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		<title>By: LJD</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/wmd_terrorist_strike_in_us_simply_a_question_of_time/comment-page-1/#comment-71093</link>
		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still waiting for some one, any one, to show me how the future of our country is at stake because the Federal Government is screening communications made by foreigners?

&#039;...dismal failure on homeland security?&#039;  

I suppose it&#039;s just good luck, then.  So why not spit in the faces of the thousands of police and DHS people, your fellow Americans, putting in long hours to ensure your right to shoot your mouth off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still waiting for some one, any one, to show me how the future of our country is at stake because the Federal Government is screening communications made by foreigners?</p>
<p>'...dismal failure on homeland security?'  </p>
<p>I suppose it's just good luck, then.  So why not spit in the faces of the thousands of police and DHS people, your fellow Americans, putting in long hours to ensure your right to shoot your mouth off.</p>
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		<title>By: anjinSan</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjinSan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack,

How far back in history do you want to go? Our incursioin into Lebanon? Gulf of Tonkin? Crassius adventuring into Parthia? (Kind of reminiscient of GW in Iraq).  Look it up on Google Jack, I will wait...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack,</p>
<p>How far back in history do you want to go? Our incursioin into Lebanon? Gulf of Tonkin? Crassius adventuring into Parthia? (Kind of reminiscient of GW in Iraq).  Look it up on Google Jack, I will wait...</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Enrich

You are wrong, Anjin San is a pilot

He piles it here and piles it there. and tries to plie it everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Enrich</p>
<p>You are wrong, Anjin San is a pilot</p>
<p>He piles it here and piles it there. and tries to plie it everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Ehrlich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Ehrlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anderson, your failure to understand the term Commander in Chief shows in your post.  The President does not prosecute crimes, he is defending the country.  The constitution does not require a committee to decide defensive measures.  For the President to not use the full power of the technology we have developed would be derelict.  Anjin-san, you are no pilot.  What you should study is the number of attacks on US interests from 1992 to 2000 and those after 9/11.  Notice anything?  History did not start with the election of George Bush as President.  There are idiots out there that forget that for any action, or lack there of, there is a reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anderson, your failure to understand the term Commander in Chief shows in your post.  The President does not prosecute crimes, he is defending the country.  The constitution does not require a committee to decide defensive measures.  For the President to not use the full power of the technology we have developed would be derelict.  Anjin-san, you are no pilot.  What you should study is the number of attacks on US interests from 1992 to 2000 and those after 9/11.  Notice anything?  History did not start with the election of George Bush as President.  There are idiots out there that forget that for any action, or lack there of, there is a reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well we are on the subject of possible future attacks against our country, how  about a discussion of the administration&#039;s dismal failure on homeland security?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well we are on the subject of possible future attacks against our country, how  about a discussion of the administration's dismal failure on homeland security?</p>
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		<title>By: anjin-san</title>
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		<dc:creator>anjin-san</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really think terrorists are saying things like &quot;the anthrax has arrived, we are ready to strike&quot; on open lines?  My guess is that they are sneaky enough to use pretty sophisticated codes to avoid &quot;data mining&quot;.

As for data mining, or wiretapping or whatever you want to call it, I think most people object to the effort to bypass FISA. The WOT may well last for decades as did the cold war. I simply don&#039;t trust our leaders (of either party) with a blank check to do anything they wish in the name of fighting the war. If we are no longer a nation of laws, then we have already lost in a very meaningful way.

As for hysterical shrilling like &quot;You probably donât even think there IS a threat&quot;, well it would probably get laughed out of a middle school debate club...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really think terrorists are saying things like "the anthrax has arrived, we are ready to strike" on open lines?  My guess is that they are sneaky enough to use pretty sophisticated codes to avoid "data mining".</p>
<p>As for data mining, or wiretapping or whatever you want to call it, I think most people object to the effort to bypass FISA. The WOT may well last for decades as did the cold war. I simply don't trust our leaders (of either party) with a blank check to do anything they wish in the name of fighting the war. If we are no longer a nation of laws, then we have already lost in a very meaningful way.</p>
<p>As for hysterical shrilling like "You probably donât even think there IS a threat", well it would probably get laughed out of a middle school debate club...</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the value of these pronouncements is unclear...

