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	<title>Comments on: What Was Larry Craig&#8217;s Crime?</title>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/what_was_larry_craigs_crime/comment-page-1/#comment-145789</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Finger pointing and excuses begin in the VA tech probe...&lt;/strong&gt;

Let the excuses begin.&#160; The School and the Government are&#160;going to&#160;vigorously defend themselves and blame the other.&#160; I am going to deconstruct this dreck in detail.&#160; At the bottom, I will note the real solution which the panel...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Finger pointing and excuses begin in the VA tech probe...</strong></p>
<p>Let the excuses begin.  The School and the Government are going to vigorously defend themselves and blame the other.  I am going to deconstruct this dreck in detail.  At the bottom, I will note the real solution which the panel...</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Triumph
“The fact that Craig plead guilty suggests that he was acting disorderly; I would think that you could easily challenge this if you were innocent.”

That is a big assumption. Especially since the Police are usually very adept at writing reports to support their accusation. Also Craig would have to go through a public trial, which would have most likely put him on front pages. People would assume he was guilty regardless of outcome and his image would have taken a hit. 

Yes his image has taken a hit now. He had the choice then to gamble that the incident might not see the light of day by keeping it out of the courts if he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge or made sure it saw the light of day and be tarnish regardless. He gamble and he lost. 

There was also the chance that he could get a Libby type jury that was looking to stick it to a Republican regardless of the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Triumph<br />
“The fact that Craig plead guilty suggests that he was acting disorderly; I would think that you could easily challenge this if you were innocent.”</p>
<p>That is a big assumption. Especially since the Police are usually very adept at writing reports to support their accusation. Also Craig would have to go through a public trial, which would have most likely put him on front pages. People would assume he was guilty regardless of outcome and his image would have taken a hit. </p>
<p>Yes his image has taken a hit now. He had the choice then to gamble that the incident might not see the light of day by keeping it out of the courts if he pleaded guilty to a lesser charge or made sure it saw the light of day and be tarnish regardless. He gamble and he lost. </p>
<p>There was also the chance that he could get a Libby type jury that was looking to stick it to a Republican regardless of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/what_was_larry_craigs_crime/comment-page-1/#comment-145397</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WMD Phosgene from Iraq Found at United Nations...&lt;/strong&gt;

U.N. weapons inspectors who had been in Iraq discovered potentially dangerous chemical substances in their office near U.N. headquarters. One item may contain &quot;phosgene, an old generation chemical warfare agent.&quot; Fox headline: Vials of Dangerous Chem...</description>
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<p>U.N. weapons inspectors who had been in Iraq discovered potentially dangerous chemical substances in their office near U.N. headquarters. One item may contain "phosgene, an old generation chemical warfare agent." Fox headline: Vials of Dangerous Chem...</p>
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		<title>By: Shadowscope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shadowscope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Wanted&quot; Donor Has Democrats On The Run...&lt;/strong&gt;

This is like a flashback to the nineties when Clinton and Gore were in office and there were investigations going on as to where their donations were coming from. Not the Republicans are any different. They are all scurvy dogs......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>"Wanted" Donor Has Democrats On The Run...</strong></p>
<p>This is like a flashback to the nineties when Clinton and Gore were in office and there were investigations going on as to where their donations were coming from. Not the Republicans are any different. They are all scurvy dogs......</p>
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		<title>By: The World According To Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>The World According To Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CommonSenseAmerica</title>
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		<dc:creator>CommonSenseAmerica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Run Away and Change Your Name...&lt;/strong&gt;

That&#8217;s how many people evade the laws of this nation after first illegally crossing our borders.  But thankfully it didn&#8217;t work this time:
INDEPENDENCE TWP. &#8212; As second shift Flint police officers donned &#8220;mourning bands&#8221; T...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Run Away and Change Your Name...</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s how many people evade the laws of this nation after first illegally crossing our borders.  But thankfully it didn&#8217;t work this time:<br />
INDEPENDENCE TWP. &#8212; As second shift Flint police officers donned &#8220;mourning bands&#8221; T...</p>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/what_was_larry_craigs_crime/comment-page-1/#comment-145165</link>
		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More Democratic campaign donation $candal$...&lt;/strong&gt;

So why so much focus just on Democratic scandals?&#160; Because they annoy me pointing the finger at the corruption in the Republican party&#160;when their house is just as dirty. 
 
