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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_bush_wont_attack_iran/comment-page-1/#comment-165748</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 02:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Repost from another thread, because it&#039;s even more appropriate here:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070923/pl_nm/usa_iran_cheney_dc_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cheney mulled Israeli strike on Iran: Newsweek&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Vice President Dick Cheney had at one point considered asking Israel to launch limited missile strikes at an Iranian nuclear site to provoke a retaliation

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    A military response by Iran could give Washington an excuse to then launch airstrikes of its own&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repost from another thread, because it's even more appropriate here:<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070923/pl_nm/usa_iran_cheney_dc_1" rel="nofollow">Cheney mulled Israeli strike on Iran: Newsweek</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Vice President Dick Cheney had at one point considered asking Israel to launch limited missile strikes at an Iranian nuclear site to provoke a retaliation</p>
<p>    [...]</p>
<p>    A military response by Iran could give Washington an excuse to then launch airstrikes of its own</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, I am talking about local and limited success by the Iranians, well before we are able to reinforce the eastern border of Iraq.  Once they had occupied a few miles into Iraq, and are able to interdict our troop positions, dumps, and supply lines with conventional artillery, we do have a problem.  

Globally, once our reinforcements come on scene, they would have had it, but the episode would cost us to drive them out of their defensive positions, and back into Iran.  Want to bet that we would pursue them and destroy them, or stop at the border?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, I am talking about local and limited success by the Iranians, well before we are able to reinforce the eastern border of Iraq.  Once they had occupied a few miles into Iraq, and are able to interdict our troop positions, dumps, and supply lines with conventional artillery, we do have a problem.  </p>
<p>Globally, once our reinforcements come on scene, they would have had it, but the episode would cost us to drive them out of their defensive positions, and back into Iran.  Want to bet that we would pursue them and destroy them, or stop at the border?</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard similar arguments before U.S. went into Iraq. In the end the U.S. military would wipe out Iran’s military with little difficultie. The problem would be if we wanted to occupy Iran with its difficult terrain. That would be difficult but then again we wouldn’t really need to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard similar arguments before U.S. went into Iraq. In the end the U.S. military would wipe out Iran&rsquo;s military with little difficultie. The problem would be if we wanted to occupy Iran with its difficult terrain. That would be difficult but then again we wouldn&rsquo;t really need to.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_bush_wont_attack_iran/comment-page-1/#comment-162152</link>
		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It goes like this, markm, the reaction from our air campaign by Iran would take a number of directions: 1) a move on the Kurds in the North and the oil fields there; 2) a move on Basra and the Eastern oil fields of Iraq; and 3) attacks worldwide on American assets, including inside Iraq. Our troops now in Iraq would immediately face serious problems of logistics via Basra and southern ports, defense of the Kurds, and retaking the oil fields both North and South, while maintaining a semblance of the surge strategy elsewhere. One hopes that our air power would be effective enough to stop these thrusts, but if the Iranians close rapidly on our thin positions, we just might not be able to hit them without losing our own troops or Iraqi civilians, both of which are no-nos. Then too, it is not clear to me that the Iraqi army would support us against Iran, which is, after all, a Shiite Muslim country too. There would be defections at the least.

We would need more troops in Iraq and Kuwait than are there now to be reasonably sure of the outcome after an air strike or ten, in my opinion. An air transport surge might result in building up about  twenty or thirty thousand troops over a week or two, if we had enough prepositioned arms, transport and fighting vehicles in Kuwait. That is perhaps 1 1/2 divisions, which I would suggest isn&#039;t enough to go on the offensive. I also suggest that Iran would call up their reserves, and within a week or so, they would be streaming to the border, but hopefully seriously interdicted by our air.

