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		<title>By: Wizbang</title>
		<link>http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/zero_tolerance_stupidity_1345802/comment-page-1/#comment-512693</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizbang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Knuckleheads of the Day award...&lt;/strong&gt;

Today&#039;s winners are Hilton Head Island International Baccalaureate Principal Jill McAden, Asst. Principal Kim Bratt, and Superintendent of Beaufort County Schools, Valerie Truesdale. They get the award for the following.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Knuckleheads of the Day award...</strong></p>
<p>Today's winners are Hilton Head Island International Baccalaureate Principal Jill McAden, Asst. Principal Kim Bratt, and Superintendent of Beaufort County Schools, Valerie Truesdale. They get the award for the following.......</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;.why should there be tenure for(e) teachers in elementary school?&quot;

This is not about educating your children(which I realized years ago). This about realizing that Union organizing in the democrat party politics  are all over the the democrat party and the public schools is like fleas on a mutt dog.

Yeah, the Teachers Union is a group of pesty little insects.

No intelligent child should be offered up as a sacrifice to public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>".why should there be tenure for(e) teachers in elementary school?"</p>
<p>This is not about educating your children(which I realized years ago). This about realizing that Union organizing in the democrat party politics  are all over the the democrat party and the public schools is like fleas on a mutt dog.</p>
<p>Yeah, the Teachers Union is a group of pesty little insects.</p>
<p>No intelligent child should be offered up as a sacrifice to public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals continue to support the leftists running our schools with their zero logic and common sense...why should there be tenure fore teachers in elementary school?

Unions are sabotaging the American dream and American core values.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals continue to support the leftists running our schools with their zero logic and common sense...why should there be tenure fore teachers in elementary school?</p>
<p>Unions are sabotaging the American dream and American core values.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RJ,
I understand the pain.

I put my only child through private school.
The rules were explained and enforced, but, not without the administration giving up control to blind ignorance.

Joe,
Zero logic and the lack of common sense is a chancre on the complexion of the US Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RJ,<br />
I understand the pain.</p>
<p>I put my only child through private school.<br />
The rules were explained and enforced, but, not without the administration giving up control to blind ignorance.</p>
<p>Joe,<br />
Zero logic and the lack of common sense is a chancre on the complexion of the US Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s disappointing that this sort of thing goes on, laws written with zero logic or common sense.  Maybe that&#039;s the proper term, zero logic policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's disappointing that this sort of thing goes on, laws written with zero logic or common sense.  Maybe that's the proper term, zero logic policy?</p>
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		<title>By: thunderbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>thunderbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard about a case where some student was suspended from school for refusing to turn his NRA T-shirt inside out his family sued the school over it Frankly i hope they sue these liberal doofus schools that bar students from showing their conservative beleifs and end up making the idiot pricipal wear a pink tutu to school so to humiliate the idiots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about a case where some student was suspended from school for refusing to turn his NRA T-shirt inside out his family sued the school over it Frankly i hope they sue these liberal doofus schools that bar students from showing their conservative beleifs and end up making the idiot pricipal wear a pink tutu to school so to humiliate the idiots</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, been there, done that! When he was in middle school my second oldest son took a souvenir key chain of a 2 inch long toy cowboy pistol to school. Two inches! Obviously NOT a weapon, unless he forced someone to swallow it. Still he was nearly kicked out of school for having a weapon. 

But the worst one, was my youngest son who was hauled to the principal&#039;s office for setting off a stink bomb in class. Only he didn&#039;t. He had to go to the bathroom and he had gas. If you laugh, I understand, cause we did, but we were not laughing when we had to go to the Principal&#039;s office to argue against suspending him.

