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Republican Senate Nominee Roy Moore Accused Of Abusing Four Women When They Were Teens

Roy Moore Victory Speech

The Washington Post is out with a report that could end up having a big impact on the Special Election to fill the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions, specifically the allegation that Republican nominee Roy Moore sexually abused at least four women when they were teenagers and he was a young District Attorney in his 30s:

Leigh Corfman says she was 14 years old when an older man approached her outside a courtroom in Etowah County, Ala. She was sitting on a wooden bench with her mother, they both recall, when the man introduced himself as Roy Moore.

It was early 1979 and Moore — now the Republican nominee in Alabama for a U.S. Senate seat — was a 32-year-old assistant district attorney. He struck up a conversation, Corfman and her mother say, and offered to watch the girl while her mother went inside for a child custody hearing.

“He said, ‘Oh, you don’t want her to go in there and hear all that. I’ll stay out here with her,’ ” says Corfman’s mother, Nancy Wells, 71. “I thought, how nice for him to want to take care of my little girl.”

Alone with Corfman, Moore chatted with her and asked for her phone number, she says. Days later, she says, he picked her up around the corner from her house in Gadsden, drove her about 30 minutes to his home in the woods, told her how pretty she was and kissed her. On a second visit, she says, he took off her shirt and pants and removed his clothes. He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear.

“I wanted it over with — I wanted out,” she remembers thinking. “Please just get this over with. Whatever this is, just get it over.” Corfman says she asked Moore to take her home, and he did.

Two of Corfman’s childhood friends say she told them at the time that she was seeing an older man, and one says Corfman identified the man as Moore. Wells says her daughter told her about the encounter more than a decade later, as Moore was becoming more prominent as a local judge.

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Corfman describes herself as a little lost — “a typical 14-year-old kid of a divorced family” — when she says she first met Moore that day in 1979 outside the courtroom. She says she felt flattered that a grown man was paying attention to her.

“He was charming and smiley,” she says.

After her mother went into the courtroom, Corfman says, Moore asked her where she went to school, what she liked to do and whether he could call her sometime. She remembers giving him her number and says he called not long after. She says she talked to Moore on her phone in her bedroom, and they made plans for him to pick her up at Alcott Road and Riley Street, around the corner from her house.

“I was kind of giddy, excited, you know? An older guy, you know?” Corfman says, adding that her only sexual experience at that point had been kissing boys her age.

She says that it was dark and cold when he picked her up, and that she thought they were going out to eat. Instead, she says, he drove her to his house, which seemed “far, far away.”

“I remember the further I got from my house, the more nervous I got,” Corfman says.

She remembers an unpaved driveway. She remembers going inside and him giving her alcohol on this visit or the next, and that at some point she told him she was 14. She says they sat and talked. She remembers that Moore told her she was pretty, put his arm around her and kissed her, and that she began to feel nervous and asked him to take her home, which she says he did.

Soon after, she says, he called again, and picked her up again at the same spot.

“This was a new experience, and it was exciting and fun and scary,” Corfman says, explaining why she went back. “It was just like this roller-coaster ride you’ve not been on.”

She says that Moore drove her back to the same house after dark, and that before long she was lying on a blanket on the floor. She remembers Moore disappearing into another room and coming out with nothing on but “tight white” underwear.

She remembers that Moore kissed her, that he took off her pants and shirt, and that he touched her through her bra and underpants. She says that he guided her hand to his underwear and that she yanked her hand back.

“I wasn’t ready for that — I had never put my hand on a man’s penis, much less an erect one,” Corfman says.

She remembers thinking, “I don’t want to do this” and “I need to get out of here.” She says that she got dressed and asked Moore to take her home, and that he did.

The reporters who wrote the Post report also interviewed friends of Corfman at the time who recalled her sharing at least some of the details that she alleges in her statements today, as well as others who remember her telling them that she was in a “relationship” with an older man. Additionally, the report includes reports from three other women of relationships between them and Moore around the same period of time when they were aged between 16 and 18 and Moore was in his 30s. At the time, the age of consent in Alabama was 16, so those reports are potentially not as serious as those made by Corfman, who was clearly underage at the time of the alleged incidents. Those additional reports don’t include as much graphic detail as the allegations by Corfman, so it’s unclear if Moore’s conduct in those cases rose to the level of sexual assault of some kind, but it seems clear from the women’s statements that the advances were largely unwanted and that Moore had plied them with alcohol at a time when they were below the drinking age, which was 19 at the time these events allegedly occurred. If these allegations are true, though, it’s likely that there are other women out there who had similar run-ins with Moore over the years.