They claim to be the party of the working class and accuse the Repu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More Democratic campaign donation $candal$...</strong></p>
<p>So why so much focus just on Democratic scandals?  Because they annoy me pointing the finger at the corruption in the Republican party when their house is just as dirty. </p>
<p>They claim to be the party of the working class and accuse the Repu...</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, for pleading guilty to disorderly conduct the Republicans are throwing him out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, for pleading guilty to disorderly conduct the Republicans are throwing him out?</p>
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		<title>By: walls of the city</title>
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		<dc:creator>walls of the city</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 04:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;the substance of things...&lt;/strong&gt;

So I got bored on the way home from my car&#039;s maintenance appointment today, and as any of you probably know, bored Linoges are bad things. The thought occurred to me, thanks to a webpage that will remain nameless and......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>the substance of things...</strong></p>
<p>So I got bored on the way home from my car's maintenance appointment today, and as any of you probably know, bored Linoges are bad things. The thought occurred to me, thanks to a webpage that will remain nameless and......</p>
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		<title>By: Planck's Constant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planck's Constant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Moron Leona Helmsley leaves dog 12 million bucks...&lt;/strong&gt;

With all the suffering and misery in the world, this is how she wanted to be remembered, giving millions to a dog who would be just as happy with a $12 doggy bone....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Moron Leona Helmsley leaves dog 12 million bucks...</strong></p>
<p>With all the suffering and misery in the world, this is how she wanted to be remembered, giving millions to a dog who would be just as happy with a $12 doggy bone....</p>
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		<title>By: Triumph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triumph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That’s a good thing, since it’s apparently illegal to send this code in Minneapolis and elsewhere.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let us remember that he was charged with disorderly conduct.    

This refers to any activity that is &quot;offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy.&quot;    Additionally, the accused must have reasonable grounds to know that it will, or will tend to, alarm, anger or disturb others or provoke an assault or breach of the peace.&quot;

The officer--based on being in a site where this type of activity happens with regularity--assumes that this type of solicitation &quot;will tend to alarm, anger, or disturb others...or breach the peace.&quot;


The fact that Craig plead guilty suggests that he was acting disorderly; I would think that you could easily challenge this if you were innocent.  But remember Larry is a Big Government conservative, given his steadfast support of the expanison government  surveillance and detention powers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That&rsquo;s a good thing, since it&rsquo;s apparently illegal to send this code in Minneapolis and elsewhere.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let us remember that he was charged with disorderly conduct.    </p>
<p>This refers to any activity that is "offensive, obscene, abusive, boisterous, or noisy."    Additionally, the accused must have reasonable grounds to know that it will, or will tend to, alarm, anger or disturb others or provoke an assault or breach of the peace."</p>
<p>The officer--based on being in a site where this type of activity happens with regularity--assumes that this type of solicitation "will tend to alarm, anger, or disturb others...or breach the peace."</p>
<p>The fact that Craig plead guilty suggests that he was acting disorderly; I would think that you could easily challenge this if you were innocent.  But remember Larry is a Big Government conservative, given his steadfast support of the expanison government  surveillance and detention powers.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog @ MoreWhat.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Rodham Clinton: Public Opinions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog @ MoreWhat.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Rodham Clinton: Public Opinions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Matthews MoreWhat.com Trackposted to Right Pundits, Outside the Beltway, Perri Nelson&#8217;s Website, Committees of Correspondence, DeMediacratic Nation, Right Truth, Big [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BeldarBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeldarBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The answer to the &quot;Why was this a crime?&quot; crowd on the Craig matter...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, Dale Carpenter, Jack Shafer, and Radley Balko, among many others, all question whether Sen. Larry Craig actually committed a crime. As Balko writes, Craig didn&#039;t actually engage in the lewd behavior. Didn&#039;t get that far. A...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The answer to the "Why was this a crime?" crowd on the Craig matter...</strong></p>
<p>Ed Morrissey, James Joyner, Dale Carpenter, Jack Shafer, and Radley Balko, among many others, all question whether Sen. Larry Craig actually committed a crime. As Balko writes, Craig didn't actually engage in the lewd behavior. Didn't get that far. A...</p>
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		<title>By: Planck's Constant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Planck's Constant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Let New Orleans sink into the Ocean...&lt;/strong&gt;

For God&#039;s sake, stop contributing Katrina relief money. This only encourages these people to move back into the same sinkhole nature graciously removed them from....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Let New Orleans sink into the Ocean...</strong></p>
<p>For God's sake, stop contributing Katrina relief money. This only encourages these people to move back into the same sinkhole nature graciously removed them from....</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dogs Weblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dogs Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;John Edwards and MY SUV...&lt;/strong&gt;

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