TSA Agent At Body Scanner: “Heads Up, Got A Cutie For Ya”
Via Twitter, another example of TSA abuse:
Last week, one of my flying partners (Captain with Skywest) was going through security at DEN with his 18 year daughter. As his daughter approached the detector, the TSO working the NoS said on his headset, “heads up, got a cutie for you.” He then confronted the TSA clerk with what he said and that neither of us are going through the NoS. The TSA clerk said you must have misunderstood me.
He said pat-down was pretty evasive, and his daughter felt uncomfortable.
He is taking it up with Skywest, with this behavior. Normally, crews there go through a different screening area, but since he was with his daughter, he got to see the TSA clerks at their finest in Denver
I’m sure that this is put what example of what’s going on out there.
Honestly, this strikes me as a good issue for Republicans to take up when they take control of Congress. Security is important, obviously, but it strikes me that what we’re doing in airports right now isn’t really providing all that much security at the cost of inconvenience, embarrassment, and invasions of privacy.
Yeah, I’m sure that the party of “If you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to be scared of ” will jump right the heck on that one.
Also, realizing that this is a quote, not you but:
One would probably prefer an evasive search. It would certainly beat an invasive search.
> Yeah, I’m sure that the party of “If you haven’t done anything wrong, you have nothing to be scared of ” will jump right the heck on that one.
The right cheered the GOP on as it increased the size and power of the federal government. By all means, lets take a deeper look at the abuses that have resulted.
You know, I really don’t give a rip what a scan sees or doesn’t see. I’ve actually had friends blown up on airplanes and have no inclination to follow their paths. I expect, as a minimum of courtesy, that other passengers do their bit to help me avoid that fate. I’m doing it for them, after all.
I’ll be going through the scanners later this week. I’ll let you know how that goes.
I can well imagine the GOP jumping on this. Since when have they cared about being hypocrites?
Once again: the GOP has no core beliefs. It’s just tribalism and client services. Everything else is bullshit.
@John –
The Full Body scanners aren’t capable of detecting explosives. Period. The technology isn’t there. They can’t detect liquids or lipid solids or plastique.
In other words, you’re handing over your privacy for NOTHING.
Umm… actually, the Republicans will require BOTH x-ray AND body-search. After all, they’re the party that believes all women are always “looking for it” when it comes to things like rape, sexual harrassment, and so on. AND it is in their best interests to make us even MORE paranoid about traveling than they’ve already made us, so they can institute EVEN MORE PROHIBITIVE travel restrictions in ways that make EVEN MORE MONEY for their cronies.
The whole transportation security system needs to be DISMANTLED ASAP if we want people to be able to travel SAFELY.
“Honestly, this strikes me as a good issue for Republicans to take up when they take control of Congress.”
But, it was their idea in the first place! It’s like the people blaming Obama for the recession – someone else was in charge when that shit went down…
The politicians won’t do anything. If they do, it will be superficial. The erosion of our rights has already occurred. There is no going back now. Once the government steals something, it never gives it back.
> The erosion of our rights has already occurred.
True. And the right cheered and did cartwheels while it was going on.
I just went and checked my constitution again… I still can’t find “The right to fly” in it, much less a “right to fly without invasive +/ embarressing searches”.
Just sayin’…
@tom p –
Try the Ninth and Fourth Amendments.
You know, there have been grumblings in the past about the TSA, but it seems to me that its really hit full steam this past weekend–I’ve seen articles about it on national press, local press, and left and right blogs. If any changes occur in the near future to better improve securtity/passenger experience, I think this past week will have marked the turning point.
“I just went and checked my constitution again… I still can’t find “The right to fly” in it, much less a “right to fly without invasive +/ embarressing searches”.
Just sayin’…”
I also didn’t see the right to make a baby, the right to choose what you’ll have for dinner, the right to wear underwear, etc. Don’t be daft.
With that said, there are Constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure, and we are rapidly approaching “unreasonable.” That footage of the 3 year old getting searched??? Seriously?
I’m still not worrying about it. I’m not giving up any more privacy that I do when I go to a clothing optional beach, as I do. I really don’t care. If the scans do nothing more than discourage would-be attackers, that’s enough of a plus for me.
Alex just checked the 9th and 4th amerndments AGAIN….
they still say the same things as they have always said:
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
Have you tried to fly lately Alex? My arms got really tired. So I used one of the many services available… NONE OF WHICH ARE GAURANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
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If you did not quite understand, we are human, we can not fly, therefor we need others to help us fly, they have rights as well….
ergo: suck it up you bunch of weenies…
and quit yer whining.
“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”
And the ninth amendment still means only what the Supreme Court decidedes it means:
Not much.
“With that said, there are Constitutional protections against unreasonable search and seizure, and we are rapidly approaching “unreasonable.” That footage of the 3 year old getting searched??? Seriously?”
Herb, did not see the 3 yr old searched… quite simply because I did not want to. BUT… the truth is, nobody has a right to fly somebody else’s airplane… Not even a 3 yr old.
Look Guys, I have no complaint with all of you bitching about the TSA and their over reaching. BUT… there is no constitutional right to flight in the constitution. Think about it: We, ALL need a little help to fly…
this is not even close.
All you small gov’t people… Where are you?
tom p – Its not about the “right” to fly. We very well may not have that right. Hell, we don’t have a “right” to drive cars, ride roller coasters, or to stand in line at Wendy’s, but we DO have the right to refuse government agents to search us without probable cause (our legal line of reasonableness).
John Burgess (and others),
You’re willing to subject your safety to:
1) systems that won’t detect explosives / devices secreted in the body
2) an organisation that hires minimum wage
3) people who work for minimum wage
Get real. The TSA is all about Security THEATRE, not dealing with the reality of secure travel. They won’t even take advice from people who have been doing this for years…. i.e.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199—israelification-high-security-little-bother
“there is no constitutional right to flight in the constitution.”
“All you small gov’t people… Where are you?”
I’m not sure if you’re just joking around or what. Taking you seriously, this is what I would say: The “small gov’t people” are unlikely to get on board with the “no constitutional right to fly” argument. They might actually be more open to the argument that there’s no constitutional right for the government to grope your nuts before you get on a plane. Talk about government overreach.