All of this is happening, of course, in the midst of an increasing trend of women coming forward to allege sexual abuse at the hand of powerful and influential men. In some sense, it started with the allegations against Bill Cosby that stretched back to the 1960s and which revealed a man who used his fame and reputation to take advantage of dozens of young women for decades. In addition to Cosby, a number of women at Fox News came forward to allege sexual abuse and harassment at the hands of people such as Roger Ailes, Bill O’Reilly, and Eric Bolling. More recently, Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein and actor Kevin Spacey have been rocked by allegations of a chain of abuses that have essentially led to what seems likely to be the end of their respective careers. Now, it appears that the same phenomenon is seeping into the world of politics, and Moore is unlikely to be the last politician to have their past come home to roost.

The question, of course, is what impact all of this may end up having on the Special Election in Alabama that will take place on December 12th. Current polling continues to show Moore with a strong lead over Democratic nominee Doug Jones, but one does have to wonder if that will hold up if these charges stick and if additional women come forward to make similar allegations. Additionally, the response that the Republican Party has to all of this could have a big impact on the race. Already, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Colorado Senator Cory Gardner, who heads the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona have all said that Moore must drop out of the race for the Senate if the allegations are true and John McCain has said that Moore should step aside immediately. So far, though, Moore is denying the reports and relying on news outlets such as Breitbart News to defend him and attack the post. Whether those attacks can withstand the media scrutiny he’s about to face, or the possibility that there are other women out there ready to make similar allegations remains to be seen.

 

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Comments

  1. Mark Ivey says:

    I can’t wait for the President to speak-tweet on this.

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  2. CSK says:

    Trump backed Strange. (What a sentence.) It’ll be interesting to see if he has a position–so to speak–on this.

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  3. Franklin says:

    Why is this guy always choosing the wrong place to erect his monument?

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  4. Kylopod says:

    This is big.

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  5. michael reynolds says:

    I’m not surprised that Moore is a pig. He’s in the Trump vein, and Trump is Harvey Weinstein with nukes.

    I am disheartened to find Louis C.K. in a similar place. Louis is a real talent, a brilliant comedy writer and performer.

    I keep being surprised by the depth and breadth of misogyny. Racism I get. I am never surprised by racism. But this sexual predation, this contempt for anyone (usually female, but male, too) that a man can see as a sexual object, is stunning and depressing and shameful to me as a man.

    For decades now I’ve heard about ‘the women’s vote’ only to be disappointed time and time again when it failed to materialize. Women are not a minority, they are the majority. They have the power right there in their hands, if only they would use it. Maybe that time has come. And about damn time, too. My fellow males are certainly not making a case for continued male dominance.

    Masturbating into houseplants? Grabbing ’em by the pussy? Copping feels in the workplace?
    WTF boys? Seriously, WTF?

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  6. Richard DeMent says:

    I don’t think it will have any impact on Moore’s supporters. If they like him as he is they will simply write this off as Fake News.

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  7. Modulo Myself says:

    The Louis CK stories have been around for awhile. His new movie raised a lot of eyebrows given that a character does what everyone knew he had been accused of doing.

    When I was in my twenties and doing coke at some club on the Lower East Side, I was almost certainly a jerk who thought he was far cooler than he actually was. That’s why I did coke, and that’s why a gazillion people in the entertainment and finance industries do it. I really don’t understand how one makes the leap from self-delusion to masturbating in front of a woman, but men are pretty terrible when it comes to rationalizing.

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  8. CSK says:

    @Richard DeMent:

    They already have written it off as fake news.

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  9. Moosebreath says:

    I thought the standard was being in bed with a live boy or a dead girl. If so, Moore should be fine.

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  10. Paul L. says:

    Moore can count on the Duke Lacrosse/UVA Frat gang rape apologists that hypocritically will not defend Hollywood because of their Left Wing Politics smearing his victims and trying to debunk their stories.by pointing out inconsistencies .

    Time to remind progressives of their role in the Duke Lacrosse/UVA Frat gang rape witch hunts for their Rape culture narrative..

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  11. Daryl's other brother Darryl says:

    A teenage titty in one hand…a bible in the other.
    What’s tragic is that the only surprise here is that it wasn’t a teenage boy…

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  12. Jen says:

    @michael reynolds:

    For decades now I’ve heard about ‘the women’s vote’ only to be disappointed time and time again when it failed to materialize. Women are not a minority, they are the majority. They have the power right there in their hands, if only they would use it.

