If so and he was fired because the University has a policy to not allow that act.  What is the problem?  Al Capone was busted for tax evasion, not everything else he was guilty of.  He was still off the streets for a while because of it.  Someone should just kick his ass.  Too bad dueling is not lawful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was or is he guilty of plagiarism or not.  If so and he was fired because the University has a policy to not allow that act.  What is the problem?  Al Capone was busted for tax evasion, not everything else he was guilty of.  He was still off the streets for a while because of it.  Someone should just kick his ass.  Too bad dueling is not lawful.</p>
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		<title>By: PD Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>PD Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Churchill said he was satisfied with a $1 judgment and said his case was not about money.  “Reinstatement, of course,” he said. “I did not ask for money. I asked for justice.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is that true?  Did his lawyer ask the jury for money?  Lawyers have asked for $1 when it&#039;s the principle of the matter.  How come I don&#039;t believe that happened here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Churchill said he was satisfied with a $1 judgment and said his case was not about money.  “Reinstatement, of course,” he said. “I did not ask for money. I asked for justice.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Is that true?  Did his lawyer ask the jury for money?  Lawyers have asked for $1 when it's the principle of the matter.  How come I don't believe that happened here?</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Donegal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Donegal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 16:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I find it a non sequitur, however, that a University has no right to be upset with professorial misconduct if it houses a big time athletic program with a history of NCAA violations.  Academics are, after all, the university’s raison detre whereas sports are a side business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?  If push came to shove, which program would the University of Alabama jettison first--the football team or the history department?  How about Kentucky--basketball or philosophy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I find it a non sequitur, however, that a University has no right to be upset with professorial misconduct if it houses a big time athletic program with a history of NCAA violations.  Academics are, after all, the university&rsquo;s raison detre whereas sports are a side business.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  If push came to shove, which program would the University of Alabama jettison first--the football team or the history department?  How about Kentucky--basketball or philosophy?</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great victory for politicians and used car salesmen everywhere,pushing them up a notch on the trust scale. They can now continue to look down with smug disdain on job of professor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great victory for politicians and used car salesmen everywhere,pushing them up a notch on the trust scale. They can now continue to look down with smug disdain on job of professor!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;randomly brutalize&quot;?  I thought Churchill was tough guy posing with a gun?  Isn&#039;t he well over six feet tall?  Firing him for all the reasons he was fired was brutalizing him?  If so he&#039;s a bigger wimp than thought he was.

I can guarantee he randomly brutalized students that had to sit through his B.S. classes.  Did they get the jury from the Womens Studies department?

It&#039;s no wonder people are disgusted with academia.  Examples like this expose the soft corruption of colleges today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"randomly brutalize"?  I thought Churchill was tough guy posing with a gun?  Isn't he well over six feet tall?  Firing him for all the reasons he was fired was brutalizing him?  If so he's a bigger wimp than thought he was.</p>
<p>I can guarantee he randomly brutalized students that had to sit through his B.S. classes.  Did they get the jury from the Womens Studies department?</p>
<p>It's no wonder people are disgusted with academia.  Examples like this expose the soft corruption of colleges today.</p>
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