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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/what_americans_know_not_much/comment-page-1/#comment-120406</link>
		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 10:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Generally true except for the notable case of Stewart/Colbert viewers - who, being generally younger, should have been expected to score low - but instead scored higher than all others.&lt;/em&gt;

But these are people choosing to either watch a politics show during prime social hours or TiVoing or otherwise time shifting the shows. That makes them, almost by definition, political junkies.  Indeed, that largely explains why Rush Limbaugh listeners are so well informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Generally true except for the notable case of Stewart/Colbert viewers - who, being generally younger, should have been expected to score low - but instead scored higher than all others.</em></p>
<p>But these are people choosing to either watch a politics show during prime social hours or TiVoing or otherwise time shifting the shows. That makes them, almost by definition, political junkies.  Indeed, that largely explains why Rush Limbaugh listeners are so well informed.</p>
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		<title>By: LaurenceB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaurenceB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 02:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;My guess is that if one factors in the demographics, differences among sources goes away. NPR listeners aren’t more informed than Fox News listeners because of superior content so much as because the former draws a more affluent, educated audience.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Generally true except for the notable case of Stewart/Colbert viewers - who, being generally younger, should have been expected to score low - but instead scored higher than all others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>My guess is that if one factors in the demographics, differences among sources goes away. NPR listeners aren&rsquo;t more informed than Fox News listeners because of superior content so much as because the former draws a more affluent, educated audience.</p></blockquote>
<p>Generally true except for the notable case of Stewart/Colbert viewers - who, being generally younger, should have been expected to score low - but instead scored higher than all others.</p>
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		<title>By: what we know at infotainment rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>what we know at infotainment rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 01:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Courtesy of the Pew Research Center:  What does it all mean? Nada. But that hasn&#8217;t stopped the blogosphere from analylzing and politicizing the results, which can be roughly summarized thus: Americans are just as ignorant as ever! But some of us (guess who?) are smarter than others. Here are the headlines courtesy of Memeorandum:  …     Nico / Think Progress: SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest James Joyner / Outside The Beltway: What Americans Know: Not Much — A new Pew survey finds …  Ezra Klein: Think They&#8217;ll Report, And Let You Decide, This Poll? Carpetbagger / The Carpetbagger Report: One can learn a lot from &#8216;fake&#8217; news Laura / The Galloping Beaver: Education and knowledge. — Via Ezra, interesting results …  Daniel Larison / Eunomia: Who Knew? Bryan / Hot Air: Poll: We&#8217;re getting dumber Newsdesk / The Swamp: 24/7 news doesn&#8217;t make us any smarter RadicalRuss / Pam&#8217;s House Blend: Stewart/Colbert = Funny Truth; FOX News = Noisy Truthiness Brendan Nyhan: Ezra Klein gives Fox News a bum rap Jonathan Stein / MotherJones.com: Watch the Daily Show? You&#8217;re Smart. … Wonkette: 31% of Americans Have No Idea Who&#8217;s Running the Country Garance / theGarance.com: Who is Most Misinformed? — A new study by The Pew Research Center …  Libby Spencer / The Impolitic: 24 hour news makes no difference Old Blue / The American Street: Early to bed makes you stupid, and Fox-y [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Courtesy of the Pew Research Center:  What does it all mean? Nada. But that hasn&#8217;t stopped the blogosphere from analylzing and politicizing the results, which can be roughly summarized thus: Americans are just as ignorant as ever! But some of us (guess who?) are smarter than others. Here are the headlines courtesy of Memeorandum:  …     Nico / Think Progress: SURVEY: Daily Show/Colbert Viewers Most Knowledgable, Fox News Viewers Rank Lowest James Joyner / Outside The Beltway: What Americans Know: Not Much — A new Pew survey finds …  Ezra Klein: Think They&#8217;ll Report, And Let You Decide, This Poll? Carpetbagger / The Carpetbagger Report: One can learn a lot from &#8216;fake&#8217; news Laura / The Galloping Beaver: Education and knowledge. — Via Ezra, interesting results …  Daniel Larison / Eunomia: Who Knew? Bryan / Hot Air: Poll: We&#8217;re getting dumber Newsdesk / The Swamp: 24/7 news doesn&#8217;t make us any smarter RadicalRuss / Pam&#8217;s House Blend: Stewart/Colbert = Funny Truth; FOX News = Noisy Truthiness Brendan Nyhan: Ezra Klein gives Fox News a bum rap Jonathan Stein / MotherJones.com: Watch the Daily Show? You&#8217;re Smart. … Wonkette: 31% of Americans Have No Idea Who&#8217;s Running the Country Garance / theGarance.com: Who is Most Misinformed? — A new study by The Pew Research Center …  Libby Spencer / The Impolitic: 24 hour news makes no difference Old Blue / The American Street: Early to bed makes you stupid, and Fox-y [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MikeM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of a project I did for my &quot;Survey Methods&quot; class when I was getting my political science degree. I asked fellow students to name their elected representatives from President down to County/City Council. If I remember correctly (it&#039;s been 26 years), about 90% could name the President and 75% the Vice-President. After that it dropped precipitously, with the exception of political science majors. And this was in November of an election year. (I gave one guy credit for knowing the incoming President, even though he couldn&#039;t remember the sitting one.) So, I&#039;ve known for a long time that most people just don&#039;t know this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a project I did for my "Survey Methods" class when I was getting my political science degree. I asked fellow students to name their elected representatives from President down to County/City Council. If I remember correctly (it's been 26 years), about 90% could name the President and 75% the Vice-President. After that it dropped precipitously, with the exception of political science majors. And this was in November of an election year. (I gave one guy credit for knowing the incoming President, even though he couldn't remember the sitting one.) So, I've known for a long time that most people just don't know this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?&quot;