    A friend of mine lives in North Carolina, where she witnessed several men accompanying their wives into the voting booths last November. She complained to the election officials, who said there wasn’t anything they could do about it if the women weren’t objecting. I also know plenty of conservative women who think this “harassment stuff isn’t a big deal” and so on. These are the types who assert that everything is better now and basically we have nothing to complain about.

    In short, they are shaming other women in an effort to bolster their own political side. It’s utterly disgusting. Women putting other women down is a thing, and it starts in middle school. That we haven’t gotten too far beyond that is depressing AF, but it isn’t surprising.

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  13. Liberal Capitalist says:

    @Kylopod:

    This is big.

    Yep. Covfefe !!!

    It seems part of the overall landslide of women (and men) feeling empowered to speak up about sexual predators without fear of social stigma and retribution.

    If this “grab ’em by the pu$$y” generation has accomplished anything, it may be the end of blaming the victim, and accepting their word.

    #metoo has had a huge impact.

    And if anyone is unsure of what is acceptable behavior, this is a great primer:

    57 Things I Need You to Stop Doing to the Women You Work With

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  14. Modulo Myself says:

    With Moore, it’s terrifying how many fantasies men have about teenage girls who are so worldly and sophisticated that they can have actual relationships with a 40-year old man. This is a common trope for men, and it’s utterly insane.

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  15. Daryl's other brother Darryl says:

    @Paul L.:
    You blindly support an admitted serial sexual assaulter…so your position supporting Moore, and sexual abuse, is not in the least bit surprising.

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  16. the Q says:

    Moore with fall on his knees, ask forgiveness from the Lord, confess he is a weak sinner and needs the blood of Jesus Christ to wash away his predations.

    The Bible thumpers will forgive and forget, after all, in their minds, the woman probably is a liberal liar looking to destroy his Senate run.

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  17. bookdragon says:

    Sadly it will make no difference to the so-called god-fearing people of the AL GOP:

    After a long pause, Alabama Bibb County Republican chairman Jerry Pow tells me he’d vote for Roy Moore even if Moore did commit a sex crime against a girl.

    “I would vote for Judge Moore because I wouldn’t want to vote for Doug,” he says. “I’m not saying I support what he did.”

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  18. Bokonon says:

    You know things are bad when the best that right wing media can come up with is claims that it was consensual, involving poetry and guitars and suchlike, and … LOOK OVER THERE! GEORGE SOROS!!!

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  19. Hal_10000 says:

    I wish I could say I’m shocked that Moore has turned out to be raging hypocrite but … I’m not.

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  20. wr says:

    @Paul L.: Shorter Paul — “All those bitches are lying because lacrosse.”

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  21. PJ says:

    Republican Senate Nominee Roy Moore Accused Of Abusing Four Women When They Were Teens

    The Washington Post is out with a report that could end up having a big impact on the Special Election to fill the Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions

    So, you’re telling me he’s going to win in a landslide?

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  22. Scott says:

    Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler: “Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus”.

    And don’t let anyone tell you that 1980 in Alabama was backward and this was normal. I was stationed in Montgomery in early 80s and it was not materially different than anywhere else in the country.

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  23. Gustopher says:

    The woman who left her 14 year old child in the care of Roy “child molester” Moore while she went to a child custody hearing… in retrospect, not her best decision.

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  24. Paul L. says:

    @wr:
    Not defending Moore, but progressive’s track record with mobs going after accused is not the best.

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  25. wr says:

    Ultimately it doesn’t really matter if Moore wins or loses — if he loses, it’s 51-49 in the Senate, and if he wins, then the Republican party will be embracing a child molester into their caucus. And all during this campaign we’re going to keep hearing from more Alabama Republicans that child-rape is actually a good thing and even the Bible says so and by the way women who claim they were sexually assaulted are all lying bitches anyway. (See Paul L. above.)

    One way or the other, by mid-December there will be millions of suburban women who will not vote for a single Republican in 2018. And that includes a lot who gave Trump a pass on the pussy tape. The world has changed since then… and it ain’t changing back as new revelations keep coming out.

