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		<title>By: A Voice</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/who_speaks_for_the_evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-70323</link>
		<dc:creator>A Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 07:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t we just all get along &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1136507338.comments.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LOL&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can't we just all get along <a href="http://www.themoderatevoice.com/posts/1136507338.comments.shtml" rel="nofollow">LOL</a></p>
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		<title>By: RJN</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/who_speaks_for_the_evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-70316</link>
		<dc:creator>RJN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 02:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Joyner: Do you know that Regent University teaches tripe? Your remarks seem far more egregious than Pat Robertson&#039;s.

I notice that you did not give a link to the actual words of Mr. Robertson, but to other people&#039;s cut and paste versions of what he said. Robertson was speculating; he was assuming that God has some power, and might use it on occasion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Joyner: Do you know that Regent University teaches tripe? Your remarks seem far more egregious than Pat Robertson's.</p>
<p>I notice that you did not give a link to the actual words of Mr. Robertson, but to other people's cut and paste versions of what he said. Robertson was speculating; he was assuming that God has some power, and might use it on occasion.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/who_speaks_for_the_evangelicals/comment-page-1/#comment-70302</link>
		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think they mostly get called on, because they can be counted on to give some outrageous quote that can be beat upon for weeks, so that one story can generate a larger one.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Robertson has that rep because he spouts outrageous quotes on his own, even without prompting. He perfectly illustrates the old saying about remaining silent and being thought a fool, as opposed to speaking and removing all doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think they mostly get called on, because they can be counted on to give some outrageous quote that can be beat upon for weeks, so that one story can generate a larger one.</p></blockquote>
<p>Robertson has that rep because he spouts outrageous quotes on his own, even without prompting. He perfectly illustrates the old saying about remaining silent and being thought a fool, as opposed to speaking and removing all doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jan 2006 00:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Christian, and would probably be considered &quot;evangelical&quot; by todays standards.  I can&#039;t say that I have ever liked Robertson or Falwell and I can&#039;t say that they either speak for me or represent me.

I also don&#039;t know too many people who watch or listen to Robertson.  

I think they mostly get called on, because they can be counted on to give some outrageous quote that can be beat upon for weeks, so that one story can generate a larger one.

I also don&#039;t think either man has much political power anymore.  The evangelical with political clout is probably Dobson (who at times isn&#039;t much better in the outrageous comments department)-he doesn&#039;t seem as willing to grant the interviews though (which should probably be a number 3, since it is always possible a producer has called one of those other guys listed, but that guy chose to take a pass on an interview).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Christian, and would probably be considered "evangelical" by todays standards.  I can't say that I have ever liked Robertson or Falwell and I can't say that they either speak for me or represent me.</p>
<p>I also don't know too many people who watch or listen to Robertson.  </p>
<p>I think they mostly get called on, because they can be counted on to give some outrageous quote that can be beat upon for weeks, so that one story can generate a larger one.</p>
<p>I also don't think either man has much political power anymore.  The evangelical with political clout is probably Dobson (who at times isn't much better in the outrageous comments department)-he doesn't seem as willing to grant the interviews though (which should probably be a number 3, since it is always possible a producer has called one of those other guys listed, but that guy chose to take a pass on an interview).</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cud you &quot;stomach&quot; my last comment? ruminate on it for a while,would some grass help?hope this doesn&#039;t get &quot;pasture&quot; humor tolerance.i could keep this up &#039;til [you guessed it]THE COWS COME HOME! sorry ,i&#039;ll stop now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cud you "stomach" my last comment? ruminate on it for a while,would some grass help?hope this doesn't get "pasture" humor tolerance.i could keep this up 'til [you guessed it]THE COWS COME HOME! sorry ,i'll stop now</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james, i think a &quot;BS&quot; degree is somewhat &quot;downstream&quot; of the tripe[lol],don&#039;t you?anyway isn&#039;t &quot;MS&quot; more of the same? and &quot;PHD&quot; piled higher and deeper?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james, i think a "BS" degree is somewhat "downstream" of the tripe[lol],don't you?anyway isn't "MS" more of the same? and "PHD" piled higher and deeper?</p>
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		<title>By: floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorta&#039; like blogging, if you don&#039;t say something outrageous, nobody pays any attention[lol] i&#039;m a christian, and the few nationally known figures that i would [maybe] allow to speak for me,are ignored by the media &quot;religiously&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorta' like blogging, if you don't say something outrageous, nobody pays any attention[lol] i'm a christian, and the few nationally known figures that i would [maybe] allow to speak for me,are ignored by the media "religiously".</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True on both counts, I guess.  