What if the Iranians have &lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; called up a significant force and positioned them near the border with their transport? Again, a rapid push into Iraq might succeed in putting us on the defensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It goes like this, markm, the reaction from our air campaign by Iran would take a number of directions: 1) a move on the Kurds in the North and the oil fields there; 2) a move on Basra and the Eastern oil fields of Iraq; and 3) attacks worldwide on American assets, including inside Iraq. Our troops now in Iraq would immediately face serious problems of logistics via Basra and southern ports, defense of the Kurds, and retaking the oil fields both North and South, while maintaining a semblance of the surge strategy elsewhere. One hopes that our air power would be effective enough to stop these thrusts, but if the Iranians close rapidly on our thin positions, we just might not be able to hit them without losing our own troops or Iraqi civilians, both of which are no-nos. Then too, it is not clear to me that the Iraqi army would support us against Iran, which is, after all, a Shiite Muslim country too. There would be defections at the least.</p>
<p>We would need more troops in Iraq and Kuwait than are there now to be reasonably sure of the outcome after an air strike or ten, in my opinion. An air transport surge might result in building up about  twenty or thirty thousand troops over a week or two, if we had enough prepositioned arms, transport and fighting vehicles in Kuwait. That is perhaps 1 1/2 divisions, which I would suggest isn't enough to go on the offensive. I also suggest that Iran would call up their reserves, and within a week or so, they would be streaming to the border, but hopefully seriously interdicted by our air.</p>
<p>What if the Iranians have <em>already</em> called up a significant force and positioned them near the border with their transport? Again, a rapid push into Iraq might succeed in putting us on the defensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Their ability to reach Israel would be real slim. Iraq and Turkey are inbetween Syria/Jordan on the way to Israel. Syria/Iran don&#039;t share a common border. Look up &quot;syria&quot; on your google-map.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I actually did look at a map to confirm my assertions before I posted, which is why I listed a northern route flying over &quot;Turkey &amp; Syria&quot;, as Iranian aircraft would likely skirt the Turkish border with Iraq just long enough to enter Syrian airspace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Their ability to reach Israel would be real slim. Iraq and Turkey are inbetween Syria/Jordan on the way to Israel. Syria/Iran don't share a common border. Look up "syria" on your google-map.</p></blockquote>
<p>I actually did look at a map to confirm my assertions before I posted, which is why I listed a northern route flying over "Turkey &amp; Syria", as Iranian aircraft would likely skirt the Turkish border with Iraq just long enough to enter Syrian airspace.</p>
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		<title>By: Republican National Convention Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Republican National Convention Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Michael B. Mukasey Biography...&lt;/strong&gt;

Michael Bernard Mukasey (born July 28, 1941). Mukasey attended the Ramaz School in Manhattan, graduating in 1959. His wife, Susan, was a teacher and headmistress of the lower school at Ramaz and both of their children (Marc and Jessica) attended the .....</description>
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<p>Michael Bernard Mukasey (born July 28, 1941). Mukasey attended the Ramaz School in Manhattan, graduating in 1959. His wife, Susan, was a teacher and headmistress of the lower school at Ramaz and both of their children (Marc and Jessica) attended the .....</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
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		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 10:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have not seen any reports of additional troops being sent to the area&quot;

I doubt you would. IF we are stretched so thin i&#039;d bet we&#039;d go in by air only...so if you see a couple carrier groups in that neck of the woods that&#039;s a potential indicator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I have not seen any reports of additional troops being sent to the area"</p>
<p>I doubt you would. IF we are stretched so thin i'd bet we'd go in by air only...so if you see a couple carrier groups in that neck of the woods that's a potential indicator.</p>
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		<title>By: Faultline USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faultline USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Clinton said immigration can threaten bonds of our...&lt;/strong&gt;

&quot;What do the changes mean? They can either strengthen and unite us, or they can weaken and divide us. We must decide But mark my words, unless we handle this well, immigration of this sweep and scope could threaten the bonds of our union.&quot;...</description>
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<p>"What do the changes mean? They can either strengthen and unite us, or they can weaken and divide us. We must decide But mark my words, unless we handle this well, immigration of this sweep and scope could threaten the bonds of our union."...</p>
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		<title>By: Leaning Straight Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leaning Straight Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Final Word:  OJ...&lt;/strong&gt;

They arrested him,&#160;but he made Bail.&#160;&#160; They charged him with everything but the fall of man.
 