    Best line of the day is a tweet from one of McConnell’s people suggesting that Steve Bannon is trying to get Louis CK to step in for Moore…

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  26. Paul Hooson says:

    I’m not sure if even this is enough to convince many of Moore’s ardent backers that he’s actually just what he appears to be, a screwball. While campaigning, he dressed up like a cowboy and waved a gun in the air and had to be removed as chief justice of the state supreme court twice, At some point, don’t persons with any sense of rational reasoning realize that he’s only a crackpot?

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  27. PJ says:

    The GOP and GOP voters in Alabama won’t care about Roy Moore sexually abusing girls just as long as he’ll make sure they will all get born.

    Four girls? That’s like 0.1% of the girls being aborted murdered in Alabama in 2014 alone…

    It’s really a very small price to pay.

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  28. grumpy realist says:

    @Paul L.: Like HELL you’re not defending Moore!

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  29. walt moffett says:

    Interesting angle in Alabama law, holds that if Moore drops/gets dropped from the ticket, Rs can’t put a replacement on the ballot.

    Odd this didn’t come sooner but now it is.

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  30. Matt Bernius says:
  31. Stormy Dragon says:

    @walt moffett:

    Interesting angle in Alabama law, holds that if Moore drops/gets dropped from the ticket, Rs can’t put a replacement on the ballot.

    New Jersey’s law said Torricelli’s name couldn’t be replaced on the ballot in 2002, and yet it was anyways.

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  32. OzarkHillbilly says:

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you…

    Jeebus, these people.

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  33. JohnMcC says:

    Interesting little factoid: The U.S. Senate is able to refuse to seat Judge Moore. Or more correctly they could expel him (altho Wikipedia says that hasn’t occurred since the 1850s) or ‘censure’ him — whereupon every Senator in the past 150 yrs has resigned.

    If this issue continues and draws more women with the same complaints… And if he wins his election in AL… Won’t that be interesting?

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  34. Daryl's other brother Daryll says:

    @wr:
    Why do you have to drag lacrosse into it???

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  35. Daryl's other brother Daryll says:

    @Paul L.:

    Not defending Moore

    You defend Cheeto-Dick and sexual assault. And now you defend Moore and child abuse.
    It’s amazing what you Trumpkicans are willing to ignore in order to get tax cuts for people far wealthier than you will ever be.

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  36. MBunge says:

    @michael reynolds:

    So, you were in a coma during the 90s? Let me spell it out for you.

    B. I. L. L. C. L. I. N. T. O. N.

    It was all the misogyny you could ask for AND the perfect demonstration of why the “women’s vote” has been an delusion. Hell, fire up the intertubes and go watch some SNL sketches of the time and look at the savage portrayal of Linda Tripp.

    People defended and excused and ignored everything up to and including alleged rape, then wildly cheered that alleged rapist every four years at five Democratic National Conventions.

    WTF?

    Mike

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  37. Just 'nutha ig'nint cracker says:

    @CSK:

    It’ll be interesting to see if he has a position–so to speak–on this.

    I’m guessing it’s “never speak ill of a fellow pervert Republican.”

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  38. Paul L. says:

    @Daryl’s other brother Daryll:
    Just pointing out that Judge Moore can defend himself using the anti-woman smear tactics that were successful against the Duke Lacrosse and UVA accusers.

    Hollywood the Moral North Star of the US can not defend themselves as their feminist allies will not allow those tactics.

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  39. Just 'nutha ig'nint cracker says:

    @PJ: Considering that we’re talking about Alabama Republicans, yeah, pretty much a landslide.

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  40. Just 'nutha ig'nint cracker says:

    @Paul Hooson: It’s not that they don’t realize, it’s that they don’t care. And this is coming from someone who doesn’t particularly rate the electability of a candidate based on what I think of his or her morals and ethics. Still, Roy Moore would have to be a significantly better candidate before I would overlook being a perv in his younger life while he was serving as an officer of the court. (!!!)

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  41. Terrye Cravens says:

    @MBunge: Interesting you should mention Clinton…at least he stuck with adults and I bet you never questioned any of his accusers, now did you?

    Hypocrites.

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  42. Lit3Bolt says:

    @Paul L.:

    I admit I’m curious.

    What would you consider to be disqualifying for a Republican politician? What would make you not vote for them? Goat-raping? Devil-worship? A puppy skin coat? Skin tone?

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  43. Lit3Bolt says:

    @MBunge:

    So child molestation by a Republican is ok, because Bill Clinton?

    Where was the primal cry of “Chappaquiddick?”

    Don’t act like you’re a helpless bystander. If you dislike rape and assault on women, where’s your condemnation of Roy Moore, Bill O., and Roger Ailes?

