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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492799</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Such are the foibles of it&#039;s use!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

True &#039;nuff.</description>
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<p>True 'nuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492796</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such are the foibles of it&#039;s use! Excuse me.</description>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492755</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect your sarcasm sensors may require a recalibration, Floyd.</description>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492730</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;Racist&quot;&quot;
&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;&quot;

 NONSENSE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>""Racist""<br />
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<p> NONSENSE</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
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		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...what they&#039;re really doing is forcing the voter into the position of judging candiates soley by their abiliy to mouth empty, meaningless platitudes... and in that event, Obama wins hands down.&quot;

Racist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...what they're really doing is forcing the voter into the position of judging candiates soley by their abiliy to mouth empty, meaningless platitudes... and in that event, Obama wins hands down."</p>
<p>Racist</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492671</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Like shooting alligator luggage, Bit?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
(Snicker.)
&lt;blockquote&gt;Elections are about truth - hiding it and exposing it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


That&#039;s what this really comes down to, and why I have always and invariably chafed at the complains about politics &#039;going negative&#039;. Sorry, but bringing flaws of the candidates out into the open, sometimes by force, is what campaigns are suppsoed to be all about. A political campaign, hopefully,  is the crucible in which we expose the impurities of content of those candidates who willingly enter it so as to allow the voter an informed choice.  Anyone (Yes, including McCain)  who enters a campaign, telling us he&#039;s taking the high road and not going negative, what they&#039;re really doing is forcing the voter into the position of judging candiates soley by their abiliy to mouth empty, meaningless platitudes... and in that event,  Obama wins hands down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Like shooting alligator luggage, Bit?</p></blockquote>
<p>(Snicker.)</p>
<blockquote><p>Elections are about truth - hiding it and exposing it.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's what this really comes down to, and why I have always and invariably chafed at the complains about politics 'going negative'. Sorry, but bringing flaws of the candidates out into the open, sometimes by force, is what campaigns are suppsoed to be all about. A political campaign, hopefully,  is the crucible in which we expose the impurities of content of those candidates who willingly enter it so as to allow the voter an informed choice.  Anyone (Yes, including McCain)  who enters a campaign, telling us he's taking the high road and not going negative, what they're really doing is forcing the voter into the position of judging candiates soley by their abiliy to mouth empty, meaningless platitudes... and in that event,  Obama wins hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: davod</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492586</link>
		<dc:creator>davod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what way are the McCain ads more negative than The One&#039;s ads, other than being blasphemous,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what way are the McCain ads more negative than The One's ads, other than being blasphemous,</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are only two ways to deal with a fake messiah. You can join the crowd in their worship by not exposing the faux or you can attack the deception at hand. I&#039;m tired of the left&#039;s always attempting to censor, hiding behind, and protect their deception by using the term &quot;negative.&quot; 

I believe the Ten Commandments are placed in the negative format - but when followed, have a Positive result. 

Elections are about truth - hiding it and exposing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only two ways to deal with a fake messiah. You can join the crowd in their worship by not exposing the faux or you can attack the deception at hand. I'm tired of the left's always attempting to censor, hiding behind, and protect their deception by using the term "negative." </p>
<p>I believe the Ten Commandments are placed in the negative format - but when followed, have a Positive result. </p>
<p>Elections are about truth - hiding it and exposing it.</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
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		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now that&#039;s just downright mean.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like shooting alligator luggage, Bit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now that's just downright mean.</p></blockquote>
<p>Like shooting alligator luggage, Bit?</p>
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		<title>By: bains</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492136</link>
		<dc:creator>bains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My goodness Alex!  Just how thick are your Obama-goggles?  I know you want the man to be our next President, but does that aim require you to lose any semblance of objectivity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My goodness Alex!  Just how thick are your Obama-goggles?  I know you want the man to be our next President, but does that aim require you to lose any semblance of objectivity?</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/why_the_campaign_is_so_negative/comment-page-1/#comment-492062</link>
		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;which means he isn&#039;t able to get away with merely spouting platitudes to adoring crowds about the rivers of chocolate and children flying kites that will materialize when he&#039;s in charge.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now that&#039;s just downright mean.
Aren&#039;t you ashamed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>which means he isn't able to get away with merely spouting platitudes to adoring crowds about the rivers of chocolate and children flying kites that will materialize when he's in charge.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now that's just downright mean.<br />
Aren't you ashamed?</p>
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		<title>By: charles austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it difficult to believe that anyone spends time defending either of the campaigns.