He&#039;s not going to escape this barring some miracle, so the Goldman&#039;s will gloat. 
 
My only real question? 
 
Be honest:&#160; How man...</description>
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<p>They arrested him, but he made Bail.   They charged him with everything but the fall of man.</p>
<p>He's not going to escape this barring some miracle, so the Goldman's will gloat. </p>
<p>My only real question? </p>
<p>Be honest:  How man...</p>
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		<title>By: The World According To Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>The World According To Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Avast - There be trouble a brewin&#8217; in paradiseHurricane Dean Blog &#187; Blog Archive</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Strategy Page, Scott, lists Iran with 3500 AFV (Armored Fighting Vehicles), which includes tanks, armored personnel carriers, and heavy artillery.
Your reference appears to support my contention in spades. Iran is capable of limited but effective ground attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Strategy Page, Scott, lists Iran with 3500 AFV (Armored Fighting Vehicles), which includes tanks, armored personnel carriers, and heavy artillery.<br />
Your reference appears to support my contention in spades. Iran is capable of limited but effective ground attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: mannning</title>
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		<dc:creator>mannning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Iraqi could say whatever they want to say, Tlaloc, but it would not make any difference. The game would be far, far over their heads at that point. Fact is, we ARE foreign, and we ARE invaders. So what?  Image is not important once the balloon goes up with Iran. Winning is.

We sold the Israelis KC-10 tankers. A few of those is enough, and they will be orbiting in Iraqi airspace too. So there would be gassing up before the raid, and gassing up on the return, which is SOP.

The IAF is not going to have one-way missions.  their pilots and aircraft are too precious to them.

For the poorly informed, Iran has over 400 T-72s and 50 Centurions, plus 500 BMPs, a standing army of about 400 thousand, and a 2 million man reserve.  These are deployed in eight armored divisions, so they are not at all truck-bound infantry.  Not much against US M1A2s, but enough to overrun a lightly held position such as Basra and its surrounds, and then defend it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iraqi could say whatever they want to say, Tlaloc, but it would not make any difference. The game would be far, far over their heads at that point. Fact is, we ARE foreign, and we ARE invaders. So what?  Image is not important once the balloon goes up with Iran. Winning is.</p>
<p>We sold the Israelis KC-10 tankers. A few of those is enough, and they will be orbiting in Iraqi airspace too. So there would be gassing up before the raid, and gassing up on the return, which is SOP.</p>
<p>The IAF is not going to have one-way missions.  their pilots and aircraft are too precious to them.</p>
<p>For the poorly informed, Iran has over 400 T-72s and 50 Centurions, plus 500 BMPs, a standing army of about 400 thousand, and a 2 million man reserve.  These are deployed in eight armored divisions, so they are not at all truck-bound infantry.  Not much against US M1A2s, but enough to overrun a lightly held position such as Basra and its surrounds, and then defend it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gulf Coast Hurricane Tracker</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Avast - There be trouble a brewin&#039; in paradise...&lt;/strong&gt;

Ahoy me hardy&#039;s- the typhoon be approachin&#039; ye who lives along the Ole Gulf Coast. The land of lost treasures will be mighty stirred up over the next fortnight. Arggh - the rain be a coming from across La Floride and headin&#039; to the bounty in the lan...</description>
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<p>Ahoy me hardy's- the typhoon be approachin' ye who lives along the Ole Gulf Coast. The land of lost treasures will be mighty stirred up over the next fortnight. Arggh - the rain be a coming from across La Floride and headin' to the bounty in the lan...</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dogs Weblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Let Ahmadinejad Visit WTC Site...&lt;/strong&gt;

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