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		<title>By: Mike Magner</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-61470</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Magner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heywood J, I will not argue with your point that the news conference with the soldiers was staged.  

However, as a reservist that is training to go to Iraq, and as a brother of a soldier that has been there and a brother-in-law of another soldier that has been there, I can tell you that the media does not pursue interviews with soldiers that support the war or the President.

If you are a soldier and you want media coverage, forget about valor in combat.  The best way is go AWOL, denounce your country and your president or torture a prisoner and get caught.  My brother-in-law was part of an elite squad that was responsible for capturing insurgents in Tikrit during most of 2004.  During that time, Tikrit rarely made the news.  Why?  Because there were very few bombings or insurgent attacks there during that time.  

Unless its bad news, the media won&#039;t cover it.  That&#039;s why it takes a Presidential Act to allow the American people to see REAL soldiers on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heywood J, I will not argue with your point that the news conference with the soldiers was staged.  </p>
<p>However, as a reservist that is training to go to Iraq, and as a brother of a soldier that has been there and a brother-in-law of another soldier that has been there, I can tell you that the media does not pursue interviews with soldiers that support the war or the President.</p>
<p>If you are a soldier and you want media coverage, forget about valor in combat.  The best way is go AWOL, denounce your country and your president or torture a prisoner and get caught.  My brother-in-law was part of an elite squad that was responsible for capturing insurgents in Tikrit during most of 2004.  During that time, Tikrit rarely made the news.  Why?  Because there were very few bombings or insurgent attacks there during that time.  </p>
<p>Unless its bad news, the media won't cover it.  That's why it takes a Presidential Act to allow the American people to see REAL soldiers on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Heywood J.</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-60994</link>
		<dc:creator>Heywood J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Kosinski is an idiot, albeit a hot one. I&#039;d bang her brains out, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;s too late for that. She got caught trying to float one past us, and even Olbermann was making fun of that. It&#039;s a rare moment to see a professional journamalist get their comeuppance, so it was great stuff.

&lt;i&gt;None of that&lt;/i&gt; changes the fact that Bush&#039;s PR stunt with the troops was just that -- a cheap stunt. The satellite feed with Alison Barber prepping the troops makes that clear. Barber &lt;i&gt;herself&lt;/i&gt; using the word &quot;scripted&quot; also makes that clear.

Hell, just watch the videoconference itself. The pacing, the rhythm of the &quot;back-and-forth&quot;, the rote monotone rectitation of statistics. This wasn&#039;t just the usual problems with satellite delay -- this was people trying to stay on script, and it was obvious as all hell.

Do you doubt that these troops were vetted and prepped before being allowed to participate? Do you seriously think any of this was the least bit spontaneous? Do you think that a soldier that had something to say that was off-message would have been allowed to tell his side? Was this the best way to find out what&#039;s &quot;really&quot; going on, and communicate that effectively to the American people?

Does any of that have a goddamned thing to do with Michelle Kosinski, or is this just another excuse to say that Clinton and Algore did it &lt;i&gt;too&lt;/i&gt; so &lt;i&gt;there&lt;/i&gt;? At least they were using trees and canoes as props, not American soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Kosinski is an idiot, albeit a hot one. I'd bang her brains out, but I'm sure it's too late for that. She got caught trying to float one past us, and even Olbermann was making fun of that. It's a rare moment to see a professional journamalist get their comeuppance, so it was great stuff.</p>
<p><i>None of that</i> changes the fact that Bush's PR stunt with the troops was just that -- a cheap stunt. The satellite feed with Alison Barber prepping the troops makes that clear. Barber <i>herself</i> using the word "scripted" also makes that clear.</p>
<p>Hell, just watch the videoconference itself. The pacing, the rhythm of the "back-and-forth", the rote monotone rectitation of statistics. This wasn't just the usual problems with satellite delay -- this was people trying to stay on script, and it was obvious as all hell.</p>
<p>Do you doubt that these troops were vetted and prepped before being allowed to participate? Do you seriously think any of this was the least bit spontaneous? Do you think that a soldier that had something to say that was off-message would have been allowed to tell his side? Was this the best way to find out what's "really" going on, and communicate that effectively to the American people?</p>
<p>Does any of that have a goddamned thing to do with Michelle Kosinski, or is this just another excuse to say that Clinton and Algore did it <i>too</i> so <i>there</i>? At least they were using trees and canoes as props, not American soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: Averil</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-60934</link>
		<dc:creator>Averil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For cartoon characters - watch NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC - oh yes...and Disney.
For news.....fair and balanced.....yeah that&#039;s right &quot;it&#039;s FOX AND FRIENDS&quot;!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For cartoon characters - watch NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC - oh yes...and Disney.<br />
For news.....fair and balanced.....yeah that's right "it's FOX AND FRIENDS"!!!</p>
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		<title>By: the musings of Brandon Jaynes &#187; Staged News</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-60926</link>
		<dc:creator>the musings of Brandon Jaynes &#187; Staged News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hat tip: OTB [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Herb</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-60924</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is a reporter, what else would you expect?