Perhaps the value, and more to the point, the timing, of these pronouncements is to drum up support for Bush&#039;s spying program?

Personally, I want all restraints removed from this program so that we can catch the SOB&#039;s that much faster. There is no way that you can fight a war while having to constantly refer to a rule book to see if it&#039;s okay to do something. Whatever happened to the saying &quot;All is fair in love and war&quot;?

But you can bet the farm that some liberal weenie is going to demean Crumpton&#039;s comments as nothing more than scare tactics by the Bush Administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...the value of these pronouncements is unclear...</p>
<p>Perhaps the value, and more to the point, the timing, of these pronouncements is to drum up support for Bush's spying program?</p>
<p>Personally, I want all restraints removed from this program so that we can catch the SOB's that much faster. There is no way that you can fight a war while having to constantly refer to a rule book to see if it's okay to do something. Whatever happened to the saying "All is fair in love and war"?</p>
<p>But you can bet the farm that some liberal weenie is going to demean Crumpton's comments as nothing more than scare tactics by the Bush Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LID:

Now, don&#039;t argue with Anderson. Everyone as well as himself knows that he is the authorty and last word on the law. If he says that Bush broke the law, then thats it. If you don&#039;t think Anderson knows more than the Attorny General, The Supreme Court and even knows more than what the Constitution says, Then, just ask him.

Amderson is the God among us and knows all. 

He doesn&#039;t say &quot;Oh My God&quot;, he says &quot;Oh My Me&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LID:</p>
<p>Now, don't argue with Anderson. Everyone as well as himself knows that he is the authorty and last word on the law. If he says that Bush broke the law, then thats it. If you don't think Anderson knows more than the Attorny General, The Supreme Court and even knows more than what the Constitution says, Then, just ask him.</p>
<p>Amderson is the God among us and knows all. </p>
<p>He doesn't say "Oh My God", he says "Oh My Me"</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...the government should take the stance that failure is not an option. &quot;

IIRC, the administration&#039;s &#039;strategy&#039; for Iraq says that specifically.  This doesn&#039;t prevent failure, and probably helps failure.  If a pilot says &#039;crashing ain&#039;t an option&#039;, while conducting rigorous pre-flight inspections and preparations, I&#039;d be reassured.  If the pilot says that while screwing up/preventing such inspections and preparations, I&#039;d be worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"...the government should take the stance that failure is not an option. "</p>
<p>IIRC, the administration's 'strategy' for Iraq says that specifically.  This doesn't prevent failure, and probably helps failure.  If a pilot says 'crashing ain't an option', while conducting rigorous pre-flight inspections and preparations, I'd be reassured.  If the pilot says that while screwing up/preventing such inspections and preparations, I'd be worried.</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My intent was not to open a debate unrelated to the original post, as it seems you have taken this tangent somewhere distant...
To briefly address your question, I would have to say it all depends on your interpretation of the law, and when or how you think the President violated it.  I would say that is yet TBD.
You illustrate my point perfectly though.  The lawyers will have us all killed-  Tying the hands of our law enforcement and DHS officials while debating the procedures used to fight the GWOT, distracting from the hunt for the enemy.
The $64k question is, do you know what it&#039;s like to die from exposure to a nerve agent? Anthrax?
It is only a matter of time...  I would think this would have even the ACLU lawyers seriously considering the harm done to our rights.  Amazingly (or maybe not so), you have failed to demonstrate it, maintaining your pre-9/11 mentality.  You probably don&#039;t even think there IS a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My intent was not to open a debate unrelated to the original post, as it seems you have taken this tangent somewhere distant...<br />
To briefly address your question, I would have to say it all depends on your interpretation of the law, and when or how you think the President violated it.  I would say that is yet TBD.<br />
You illustrate my point perfectly though.  The lawyers will have us all killed-  Tying the hands of our law enforcement and DHS officials while debating the procedures used to fight the GWOT, distracting from the hunt for the enemy.<br />
The $64k question is, do you know what it's like to die from exposure to a nerve agent? Anthrax?<br />
It is only a matter of time...  I would think this would have even the ACLU lawyers seriously considering the harm done to our rights.  Amazingly (or maybe not so), you have failed to demonstrate it, maintaining your pre-9/11 mentality.  You probably don't even think there IS a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the answer is yes, you do have a problem with the president&#039;s obeying the law?