Because we live in a democracy - the principle of which is that the people get to choose their government, irrespective of how stupid the people may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?"</p>
<p>Because we live in a democracy - the principle of which is that the people get to choose their government, irrespective of how stupid the people may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Jay Leno has a regular feature on The Tonight Show he calls “Jay walking”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you think Jay picks the dumbest ones for broadcast? Do they interview a representative set of people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jay Leno has a regular feature on The Tonight Show he calls “Jay walking”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you think Jay picks the dumbest ones for broadcast? Do they interview a representative set of people?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Because when you get a 50% turnout you have to wonder which 50% it is:  the informed 50% or the 50% that couldn&#039;t find China on a map.

So, what&#039;s failing here?  The educational system or the political system?  I bet if you asked the same groups of people what products were being advertise by the following, they could tell you.

Dude, you&#039;re getting a XXXX
Don&#039;t leave home without it
There&#039;s always room for XXXXX
Lost another loan to XXXXXXX
Ah, the power of XXXXX
Mmmmm, Mmmmm Good
Eat fresh
Love that chicken at XXXXXX

and so on.

Or, maybe our political leaders don&#039;t really want people to be able to answer these questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?
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<p>Because when you get a 50% turnout you have to wonder which 50% it is:  the informed 50% or the 50% that couldn't find China on a map.</p>
<p>So, what's failing here?  The educational system or the political system?  I bet if you asked the same groups of people what products were being advertise by the following, they could tell you.</p>
<p>Dude, you're getting a XXXX<br />
Don't leave home without it<br />
There's always room for XXXXX<br />
Lost another loan to XXXXXXX<br />
Ah, the power of XXXXX<br />
Mmmmm, Mmmmm Good<br />
Eat fresh<br />
Love that chicken at XXXXXX</p>
<p>and so on.</p>
<p>Or, maybe our political leaders don't really want people to be able to answer these questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why exactly do we push for higher voter turnout and judge high turnout as a success?</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 18:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point on the operational definition used on &quot;discussion blogs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point on the operational definition used on "discussion blogs."</p>
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		<title>By: Tlaloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tlaloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m a bit dubious of the low scores blog readers get, though, given the surveyed demographics reported by everyone who researches that sort of thing. Political blogs draw an incredibly educated, affluent demographic. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe I missed it but I don&#039;t think they specified &lt;em&gt;political&lt;/em&gt; blogs, they say &quot;discussion blogs.&quot;  I agree that if they focused on people who read political blogs they&#039;d probably be seeing a much more aware group (since the topic is politics), but most likely someone who starts every day going to cuteoverload.com is going to answer that question as yes, they read a discussion blog frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&rsquo;m a bit dubious of the low scores blog readers get, though, given the surveyed demographics reported by everyone who researches that sort of thing. Political blogs draw an incredibly educated, affluent demographic. </p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe I missed it but I don't think they specified <em>political</em> blogs, they say "discussion blogs."  I agree that if they focused on people who read political blogs they'd probably be seeing a much more aware group (since the topic is politics), but most likely someone who starts every day going to cuteoverload.com is going to answer that question as yes, they read a discussion blog frequently.</p>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay Leno has a regular feature on &lt;i&gt;The Tonight Show&lt;/i&gt; he calls &#147;Jay walking&#148;.  In the feature he takes a microphone, walks down the street, and asks simple factual/current events questions of the people he encounters.  The level of ignorance is, while perhaps not surprising, rather disturbing, so I&#039;m not surprised by these findings.

I&#039;d be interested in knowing what &#147;political discussion blogs&#148; were sampled.  I suspect you get a somewhat different demographic from DU than OTB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay Leno has a regular feature on <i>The Tonight Show</i> he calls &#8220;Jay walking&#8221;.  In the feature he takes a microphone, walks down the street, and asks simple factual/current events questions of the people he encounters.  The level of ignorance is, while perhaps not surprising, rather disturbing, so I'm not surprised by these findings.</p>
<p>I'd be interested in knowing what &#8220;political discussion blogs&#8221; were sampled.  I suspect you get a somewhat different demographic from DU than OTB.</p>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;m a bit dubious of the low scores blog readers get, though, given the surveyed demographics reported by everyone who researches that sort of thing. Political blogs draw an incredibly educated, affluent demographic.   Share This    [IMG ]  [IMG] &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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