    Whoops, never mind, you’re just a mindless Trump tribal making mindless Trump tribal claims. You have no moral authority here, Trump voter. Where’s your moral indignation over “Grab ’em by the pussy?”

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  44. Slugger says:

    @Paul L.: Wrongdoing by party A is not erased by wrongdoing by party B. Mr. Dillinger’s action do not allow me to do the same thing. It looks like you are advocating for sexual abuse of fourteen year olds. I am sure that you do not wish to speak in favor of child abuse, but that’s the image that you are projecting which I am sure is inadvertent.
    I am not without faults in my life, but chickenhawk is way over the line.

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  45. Lit3Bolt says:

    @michael reynolds:

    A helpful rule of thumb I’ve learned from driftglass over the years is everything that the Republicans accuses Democrats of is most likely simple guilty projection.

    What I want to know is how we went from a world where Trent Lott lost his position by praising Strom Thurmond’s racist protest run and Mark Foley was dismissed for molesting Congressional pages to the GOP being “Oh hey Neo-Nazis, KKK, creepy pedophiles, everything’s cool now, go run for office. Vote for tax cuts.”

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  46. al-Ameda says:

    @Paul L.:

    Moore can count on the Duke Lacrosse/UVA Frat gang rape apologists that hypocritically will not defend Hollywood because of their Left Wing Politics smearing his victims and trying to debunk their stories.by pointing out inconsistencies .

    So, can I put you down for, “he’s a conservative so I’m okay with it #FakeNews”?

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  47. Daryl's other brother Daryll says:

    @MBunge:
    Bunge…defending child molestation.
    Nice….

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  48. Richard DeMent says:

    @JohnMcC:

    The idea that won’t seat Moore is a fantasy. They have a tax bill to pass and they will just make up some hand waving BS and all will be forgiven.

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  49. Lit3Bolt says:

    @Richard DeMent:

    It’s also a implicit admission that all Republican values and policy ideas and probably even judicial perspectives at this point are bullshit on their merits.

    “We need the creepy racist feudal pedo-bear’s vote” is not the position of a party that is willing to freely debate and discuss its ideas in the public sphere.

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  50. Daryl's other brother Darryl says:

    @MBunge:
    Mike Bunge…defender of sexual harassment and child molestation.
    What a class act…….

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  51. Jen says:

    The amount of defense that Roy Moore is receiving is appalling. I probably need to stay off of social media today, because the level of “…well…but…” is just disgusting.

    Republicans are straight-up excusing child molestation. This is so, so disturbing.

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  52. Paul L. says:

    @Lit3Bolt:
    I would require proof of those things. And not just take the word of the people who jumped on the Duke Lacrosse and UVA rape hoaxes.

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  53. Scott says:

    Here in Texas we have men on our Sex Offenders list who were 19 at the time of the offense while the victim was 15. Roy Moore was in his 30s. This is a level of offense exponentially higher. Yet he is being defended.

    This is an indication of how the Christian Right has been corrupted by power. And let’s just stipulate that they were corrupted prior to Trump. He is as much a creature of their sins as he is of his own.

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  54. CSK says:

    @Just ‘nutha ig’nint cracker:

    Andrew Restuccia at Politico reported this morning that, according to Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Trump feels Moore should step down if the allegations are true.

    If Trump does think that, I’m pretty sure it’s only because Moore beat Strange, the guy Trump backed.

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  55. JohnMcC says:

    @Richard DeMent: The special election is Dec 12th. The Tax Reform (ah-hem) project is ‘supposed’ to be in full song by then. The question in my mind in bringing up the Senate’s self-regulated right to control it’s own membership by expulsion was whether someone would bring it up for debate when Sen-Elect Moore arrives in DC (possibly on his horse?). Especially during the period assigned for the Tax Reform (ah-hem) debate. Especially if it was a debate susceptible to the filibuster.

    Or imagine that ’18 saw a Democrat Senate. Why would ’19 be a bad year to bring up the expulsion of a pedophile?

    Any opportunity to bring up the Conservative/Trumpist/Pervert/ChildMolester would be rather nice, wouldn’t it? So my point is that seating Judge Moore is a fantastic Christmas gift from Steve Bannon to the Democrats.

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  56. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MBunge: SQUIRREL!!!!

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  57. charon says:

    @Paul L.: @CSK:

    “If true” is like “thoughts and prayers” – it’s what GOP people say to avoid admitting they want to not do anything.