The $64,000 question here, the one that should have any real &quot;conservative&quot; worried, is:  given how easy it was to (1) comply with FISA and (2) get the law changed if necessary, why didn&#039;t Bush do either or both, &lt;i&gt;if it was really necessary to national security&lt;/i&gt;?

Instead, AG AG has said that the White House&#039;s best guess was that the &lt;i&gt;Republican-controlled Congress&lt;/i&gt; wouldn&#039;t vote to change the law to let Bush do what he&#039;s doing.

Why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the answer is yes, you do have a problem with the president's obeying the law?</p>
<p>The $64,000 question here, the one that should have any real "conservative" worried, is:  given how easy it was to (1) comply with FISA and (2) get the law changed if necessary, why didn't Bush do either or both, <i>if it was really necessary to national security</i>?</p>
<p>Instead, AG AG has said that the White House's best guess was that the <i>Republican-controlled Congress</i> wouldn't vote to change the law to let Bush do what he's doing.</p>
<p>Why not?</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise that you are again missing the point.  The GWOT is a unique challenge requiring creative solutions.  The terrorists ability to operate independently, swiftly, and with sensational effect requires that we respond in kind.  

Other Americans (not G.W.&#039;s SS) are working fervently to locate these terrorist SOBs.  They don&#039;t care about one individual&#039;s perverted phone conversations or e-mails.  Frankly, they simply do not have the time or resources.  So sleep well at night Anderson, no one gives a crap about your conversations.  

I suppose you can provide a long list of people, whose &#039;civil rights&#039; have been horribly violated because of this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise that you are again missing the point.  The GWOT is a unique challenge requiring creative solutions.  The terrorists ability to operate independently, swiftly, and with sensational effect requires that we respond in kind.  </p>
<p>Other Americans (not G.W.'s SS) are working fervently to locate these terrorist SOBs.  They don't care about one individual's perverted phone conversations or e-mails.  Frankly, they simply do not have the time or resources.  So sleep well at night Anderson, no one gives a crap about your conversations.  </p>
<p>I suppose you can provide a long list of people, whose 'civil rights' have been horribly violated because of this?</p>
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		<title>By: Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJD, kindly show me an example of &quot;arguing against wiretaps,&quot; as opposed to &quot;arguing against illegal and warrantless wiretaps.&quot;

I think the president should obey the law, asking that the law be changed if it impairs national security.  You have a problem with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJD, kindly show me an example of "arguing against wiretaps," as opposed to "arguing against illegal and warrantless wiretaps."</p>
<p>I think the president should obey the law, asking that the law be changed if it impairs national security.  You have a problem with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Outpost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Outpost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daily Summary&lt;/strong&gt;

NEWS: - Senate Panel&#039;s Vote on Alito Delayed Until Next Week - Three Months In, Roberts Leaves Mark on Supreme Court - Iran threatens to curb some UN atomic inspections - For Senate Democrats, a last stand on Alito -...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daily Summary</strong></p>
<p>NEWS: - Senate Panel's Vote on Alito Delayed Until Next Week - Three Months In, Roberts Leaves Mark on Supreme Court - Iran threatens to curb some UN atomic inspections - For Senate Democrats, a last stand on Alito -...</p>
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		<title>By: LJD</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any one arguing against things like wiretaps, because of the supposed &#039;erosion of civil rights&#039; knows absolutely nothing about the horrors of a chemical or biological attack.  I wonder when they&#039;ll stop helping the enemy achieve their goal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any one arguing against things like wiretaps, because of the supposed 'erosion of civil rights' knows absolutely nothing about the horrors of a chemical or biological attack.  I wonder when they'll stop helping the enemy achieve their goal.</p>
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