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People Like Joe Biden, Don’t Much Like The Idea Of `President Joe Biden’

Biden Sunglasses

A recent poll finds that Vice President Biden has fairly good favorability numbers among the public as a whole, but there’s very little desire to see him as President:

Just one in four registered voters say they think Biden would make a good president, while 65 percent say he would not.  And it’s not just Republicans who are responsible for that low number. A bare majority of Democrats (51 percent) say they think Biden would make a good president, while three in four independents (73 percent) say he would not.

That 40-point gap between “good” and “not good” president is far higher than any of the other potential 2016 candidates that Quinnipiac tested. The only candidate close to that sort of negative ratio of good president/not good president is Texas Sen. Ted Cruz who had a 24 percent/51 percent rating. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul (32/47) and Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan (34/46) also had net negative ratings on the question, while New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (49/31) and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton (54/40) had positive scores.

Here’s the fundamental contradiction that lies at the heart of Joe Biden: The hail-fellow-well-met-ness that makes him a sort of lovable rogue — for many Democrats and even some Republicans — is the same trait that ensures many of those same people can’t take him seriously as a president or presidential candidate.

Biden is no doubt aware of this, as well as he is aware of the sky high polling numbers for Hillary Clinton. It’s one of the reasons that I think that all the talk about Biden possibly running for President in 2016, talk that he has done nothing to quell, is just talk. In the end, Biden is likely doing what he can to keep his options open so that he continues to have some sort of political relevance within the Democratic Party in the final years of the Obama/Biden Administration. Toward that end, we’ll also likely see him energetically campaigning for Democratic candidates in 2014 just as he did for Cory Booker in New Jersey and Terry McAuliffe in Virginia this year. However, when it comes time to actually make a decision, I seriously doubt that we’ll see Biden throw his hat in the ring for a third time.

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Doug holds a B.A. in Political Science from Rutgers University and J.D. from George Mason University School of Law. He joined the staff of OTB in May, 2010 and also writes at Below The Beltway. Follow Doug on Twitter | Facebook

Comments

  1. wr says:

    It’s a pretty fair summation of my feelings about the guy…

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  2. C. Clavin says:

    I wouldn’t have a problem with Sec of State.
    His work in Foreign Policy has been under-rated.
    But I guess that’s a step down.
    Maybe a made up position that uses his talents but preserves his ego.
    Or not.

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  3. bill says:

    i like joe, just not in any leadership role.

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  4. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @C. Clavin:

    But I guess that’s a step down.

    The only thing that is a step down from Vice President is….. Geez, I’m having a hard time coming up with a position lower than Vice President. Maybe sewer cleaner. Or snakes belly in a wagon rut.

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  5. Rob in CT says:

    I can honestly say I have no opinion of Joe Biden. I don’t care about him, and just about never think about him in any way. You’ve resulted in me doing so for the first time in months.

    So yeah, not at all interested in President Biden.

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  6. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    Biden is actually as dumb as people say Sarah Palin is. He’s just a better liar. He has an advantage — he actually believes his own bullshit.

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  7. al-Ameda says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13:

    Biden is actually as dumb as people say Sarah Palin is. He’s just a better liar. He has an advantage — he actually believes his own bullshit.

    Help me out here: If Biden is a better liar than Palin, then doesn’t it follow that he wouldn’t believe his own bulls***?

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  8. Tillman says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13: I suppose if you’re going by the metric of “which path through life will earn me the most money in the shortest amount of time,” then yes, Biden is dumber than Palin.

    Somehow, however, I think he’s got the long run squared away.

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  9. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    @al-Ameda: Help me out here: If Biden is a better liar than Palin, then doesn’t it follow that he wouldn’t believe his own bulls***?

    No, it simply makes his own lies more acceptable — he sincerely thinks he’s speaking the truth.

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  10. al-Ameda says:

    @Jenos Idanian #13:

    No, it simply makes his own lies more acceptable — he sincerely thinks he’s speaking the truth.

    Well then, if he believes his (so-called) bulls*** is the truth, then he’s not lying. Intention matters, right? You may think it’s a lie, but lying implies an intention to deceive.

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  11. Jenos Idanian #13 says:

    @al-Ameda: I’ve tried arguing that definition before, but I’ve been told repeatedly that when I say something that is not correct, even if not deliberate, then I’m lying.

    I’m not that interested in the semantics and psychology behind it, but boiled down, since so much of what Biden says is woefully out of touch with reality, he should never be entrusted with anything.

    But if you want to get down to it, I think Biden actually convinces himself that what he says is true. He starts off knowing that he’s just making shit up, but eventually believes his own bullshit.

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