I&#039;d view someone with a Regent or Liberty degree with incredible skepticism, I&#039;m afraid. Even if they don&#039;t agree--and why go there, then?  I understand going to Harvard if you&#039;re a conservative but not those schools if you&#039;re sane--their &quot;education&quot; has been mostly tripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True on both counts, I guess.  </p>
<p>I'd view someone with a Regent or Liberty degree with incredible skepticism, I'm afraid. Even if they don't agree--and why go there, then?  I understand going to Harvard if you're a conservative but not those schools if you're sane--their "education" has been mostly tripe.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yep, good point. Of course, Iâd guess most people with hiring authority know what Regent is and discount it accordingly.&lt;/em&gt;

But only in secular institutions. In Christian colleges and universities, sometimes a degree from Regent is seen as a plus.

OTOH, I wouldn&#039;t suggest that all of Regent&#039;s faculty and students agree with Robertson&#039;s views, any more than Harvard&#039;s agree with Sumner&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yep, good point. Of course, Iâd guess most people with hiring authority know what Regent is and discount it accordingly.</em></p>
<p>But only in secular institutions. In Christian colleges and universities, sometimes a degree from Regent is seen as a plus.</p>
<p>OTOH, I wouldn't suggest that all of Regent's faculty and students agree with Robertson's views, any more than Harvard's agree with Sumner's.</p>
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		<title>By: John Raynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Raynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 19:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a life-long conservative protestant Christian, and I want absolutely, positively nothing to do with Pat Robertson.  I feel he&#039;s a grotesque embarrassment to Christianity.

When Robertson is making these types of statements, he (usually, I believe) is claiming to speak prophetically, that is, as a direct oracle of God.  (It&#039;s hard to tell when he&#039;s claiming the prophetic mantle, and when he&#039;s just spouting off his own version of political analysis, and frankly, most of us don&#039;t care.)  

It should be noted that only a minority of Christians (mostly Pentecostals) accept that there are such prophets alive in this time to begin with.  And of that minority that do, only a minority of them would accept that Robertson qualifies as a prophet.  He fails the simple Biblical prophetic test in flames.

Another thing that I&#039;m starting to wonder: Robertson is 75 years old.  And his outrageous off-the-cuff remarks seem to be getting more frequent and more bizarre all the time.  Is there any possibility that he&#039;s in the early stages of Alheimer&#039;s or general dementia?  I think that people need to start asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm a life-long conservative protestant Christian, and I want absolutely, positively nothing to do with Pat Robertson.  I feel he's a grotesque embarrassment to Christianity.</p>
<p>When Robertson is making these types of statements, he (usually, I believe) is claiming to speak prophetically, that is, as a direct oracle of God.  (It's hard to tell when he's claiming the prophetic mantle, and when he's just spouting off his own version of political analysis, and frankly, most of us don't care.)  </p>
<p>It should be noted that only a minority of Christians (mostly Pentecostals) accept that there are such prophets alive in this time to begin with.  And of that minority that do, only a minority of them would accept that Robertson qualifies as a prophet.  He fails the simple Biblical prophetic test in flames.</p>
<p>Another thing that I'm starting to wonder: Robertson is 75 years old.  And his outrageous off-the-cuff remarks seem to be getting more frequent and more bizarre all the time.  Is there any possibility that he's in the early stages of Alheimer's or general dementia?  I think that people need to start asking.</p>
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		<title>By: James Joyner</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Joyner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, good point. Of course, I&#039;d guess most people with hiring authority know what Regent is and discount it accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, good point. Of course, I'd guess most people with hiring authority know what Regent is and discount it accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robertson is also president and chancellor of Regent University, a pretty large religious institution with a law school and doctoral programs in several disciplines, including communication.

c.f. http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/leadership.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robertson is also president and chancellor of Regent University, a pretty large religious institution with a law school and doctoral programs in several disciplines, including communication.</p>
<p>c.f. <a href="http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/leadership.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.regent.edu/general/about_us/leadership.cfm</a></p>
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