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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/where_are_the_buses/comment-page-1/#comment-56876</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a reason my comments are not showing up here?</description>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/where_are_the_buses/comment-page-1/#comment-56694</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;1. Where do you put them all?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Where are they putting them now?

&lt;blockquote&gt;2. What do you do with the other 70,000 or so left in NOLA?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Go back and get them. Repeat as needed. Really, are you &lt;i&gt;trying&lt;/i&gt; to sound stupid?

&lt;blockquote&gt;As for class action suitsâ¦ thereâs no court to file them in, since it was destroyed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh? Every courthouse everywhere was destroyed? Louisiana has no more courts? There are no federal courts?

Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1. Where do you put them all?</p></blockquote>
<p>Where are they putting them now?</p>
<blockquote><p>2. What do you do with the other 70,000 or so left in NOLA?</p></blockquote>
<p>Go back and get them. Repeat as needed. Really, are you <i>trying</i> to sound stupid?</p>
<blockquote><p>As for class action suitsâ¦ thereâs no court to file them in, since it was destroyed.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh? Every courthouse everywhere was destroyed? Louisiana has no more courts? There are no federal courts?</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Sep 2005 01:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the President should be blamed for &lt;i&gt;everything&lt;/i&gt;. But he still has to account for his actions over the past week. Which were reprehensible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't think the President should be blamed for <i>everything</i>. But he still has to account for his actions over the past week. Which were reprehensible.</p>
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		<title>By: dw</title>
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		<dc:creator>dw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 06:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So let&#039;s say you load up all 500 buses with people, average 60 per. That&#039;s 30,000 people.

1. Where do you put them all?
2. What do you do with the other 70,000 or so left in NOLA?

As for class action suits... there&#039;s no court to file them in, since it was destroyed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let's say you load up all 500 buses with people, average 60 per. That's 30,000 people.</p>
<p>1. Where do you put them all?<br />
2. What do you do with the other 70,000 or so left in NOLA?</p>
<p>As for class action suits... there's no court to file them in, since it was destroyed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/where_are_the_buses/comment-page-1/#comment-56605</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 03:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, McGehee. Thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, McGehee. Thanks for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/where_are_the_buses/comment-page-1/#comment-56602</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 02:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGehee:

And class action suits should happen how soon? 6 days, huh?

It&#039;s...

Actually, it&#039;s not even worth debating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGehee:</p>
<p>And class action suits should happen how soon? 6 days, huh?</p>
<p>It's...</p>
<p>Actually, it's not even worth debating.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/where_are_the_buses/comment-page-1/#comment-56601</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just sittin&#039; here astonished that you would defend him. Still.

He should be put on trial, for Chrissakes. How devoted can people be?

This is not about left or right. This is about humanity. The President failed. Miserably.

You can&#039;t spin this no matter how hard you try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm just sittin' here astonished that you would defend him. Still.</p>
<p>He should be put on trial, for Chrissakes. How devoted can people be?</p>
<p>This is not about left or right. This is about humanity. The President failed. Miserably.</p>
<p>You can't spin this no matter how hard you try.</p>
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		<title>By: leelu</title>
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		<dc:creator>leelu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, Nancy,

..and how much disaster service training have *you* had??  Do you have *any* clear idea what it takes to  assess and secure a neighborhood, let alone an entire city?  Do you *really* expect the fire department to come and get Fluffy the Cat out of a tree in the middle of all this?

Requests for aid are always triggered from the lowest level - city to state, state to fed.  Incident command starts with the first person on scene - in this case, it would be the mayor, who then calls the governor, who then calls the Feds.  President Bush asked for mandatory evacuation on the 28th, *and* declared an emergency before katrina hit land. The *local* authorities, whose decision it was, ignored him.

When you two understand the concepts of assessment, security and triage, let me know.  We can have an intelligent conversation.  Otherwise, lead, follow, or shut up and get out of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, Nancy,</p>
<p>..and how much disaster service training have *you* had??  Do you have *any* clear idea what it takes to  assess and secure a neighborhood, let alone an entire city?  Do you *really* expect the fire department to come and get Fluffy the Cat out of a tree in the middle of all this?</p>
<p>Requests for aid are always triggered from the lowest level - city to state, state to fed.  Incident command starts with the first person on scene - in this case, it would be the mayor, who then calls the governor, who then calls the Feds.  President Bush asked for mandatory evacuation on the 28th, *and* declared an emergency before katrina hit land. The *local* authorities, whose decision it was, ignored him.</p>
<p>When you two understand the concepts of assessment, security and triage, let me know.  We can have an intelligent conversation.  Otherwise, lead, follow, or shut up and get out of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: leelu</title>
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		<dc:creator>leelu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, Nancy,

..and how much disaster service training have *you* had??  Do you have *any* clear ides what it takes to  assess and secure a neighborhood, let alone an entire city?  Do you *really* expect the fire department to come and get Fluffy the Cat out of a tree in the middle of all this?