McCain has gone more negative of late.  Coincidentally, the sheen seems to be coming off Obama a little.  I also notice that Obama is spending more time responding to the mean old man&#039;s attacks, which means he isn&#039;t able to get away with merely spouting platitudes to adoring crowds about the rivers of chocolate and children flying kites that will materialize when he&#039;s in charge.

People who complain about negative campaigning and think this is bad are frankly utterly ignorant of history and human nature.  But hey, it sells soap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it difficult to believe that anyone spends time defending either of the campaigns.</p>
<p>McCain has gone more negative of late.  Coincidentally, the sheen seems to be coming off Obama a little.  I also notice that Obama is spending more time responding to the mean old man's attacks, which means he isn't able to get away with merely spouting platitudes to adoring crowds about the rivers of chocolate and children flying kites that will materialize when he's in charge.</p>
<p>People who complain about negative campaigning and think this is bad are frankly utterly ignorant of history and human nature.  But hey, it sells soap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bithead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bithead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This campaign is far more civil than the society it hopes to represent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which is a correlary to my long-term argument that what is on the blogs is a reflection of what&#039;s already out there... that blogs are reactive. They work with what&#039;s already out there.

I suggest politics are the same way, and therefore, campaigns. This parallel would seem to apply particularly well to political blogs I suppose the quotes James puts up here to be among the more civil examples of that. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;There are about three months until the election, If only all positives are aired, what will they do with the other 12 weeks and 4 days??&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mmmmmppphhhfff. 
True; There are some issues one cannot play Pollyanna over. As an example, and at the risk of tossing this thing down a subthread, let&#039;s run a quote from Boortz, this morning:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Barack Obama is trying his darndest to link John McCain to &quot;big oil&quot; and Dick Cheney. Yesterday on the program we talked about Obama&#039;s latest McCain-Exxon ad, where he claims that John McCain has received $2 million in campaign contributions from people in the oil industry ... which is completely untrue. The actual figure is more like $1.3 or $1.4 million, but that is beside the point. What Obama failed to mention is that he himself has received well over $400,000 in campaign contributions from &quot;big oil.&quot; Nice try, BO!

Something else that Barack Obama has failed to bring up ... and that the media has failed to point out (there&#039;s a surprise) ... is that Obama voted for an energy bill in 2005 that included billions in subsidies for oil and natural gas production. Dick Cheney was credited with writing, or at least influencing, much of the bill. And yet Barack voted for it ... twice. Even more surprising is that John McCain did not vote for the bill &quot;because it included billions in unnecessary tax breaks for the oil industry.&quot;

The Obama camp says that he supported the bill because it included &quot;huge investments in renewable energy.&quot; Yeah, like the ethanol industry ... and we know how well that has gone.

Want another example of Obama&#039;s failure to tell the whole truth? He is also saying that McCain is trying to push a $4 billion tax break for the oil industry. Just what is The Chosen One talking about? That would be McCain&#039;s proposal to lower corporate income taxes. Currently the United States has the second-largest corporate income tax in the industrialized world. Our punishing tax rates are chasing businesses and capital overseas. Now if you do the math you will see that if McCain manages to get his cut in the corporate tax rate through would cut corporate taxes to oil companies by about $4 billion. So there you go .... Ignoring all of the other American businesses that would benefit, The Big BO is pushing the idea to his ignorant followers that this is really nothing more than a big break for big oil.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, granted that&#039;s pretty snarky, though I&#039;ll note that Boortz tends to be that way as a matter of reflex.  But Obama&#039;s getting caught in several bald faced lies. How &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;does&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; one present this without having the charge of &#039;going negative&#039; thown at you?