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  58. PJ says:

    @PJ:

    Oh, all the downvotes.

    It’s the same sick reasoning behind the “moral” “Christian” right-wing voters voting for a lying adulterous sexual predator. He would nominate Supreme Court Justices who would strike down any abortion rights.

    Roy Moore would vote for these nominees, his opponent won’t.

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  59. Daryl's other brother Darryl says:

    @Paul L.:

    And not just take the word of the people who jumped on the Duke Lacrosse and UVA rape hoaxes.

    Um…actually it’s based on the word of a bunch of women Moore jumped on. And a whole bunch of people they told contemporaneously.
    You only believe what Fox News (sexual harassment central) tells you to believe.

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  60. Laura Koerber says:

    A reporter from Alabama told Rachel Maddow that this accusation will probably help Moore. Alabama Repubicans have no problem with electing Repubicans who are corrupt, criminal, or have a background of abusing women and girls. They might draw the line at electing a Republican who abused boys, maybe. Meanwhile the Repubicans in Congress, most of them will accept any Republican who will side with the oligarchy in their effort to destroy what remains of the middle class.

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  61. charon says:

    @Laura Koerber:

    GOP in Congress do not seem pleased at this.

    A) Moore is projected to be a loose cannon rolling around the Senate – not good for party discipline.

    B) Moore will stay popular in red areas that vote (R) anyway, but likely damaging to the GOP brand in purple areas like VA.

    Still, GOP congresscritters would prefer Roy Moore to Doug Jones.

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  62. michael reynolds says:

    @MBunge:
    After which your side backed one molester and harasser and rapist after another, generally on orders from Fox News, home office of sexual harassment.

    So your logic runs like this: Bill Clinton had consensual sex with a 22 year-old intern, who at no time claimed duress, 32 years ago, therefore that justifies, say, Bill O’Reilly and child molester Roy Moore?

    Clinton’s ‘crime’ was abuse of status – he had power and authority over his sex partner. That is not rape, it is not child molestation, it is not assault or harassment. What Bill Clinton did was exactly what Newt Gingrich was doing contemporaneously while hypocritically attacking Clinton.

    Then Republicans topped it all off by electing as president Mr. “Grab em by the pussy,” who used to creep out the contestants at Miss Universe by walking into their changing room. And your side put up a child molester for Alabama Senate.

    The difference here is that we liberals have now punished our Weinsteins, C.K.s and Spaceys, while your side continues to support Moore and Trump and O’Reilly.

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  63. Yank says:

    So your logic runs like this: Bill Clinton had consensual sex with a 22 year-old intern, who at no time claimed duress, 32 years ago, therefore that justifies, say, Bill O’Reilly and child molester Roy Moore?

    Clinton’s ‘crime’ was abuse of status – he had power and authority over his sex partner. That is not rape, it is not child molestation, it is not assault or harassment. What Bill Clinton did was exactly what Newt Gingrich was doing contemporaneously while hypocritically attacking Clinton.

    Exactly.

    What Bill Clinton did was bad. But he isn’t the first politician (hell, not even the first president…) to have a sexually relationship with an intern. What Moore is being accused of isn’t even in the same stratosphere, this is statutory rape territory.

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  64. CSK says:

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has cut off funding to Moore.

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  65. PJ says:

    @CSK:

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has cut off funding to Moore.

    And the sicko is now fundraising off the report.

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  66. gVOR08 says:

    @MBunge:

    So, you were in a coma during the 90s? Let me spell it out for you.

    B. I. L. L. C. L. I. N. T. O. N.

    Rush Limbaugh said,

    You can do anything, the left will promote and understand and tolerate anything, as long as there is one element,” the conservative talk show host said in comments posted online by Media Matters. “Do you know what it is? Consent.”

    “If there is consent on both or all three or all four, however many are involved in the sex act, it’s perfectly fine, whatever it is. But if the left ever senses and smells that there’s no consent in part of the equation then here come the rape police. But consent is the magic key to the left.

    That’s right.

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  67. gVOR08 says:

    @CSK:

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has cut off funding to Moore.

    Amazing how eager they are to do the right thing. After there’s been enough publicity.

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  68. Just 'nutha ig'nint cracker says:

    @Lit3Bolt: You inadvertently hit on it in your last line. It’s all about tax cuts. They’re all that matter–well eliminating health care access for less well to do citizens too, but mostly tax cuts.

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