By the same token, are there any serious estimates or analyses of the numbers & demographics of Clinton voters who claim not to be voting for Obama?

Who says Hillary *wanted* to be the VP?

Well, look; it seems fairly clear to me that what's going on here is McCain's people are investing some effort in reinforcing the number of people among Clinton's supporters who will be voting for John McCain;

The question is whether this particular investment will pay off. I'm with those who think it won't, that it's too blatant, and will cause more backlash than support. Like you said, the die-hard Clinton supporter are very self-focused, and this ad didn't focus attention on them at all, but rather on Obama. If McCain had given them even the appearance of actual attention, it would have gotten him more of their support than this will.

McCain is simply driving the truck through the hole Obama created.

Given the ability of McCain's campaign so far, the hole is probably a pretty safe place to stand. He'll aim for it, sure, but I have no confidence that he and his campaign can actually hit it.

With Obama and Biden trying to out-gaffe each other that doesn't seem much of a challenge. Add to that the amount of tape we have on Biden, and this one's going to be ...ummm ... amusing.

I doubt it. The American public forgets very quickly, even if you have tape to remind them, they stop caring about it. McCain was at least smart enough to get that ad out as fast as he can, because next week nobody is going to care what Biden said about Obama last week.

That said, McCain's campaign does need to try and preempt the predictable "noun, a verb, and POW" line, since Biden is the only one who could have used it effectively. If it's not a part of his convention speech, I'll be surprised.

With Obama and Biden trying to out-gaffe each other

Umm, yea. And how are we doing with those Al Qaeda who are training in Iran?

Or are you, as I suppose, simply trying on your new cheerleaders outfit?

Once upon a time, I was pretty good at taking those off. Have not, as yet, tried one on.

BTW... Did you hear? He was a POW...

Fascinating.

The McCain campaign's big challenge is to keep the focus off of McCain by any means necessary...

With Obama and Biden trying to out-gaffe each other that doesn't seem much of a challenge. Add to that the amount of tape we have on Biden, and this one's going to be ...ummm ... amusing.

If Obama had selected Hillary, McCain would be attacking him for that right now. The McCain campaign's big challenge is to keep the focus off of McCain by any means necessary...

BTW... Did you hear? He was a POW...

triumph, speaking of silly. Did you read your own post? Just in case you truely do not understand, McCain is a Republican, Clinton seems to be a democrat. The chances Hillary could get the Republican nomination are infinitely small. But just for the sake of stupidity. Hillary would destroy Obama in the general.

Pwnnnnnnnnnned!

But then it's Zelsdorf Ragshaft III, of the ClubbedBabySeals Ragshafts.

But the idea that Clinton was somehow owed a VP offer is silly.

Dude, you are misconstruing the argument. This is a portent that McCain is likely to cede the Republican nomination to Hillary at the Minneapolis convention.

Since mcCain only got 9.5 million votes during primary season and Hillary earned 18 million, he is morally bound to drop out of the race and let Hillary run against B. Hussein in the general.

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