They are so used to lying, they start to beleive it themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is a reporter, what else would you expect?</p>
<p>They are so used to lying, they start to beleive it themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: FLTV - South Florida TV blog and video page &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michelle Kosinski paddles her canoe in anckle deep water</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLTV - South Florida TV blog and video page &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Michelle Kosinski paddles her canoe in anckle deep water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 06:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NewsBusters - Up the Creek &#8230; Today Gets Caught In Stunt of its Own Outside the beltway - You are moron [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] NewsBusters - Up the Creek &#8230; Today Gets Caught In Stunt of its Own Outside the beltway - You are moron [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stewy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stewy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 05:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rove and libby are going to jail! Wee! There is a god!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rove and libby are going to jail! Wee! There is a god!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2005 05:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty swallow Michelle.  LMAO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty swallow Michelle.  LMAO!</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/you_are_a_moron/comment-page-1/#comment-60887</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s wonderful that America can find gainful employment for the illiterate, the innumerate, the mendacious, and the feebleminded.

It&#039;s regrettable that American chooses to employ them in critical professions like broadcast journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's wonderful that America can find gainful employment for the illiterate, the innumerate, the mendacious, and the feebleminded.</p>
<p>It's regrettable that American chooses to employ them in critical professions like broadcast journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: McGehee</title>
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		<dc:creator>McGehee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, let me see if I understand this: people who insist on being trusted and believed because they&#039;re &lt;b&gt;professionals&lt;/b&gt; get caught deliberately trying to mislead you.

And when we talk about it, that&#039;s &lt;i&gt;ad hominem?&lt;/i&gt;

Either the definition you&#039;ve linked is flawed, or you haven&#039;t read it yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, let me see if I understand this: people who insist on being trusted and believed because they're <b>professionals</b> get caught deliberately trying to mislead you.</p>
<p>And when we talk about it, that's <i>ad hominem?</i></p>
<p>Either the definition you've linked is flawed, or you haven't read it yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Quantum Catfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quantum Catfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Shallow Media&lt;/strong&gt;

Maybe if we moved out into deeper water we might catch . . . one fish . . . at least, maybe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Shallow Media</strong></p>
<p>Maybe if we moved out into deeper water we might catch . . . one fish . . . at least, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: johnb</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ad hominem&lt;/a&gt; rules!

keep up the good work, guys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem" rel="nofollow">Ad hominem</a> rules!</p>
<p>keep up the good work, guys!</p>
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		<title>By: Myopic Zeal :: Michelle Kosinski In Over Her Head. Or Not. :: October :: 2005</title>
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		<dc:creator>Myopic Zeal :: Michelle Kosinski In Over Her Head. Or Not. :: October :: 2005</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] She, in turn, staged a flood. (Via OTB) In an apparent effort to draw attention to herself, in yesterday&#8217;s segment she turned up in hip waders, standing thigh-deep in the flood waters. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] She, in turn, staged a flood. (Via OTB) In an apparent effort to draw attention to herself, in yesterday&#8217;s segment she turned up in hip waders, standing thigh-deep in the flood waters. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The MaryHunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>The MaryHunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another priceless Clinton/media staging: that picture of Bill and Hillary dancing oh-so-romantically on a Caribbean beach somewhere. It  was released just a few weeks before the Lewinsky Kerfuffle. There was no music while they were dancing, of course. Only the LA Times published the photo at first... then Scott MacLellan managed to draw attention to it in a WH press conference (&#039;innocently&#039;-heh) so that it would be plastered all over the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another priceless Clinton/media staging: that picture of Bill and Hillary dancing oh-so-romantically on a Caribbean beach somewhere. It  was released just a few weeks before the Lewinsky Kerfuffle. There was no music while they were dancing, of course. Only the LA Times published the photo at first... then Scott MacLellan managed to draw attention to it in a WH press conference ('innocently'-heh) so that it would be plastered all over the news.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Television reporters ... my favorite fictional journalists ...</description>
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