I have always been amazed at how the American people can take a good thing, like protecting our children and carry it to extremes nearly every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, been there, done that! When he was in middle school my second oldest son took a souvenir key chain of a 2 inch long toy cowboy pistol to school. Two inches! Obviously NOT a weapon, unless he forced someone to swallow it. Still he was nearly kicked out of school for having a weapon. </p>
<p>But the worst one, was my youngest son who was hauled to the principal's office for setting off a stink bomb in class. Only he didn't. He had to go to the bathroom and he had gas. If you laugh, I understand, cause we did, but we were not laughing when we had to go to the Principal's office to argue against suspending him.</p>
<p>I have always been amazed at how the American people can take a good thing, like protecting our children and carry it to extremes nearly every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Eneils Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eneils Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Randy Wall&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Being this stupid needs to hurt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Staying &quot;stuck on stupid&quot; might ease your pain, but being numbed by dumb is educational establishment  bliss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Randy Wall</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Being this stupid needs to hurt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Staying "stuck on stupid" might ease your pain, but being numbed by dumb is educational establishment  bliss.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Schuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Schuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bureaucrats don&#039;t look for the best solutions; sometimes not even for good ones.  They look for administrable solutions.  Zero-tolerance polices are administrable solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bureaucrats don't look for the best solutions; sometimes not even for good ones.  They look for administrable solutions.  Zero-tolerance polices are administrable solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: JKB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, the kid doesn&#039;t need his parents to know the school officials are idiots.  They don&#039;t generally rebel at this age but they do remember a few years later when bucking authority is more common.  

Children aren&#039;t as dumb as the &quot;educators&quot; hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't worry, the kid doesn't need his parents to know the school officials are idiots.  They don't generally rebel at this age but they do remember a few years later when bucking authority is more common.  </p>
<p>Children aren't as dumb as the "educators" hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Verdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Verdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But...but midol is obviously a gateway drug.  First that for cramps, then onto smack and hooking for your next hit.  The progression is so obvious....errr or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But...but midol is obviously a gateway drug.  First that for cramps, then onto smack and hooking for your next hit.  The progression is so obvious....errr or not.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in a school and loath zero tolerance policies because they really are &quot;you can&#039;t use your common sense or your instincts&quot; policies.

I don&#039;t even understand what loon thought they would be a good idea-what was the motivation behind them?

I think the rules about medications have to be the dumbest.  I mean why should a 15 year old high school student face suspension for carrying a bottle of midol in her purse?  I can see disciplining students if they hand out medications, but suspending them for carrying them for personal use when they are OTC is just plain stupid.  There is a huge difference between a 15 year old with midol and a 15 year old snorting lines of cocain in the bathroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in a school and loath zero tolerance policies because they really are "you can't use your common sense or your instincts" policies.</p>
<p>I don't even understand what loon thought they would be a good idea-what was the motivation behind them?</p>
<p>I think the rules about medications have to be the dumbest.  I mean why should a 15 year old high school student face suspension for carrying a bottle of midol in her purse?  I can see disciplining students if they hand out medications, but suspending them for carrying them for personal use when they are OTC is just plain stupid.  There is a huge difference between a 15 year old with midol and a 15 year old snorting lines of cocain in the bathroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Plunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Plunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many public sector employees rely on strict policy adherence to avoid any personal responsibility for decisions made.  It&#039;s a lazy way to do things but educators have long had the opinion they are overworked and underpaid so why try.

Schools have long been the hideouts for &quot;blithering morons&quot; so we can expect more of this not less.  Attend a few school board meetings and be prepared to not be dazzled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many public sector employees rely on strict policy adherence to avoid any personal responsibility for decisions made.  It's a lazy way to do things but educators have long had the opinion they are overworked and underpaid so why try.</p>
<p>Schools have long been the hideouts for "blithering morons" so we can expect more of this not less.  Attend a few school board meetings and be prepared to not be dazzled.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the father of children in this age range it is infuriating, and even a bit sickening, to read these stories as I know how upsetting disrupting the situation likely is for the child.

And, as you rightly note, there are any number of objects a classroom more dangerous that the small bit of metal from a pencil sharpener.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the father of children in this age range it is infuriating, and even a bit sickening, to read these stories as I know how upsetting disrupting the situation likely is for the child.</p>
<p>And, as you rightly note, there are any number of objects a classroom more dangerous that the small bit of metal from a pencil sharpener.</p>
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