Requests for aid are always triggered from the lowest level - city to state, state to fed.  And, by the way, President Bush asked for mandatory evacuation on the 28th, but the *local* authorities, whose decision it was, ignored him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, Nancy,</p>
<p>..and how much disaster service training have *you* had??  Do you have *any* clear ides what it takes to  assess and secure a neighborhood, let alone an entire city?  Do you *really* expect the fire department to come and get Fluffy the Cat out of a tree in the middle of all this?</p>
<p>Requests for aid are always triggered from the lowest level - city to state, state to fed.  And, by the way, President Bush asked for mandatory evacuation on the 28th, but the *local* authorities, whose decision it was, ignored him.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Over the past week he could have &lt;i&gt;commandered&lt;/i&gt; every bus, plane and helicopter in the South to get those people out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How silly of him to assume that the mayor of New Orleans, who actually had the authority to do that, would.

After all, Nagin&#039;s counterparts in every other part of the affected Gulf Coast did their parts. Only Nagin and the City of New Orleans failed.

Meanwhile you&#039;re attacking the President for assuming Nagin was competent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Over the past week he could have <i>commandered</i> every bus, plane and helicopter in the South to get those people out.</p></blockquote>
<p>How silly of him to assume that the mayor of New Orleans, who actually had the authority to do that, would.</p>
<p>After all, Nagin's counterparts in every other part of the affected Gulf Coast did their parts. Only Nagin and the City of New Orleans failed.</p>
<p>Meanwhile you're attacking the President for assuming Nagin was competent.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nancy, here&#039;s how class-action lawsuits work: lawyers see an opportunity. They research the facts and the law and draw up the paperwork.

And then they file the paperwork on behalf of a &lt;i&gt;class,&lt;/i&gt; the members of which usually have no idea they&#039;ve hirede a lawyer and filed a lawsuit until they get a letter in the mail from the court telling them they&#039;re going to receive a check for 89 cents, their share of the clients&#039; portion of the settlement.

Meanwhile the lawyers get a percentage of the &lt;i&gt;whole&lt;/i&gt; settlement, which can be in the millions of dollars.

Trust me, if there&#039;s money to be made and access to facts that can support the case, &quot;people who are presently trying to stay alive&quot; need not be involved at all.

At all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nancy, here's how class-action lawsuits work: lawyers see an opportunity. They research the facts and the law and draw up the paperwork.</p>
<p>And then they file the paperwork on behalf of a <i>class,</i> the members of which usually have no idea they've hirede a lawyer and filed a lawsuit until they get a letter in the mail from the court telling them they're going to receive a check for 89 cents, their share of the clients' portion of the settlement.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the lawyers get a percentage of the <i>whole</i> settlement, which can be in the millions of dollars.</p>
<p>Trust me, if there's money to be made and access to facts that can support the case, "people who are presently trying to stay alive" need not be involved at all.</p>
<p>At all.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Burden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Class action suits by people who are presently trying to stay alive? Give people a chance to get to safety, breathe, have a drink of water...

The defense of this President is astonishing.

Over the past week he could have &lt;i&gt;commandered&lt;/i&gt; every bus, plane and helicopter in the South to get those people out. We&#039;re still waiting. It is REPREHENSIBLE and now you would like to blame it on people beneath his authority? Please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Class action suits by people who are presently trying to stay alive? Give people a chance to get to safety, breathe, have a drink of water...</p>
<p>The defense of this President is astonishing.</p>
<p>Over the past week he could have <i>commandered</i> every bus, plane and helicopter in the South to get those people out. We're still waiting. It is REPREHENSIBLE and now you would like to blame it on people beneath his authority? Please.</p>
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		<title>By: HerbEly</title>
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		<dc:creator>HerbEly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Katrina: Preparedness Issues&lt;/strong&gt;

Thirteen months ago, FEMA conducted a five-day, table top exercise to test preparedness against a direct hit on New Orleans by a category three hurricane. Participants drew up action plans for dealing with the storm&#039;s aftermath in which calls for</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Katrina: Preparedness Issues</strong></p>
<p>Thirteen months ago, FEMA conducted a five-day, table top exercise to test preparedness against a direct hit on New Orleans by a category three hurricane. Participants drew up action plans for dealing with the storm's aftermath in which calls for</p>
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		<title>By: Janet White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 02:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a community of seniors who average everywhere from greatest generation to left over hippies.  We all are amazed that both the local pols and the feds don&#039;t know you do something, anything immediately in an emergency.  Without leadership, people get crazy.  NO is a classic example of ineptitude.  Did no one there ever hear of Dunkirk?  The hospital workers are to be commended, but the feds failed in a major way.  Day one should have been action, action, action.  You can always do long term planning after the fact, but immediate keeps things under control.  Bush should be impeached purely on the basis of &quot;preserve and protect&quot; his failure of oath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a community of seniors who average everywhere from greatest generation to left over hippies.  We all are amazed that both the local pols and the feds don't know you do something, anything immediately in an emergency.  Without leadership, people get crazy.  NO is a classic example of ineptitude.  Did no one there ever hear of Dunkirk?  The hospital workers are to be commended, but the feds failed in a major way.  Day one should have been action, action, action.  You can always do long term planning after the fact, but immediate keeps things under control.  Bush should be impeached purely on the basis of "preserve and protect" his failure of oath.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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