Not Exactly A “New Tone”: Democratic Congressman Compares Republicans To Nazis
Apparently, Congressman Steve Cohen of Tennessee didn’t get the memo about the new tone of civility in Washington:
In an extraordinary outburst on the House floor, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) invoked the Holocaust to attack Republicans on health care and compared rhetoric on the issue to the work of infamous Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
“They say it’s a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels,” Cohen said. “You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That’s the same kind of thing. And Congressman Cohen didn’t stop there.
“The Germans said enough about the Jews and people believed it–believed it and you have the Holocaust. We heard on this floor, government takeover of health care. Politifact said the biggest lie of 2010 was a government takeover of health care because there is no government takeover,” Cohen said.
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My first thought is that Cohen has decided to fill the shoes left by former Congressman Alan Grayson when it comes to wildly off-base, offensive, and inflammatory rhetoric on the floor of the House.
My second thought is that Politifact’s designation of that “Lie of the Year” for 2010 was nonsense, for the reasons that Billy Hallowell noted at Mediaite last year.
Regardless of one’s opinion on the Politifact designation, though, I think it’s fairly obvious that once someone starts invoking Nazis in reference to their opposition, they’ve lost the right to be taken seriously.
Clearly what Rep. Cohen is doing is using heated, partisan rhetoric to marginalize the opposition and eliminate the space for any middle ground . . .
. . . just like the NAZIs.
And how many lies does the right have to tell before we can stop taking them seriously?
There never were any “death panels”, so if you want to talk about “blood libel” there it is.
Well, sure the bickering hasn’t ended just yet. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Pfui. Comparing Republicans to Nazis: fair comment; comparing Democrats to commies: beyond the pale.
Well, I suggest at the SOTU, some Republican congressman get up, point his finger at Congressman Cohen and yell, “You lie!” That’ll show him.
It is an interesting story, isn’t it? Death panels were false, and they were destructive propaganda.
I mentioned that “slope” yesterday and I put lies and misrepresentations down at the bottom. It is one of the most evil forms of political debate.
Now, when you accurately call out lies and misrepresentations, you have to be careful about how you say it.
To properly use a terribly misused word … ironic.
BTW, if you find a liberal who is trying to seize the means of production, call him a communist, by all means.
The Nazi comparisons go way, way too far, for sure, but given the fact that Republicans have moved from “Repeal and Replace” with healthcare reform to “Repeal and Do Nothing,” the only conclusion I can draw is that Republicans are objectively pro death and suffering, especially for the working poor. I think Democrats should take a page from their book and call the repeal bill the “Killing Americans for Profit Act of 2011.”
hater, the only sense that “death panels” can be true is that you use “death panels” as a metaphoric title for something else entirely. There were to be no literal death panels.
That is misrepresentation and propaganda.
That Mediaite essay was weak, and the Politifact “Lie of the Year” is far from nonsense, Doug. Come on.
This is why I believe we need a new world war. At the point where you almost start to feel sorry for the Nazis being dragged out every 8 seconds on one pretext or another, you begin to realize that we need a new ultimate evil.
The Communists were good, but then it turned out they just kind of disintegrated after failing to master the science of growing potatoes. Plus their uniforms always sucked. Nothing even close to the sartorial splendor of a well-tailored sturmbannfuhrerzeitgeistheimlich. (Good song, though, the Internationale. We should have bought that off them.)
Al Qaeda was good for a while, but as an existential threat? People have resorted to pretending that Sharia was coming to Nebraska. It’s pathetic. We’re a superpower: we can’t have existential enemies who have in most cases known goats in the biblical sense.
I believe this explains the over-reliance on corporate villains and aliens as bad guys. Works in movies, not in politics. You just cannot have a Senator ranting about The Borg.
So, we clearly need a new world war. Preferably with some people capable of designing cool-looking weapons (Stuka, Luger, Panzer) and good uniforms (SS black was so ahead of its time) and do some good graphic design (swastika) and production numbers (Nuremberg anyone?) It would also help if their women could rock the dominatrix look.
I know: we all have hopes for the Chinese. Just not sure they’re going to step up.
Seriously hater?
“Hope and Change” are two of the softest words in the dictionary.
I bet you could achieve both in the next 5 minutes.
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Wednesday, January 19, 2011 at 16:53
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Ah, the interregnum between the last class and the opening of dining hall. Good times.
come on hater … lol I guess shouldn’t complain.
Yes hater, “hope and change” are bad things. bash them every chance you get.
Greg Sargent spoke to Cohen, and he’s not backing down (good for him).
He’s right. They are liars, and their lies are strategically disseminated from the top down with orders to be repeated everywhere, over and over and over again. They know they are lying, and they know the consequences. Less people with access to healthcare, which in turn leads to more suffering, death, and economic destruction, especially among the working poor. Republicans are pro-death, suffering, and economic destruction. It’s a pillar of their party platform, built upon bald-faced lies. Good for Cohen. We need more like him.
Feel free to criticize his allusion to Nazis all you like, but this…
“He said that Republicans had, in fact, repeatedly used a big-lie technique on health care.”
…is most definitely the truth…there are no “death panels” nor is there any “government takeover” and to argue that these things are real is to participate in the big lie…
> The Communists were good, but then it turned out they just kind of disintegrated after failing to master the science of growing potatoes
There was also the issue that they did not manufacture much besides concrete, and it was lousy concrete at that.
Feel free to criticize his allusion to Nazis all you like, but this…
“He said that Republicans had, in fact, repeatedly used a big-lie technique on health care.”
…is most definitely not the truth…there are “death panels” and there is a “government takeover” and to argue that these things are not real is to participate in the big lie…
This jack booted thug is amazed at how quickly out OTB Libs jumped in to defend Comrade Cohen. Let’s make a deal, we’ll be Nazis and you be Commies. Everyone’s happy!
Please note Steve that I didn’t actually Cohen.
Demonstrating that Godwin’s Law now applies in congress wasn’t exactly bright.
I just noted the irony.
Let’s make a deal, we’ll be Nazis and you be Commies. Everyone’s happy!
Oh no! We’ll be called Commies! Wait, the right has been calling the left Commies forever. As for Nazis, I can only offer this in response.
Now, back to the effort by Republicans to make sure more Americans suffer, go broke, and die, and the lies they tell to support that effort…
correction: “Didn’t actually [defend] Cohen”
“Oh no! We’ll be called Commies! Wait, the right has been calling the left Commies forever”
Sure, fluoride in the drinking water. Classic (and classically funny) example.
Cohen should know better what the Nazis and Germans were and did to make this comparison. It’s one thing to accuse an opponent of dishonesty. What Cohen did was quite another. He diminished the memory of the 6 million who died and he diminished himself in that he should no longer viewed as serious.