&quot;Well, he delivered these lies in a &lt;em&gt;wonderful&lt;/em&gt; speaking voice....&quot;</description>
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<p>Which is a correlary to my long-term argument that what is on the blogs is a reflection of what's already out there... that blogs are reactive. They work with what's already out there.</p>
<p>I suggest politics are the same way, and therefore, campaigns. This parallel would seem to apply particularly well to political blogs I suppose the quotes James puts up here to be among the more civil examples of that. </p>
<blockquote><p>There are about three months until the election, If only all positives are aired, what will they do with the other 12 weeks and 4 days??</p></blockquote>
<p>Mmmmmppphhhfff.<br />
True; There are some issues one cannot play Pollyanna over. As an example, and at the risk of tossing this thing down a subthread, let's run a quote from Boortz, this morning:</p>
<blockquote><p>Barack Obama is trying his darndest to link John McCain to "big oil" and Dick Cheney. Yesterday on the program we talked about Obama's latest McCain-Exxon ad, where he claims that John McCain has received $2 million in campaign contributions from people in the oil industry ... which is completely untrue. The actual figure is more like $1.3 or $1.4 million, but that is beside the point. What Obama failed to mention is that he himself has received well over $400,000 in campaign contributions from "big oil." Nice try, BO!</p>
<p>Something else that Barack Obama has failed to bring up ... and that the media has failed to point out (there's a surprise) ... is that Obama voted for an energy bill in 2005 that included billions in subsidies for oil and natural gas production. Dick Cheney was credited with writing, or at least influencing, much of the bill. And yet Barack voted for it ... twice. Even more surprising is that John McCain did not vote for the bill "because it included billions in unnecessary tax breaks for the oil industry."</p>
<p>The Obama camp says that he supported the bill because it included "huge investments in renewable energy." Yeah, like the ethanol industry ... and we know how well that has gone.</p>
<p>Want another example of Obama's failure to tell the whole truth? He is also saying that McCain is trying to push a $4 billion tax break for the oil industry. Just what is The Chosen One talking about? That would be McCain's proposal to lower corporate income taxes. Currently the United States has the second-largest corporate income tax in the industrialized world. Our punishing tax rates are chasing businesses and capital overseas. Now if you do the math you will see that if McCain manages to get his cut in the corporate tax rate through would cut corporate taxes to oil companies by about $4 billion. So there you go .... Ignoring all of the other American businesses that would benefit, The Big BO is pushing the idea to his ignorant followers that this is really nothing more than a big break for big oil.</p>
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<p>OK, granted that's pretty snarky, though I'll note that Boortz tends to be that way as a matter of reflex.  But Obama's getting caught in several bald faced lies. How <em><strong>does</strong></em> one present this without having the charge of 'going negative' thown at you?</p>
<p>"Well, he delivered these lies in a <em>wonderful</em> speaking voice...."</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This campaign is far more civil than the society it hopes to represent.

   There are about three months until the election, If only all positives are aired, what will they do with the other 12 weeks and 4 days??

   Disregarding politics, what issues ARE treated with a civil or positive approach in the media today???</description>
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<p>   There are about three months until the election, If only all positives are aired, what will they do with the other 12 weeks and 4 days??</p>
<p>   Disregarding politics, what issues ARE treated with a civil or positive approach in the media today???</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Alex is playing favorites.  McCain &quot;attacks&quot; or points out Obama&#039;s lack of experience and substance.  &quot;Obama&#039;s bad!  Obama&#039;s Bad!&quot;  come on, give us all a break.  That &quot;petty&quot; campaign is closing in.

We have complained for years about negative campaigns but are they really that bad?  I don&#039;t think so.  The world is a tough place and if candidates can&#039;t weather a negative campaign how will they weather foreign despots who are really, really mean.  I say man up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Alex is playing favorites.  McCain "attacks" or points out Obama's lack of experience and substance.  "Obama's bad!  Obama's Bad!"  come on, give us all a break.  That "petty" campaign is closing in.</p>
<p>We have complained for years about negative campaigns but are they really that bad?  I don't think so.  The world is a tough place and if candidates can't weather a negative campaign how will they weather foreign despots who are really, really mean.  I say man up.</p>
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