Comments on: You Don’t Get To Read This Kind Of Piffle Everyday

By: Robert Prather

Robert Prather — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:55:09 +0000

yetanotherjohn,

I agree. I want them to stop conflating issues and crack down on the actual crimes: child prostitution and women forced into prostitution.

By: yetanotherjohn

yetanotherjohn — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 16:42:00 +0000

Imagine an MSM that would regularly expose people crying wolf and act as an amplifier for those who are making a legitimate claim. It isn't that there are no cases of sex slavery or child prostitution in Germany (I would suspect that there are in any industrialized nation if not every nation). The question is really is the level of the problem and is the government dealing with the issue acknowledging the restraints of civil liberty. We don't live in a perfect world. While child prostitution is certainly reprehensible, we shouldn't expect Germany or any other government to exclusively apply its police resources to stopping that crime. There will always be a trade off between the resources and priorities. If I remember correctly, one of the former government's ministers was found to have helped make it easier to issue visa's for Ukrainian women to go to Germany to be prostitutes. As it became a story, it helped the German voter's to do something about it and get rid of that government.

By: floyd

floyd — Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:15:00 +0000

robert; point taken.the first sentence, second & third paragraph, in your reply sounds like the american left's typical tedious approach. i agree with your reasoning at least.

By: Robert Prather

Robert Prather — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 08:12:53 +0000

floyd, I don't think I was arguing that laws don't have a moral basis. Even in areas where prostitution -- even consensual -- is illegal there is a basis in morality. What I dislike is people being dishonest, conflating different issues and dissembling in the process. They're complaining that Germany wasn't rated negatively by our State Department based on...what? That they believe there will be some trafficking at a later time that will coincide with the World Cup. Why should our State Department "punish" Germany for something that hasn't happened yet? They're arguing completely from emotion and being dishonest about it to boot, even if it is based on morality. My morality tells me they should focus on instances of coercion and let states decide whether consensual prostitution is legal or not.

By: floyd

floyd — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 03:50:14 +0000

robert, why do we not legalize theft by deception and let the buyer beware. stop pretending that every law doesn't have a moral basis. some are twisted in logic, but every law passed is a reflection of someone's morallity being forced on the public.

By: db

db — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:53:14 +0000

I've seen a few reports here in Canada about human trafficking in Eastern Europe. Studies and reports seem to indicate that only about 10% of the girls are genuinely duped into prostitution, another 20% suspect that is what they are being hired for, but close their eyes and hope for the best that their new job is legitimate. The rest are willful participants, escaping small villages where there are no jobs, men (they left for the cities), or opportunity. It's a sad situation that needs to be addressed, but far from the cries of slavery you usually hear.

By: Patrick T. McGuire

Patrick T. McGuire — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:46:57 +0000

I grew up in Las Vegas back in the 60's and at that time, prostitution, which is legal in all but two counties of Nevada (Clark County being one of them, where Las Vegas is located) was considered a "major industry" of the state. At the same time, on a per-capita basis, Las Vegas had more schools, churches, and boy scout troops than any other city in the nation.

Go figure!

By: Robert Prather

Robert Prather — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:18:14 +0000

Indeed. They also use that 40,000 number that's been bandied about but refer to importing women, not bringing them there against their will. It's pretty sad when this kind of garbage can be passed along uncritically, and without substantive support.

By: David

David — Sat, 10 Jun 2006 08:02:53 +0000

The association of professional sports with violence against women is a time-honored feminist trope. Remember a few years ago, when NOW or some other feminist group issued a press release just before the NFL Super Bowl claiming that there is more violence against American women on Super Bowl Sunday than any other day of the year. The MSM uncritically accepted and printed this as fact. It only came out later that the charge was a bald-faced lie that was woven out of whole cloth. The perpetrators simply wanted to make a dramatic point.

I work in women's health care and I have seen violence against women first hand. It is a real and tragic phenomenon which disgusts me. Why activists would want to discredit themselves, and therefore their message by such dishonest showboating is beyond me.