Video Proves Obama an Alien!
Thomas Lifson believes the “game changer” desperate Republicans are looking for could have arrived with this video from — and, sadly, I’m not making this up — someone calling themselves “Molotov Mitchell” at something called ” Illuminati Productions.”
The video is just shy of 11 minutes but, as Lifson describes it,
It makes accessible to the general public some of the serious questions about Obama’s citizenship status that have been vetted almost exclusively in the conservative web world.
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But you can get people to watch 11 minutes of interesting video raising a slew of questions for Obama, in fact cornering him, on the question of his birth, citizenship, and eligibility for office as POTUS under the Constitution. Especially if people start talking about the video. It’s called viral distribution.
As I’ve noted in previous posts, it’s rather clear that both Obama and McCain are natural born citizens under the Constitution and thus eligible for the presidency. Let’s stipulate, for the sake of argument, though, that Mitchell is not only right but that this commercial goes viral like nothing in the history of the Internet has ever done before, not only getting seen — twice — by every man, woman, and child but spawns catch-phrases, t-shirts, and a line of action figures.
Why would it matter?
Let’s go further and posit that Barack Obama was genetically engineered in a laboratory in a galaxy far, far away from the genetic material of Adolf Hitler, Idi Amin, Osama bin Laden, and Roseanne Barr and found in a rocketship just outside of Honolulu by Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham and raised as their own. If his life then proceeded exactly as it otherwise did and he turned out to be exactly the person that he is today, why would it cause someone who now prefers him to John McCain to change their mind?
Sure, as a technical matter, he would be ineligible under the Constitution. If elected, however, I can’t imagine that 1) the Supreme Court would intervene in a political matter of that magnitude and deny him the presidency and/of 2) we wouldn’t swiftly amend the Constitution to do away with the “natural born” requirement.
This is tinfoil hat stuff.
I also don’t see how this will resonate with anyone.
James, you’re starting to venture into territory where even Alex is reluctant to tread. You cannot amend the constitution quickly to do anything, and I’m absolutely dead certain it wouldn’t be amended just to benefit Senator Obama. Do you really think you could get three-fourths of the state legislatures to amend the constitution before January 21 (or perhaps before the election, depending on how you interpret the constitution) just so Obama could be president? Or anyone for that matter? And too many loathe and dread the idea of a constitutional convention for that to come about.
Imagine Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi rewriting the constitution. That might even make you want to vote for Governor Palin.
FWIW, I do agree tht the video is tin foil hat material. This is a ridiculous issue.
On another point, if Senator Obama suddenly deicided to say that he was not a natural born citizen, then I hope the Supreme Court would do it’s job or the “living” constitution will be dead to most of us as it will no longer mean anything but what the most powerful say it means.
American Thinker is also pushing the “Bill Ayers wrote Dreams of my Father” fantasy. How did that site choose its name, btw?
Sounds credible to me…
I imagine it would in that situation, but we’re never going to see that situation, so it’s kind of pointless no?
For some reason, on reading the title, I thought you meant Extra-terrestrial.
Something that the America’s Right and Freeper folks should note about Phil J. Berg, the lawyer interviewed in this video who is filing the lawsuit seeking Obama’s birth certificate, is that this is the same Phil J. Berg who filed the petition to arrest Bush and Cheney for their alleged responsibility for the 9/11 attacks. In a nutshell, he’s a big friend of the Troofers, and a bit of a whack-job (though I’m being redundant).
So you say that for reasons of expediency, or an unaware public voting for an alien, that you would support the Supreme Court and the Congress in making it right and allowing this alien to serve as president? So much for the Constitution here. Disgusting.
Why do some people call this a rediculous issue? It is potentially a direct conflict with the law of the land, as written in the Constitution. The issue is before a court, as it should be. It will be decided on the merits of the case, one hopes.
Those who declare it a “tin foil” issue are way off base. Let Obama prove his birth was in the US. The burden is on him to satisfy the requirements for election to the presidency.
As I said previously, to trivialize this issue is to deny the validity of our Constitution and the court system. To “fix” it by edict from the Supreme Court, is to make a mockery of the Constitution.
We will soon hear from the courts.
As I said in an earlier thread when this “video” was cited:
A further thought: I have seem absolutely NO accredited and accepted evidence as to the birthplace of Obama. If someone has such evidence, and can support its legitimacy properly, I would welcome it.
Put it up, or back off.
Are you implying that Obama’s mother wasn’t a US citizen?
The day when Democrats are going to explain/defend/justify our candidates to right wing nutjobs engaged in smear tactics is over.
The issue has already been decided. Obama’s citizenship has already been recognized, he is registered to vote, he is a US Senator and he has a US passport. He has a valid birth certificate from the State of Hawaii, and you have no documents showing that he was naturalized at any point after his birth. In fact, you have no reason to believe he was not a US citizen by birth, and every possible reason to believe that he is. That is why it is ridiculous.
John McCain is not born in the US, as has already been pointed out many times, not did the Panama Canal zone give jus soli citizenship to children born there until after John McCain’s birth. John McCain is a US citizen by virtue of his parents’ citizenship. Barack Obama is a US citizen by virtue of both his mother’s citizenship and his being born within the US.
This has been done a while back: https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/barack_obama_natural_born_us_citizen/
First, I’m arguing that it wouldn’t matter to many Obama supporters if through some technicality he wasn’t a “natural born citizen.”
Second, I don’t think the Supreme Court would be willing to overturn an election to enforce that particular provision, especially since there’s some wiggle room as to what exactly it means.
Third, while I agree it’s hard to amend the Constitution quickly, I do think that a constitutional crisis such as this would cause a fairly quick response to an antiquated provision. It wouldn’t be Obama-specific; we’d just change it to allow any citizen, naturalized or native, to serve, perhaps with some residency requirement. (Say, having been a citizen 20 years or whatever.)
I thank you, Michael, for the reference. I am sure that the electronic documents in question, and the expertise of Strata will be useful in the court’s deliberations on Obama’s true birthplace. I am also sure that the testimony or depositions of his Mother and others will be of use to the judge.
As I have said before, I await the courts’ decisions, which will hopefully end the matter in a proper legal manner. The US Government is supposed to vet candidates for election to the presidency. I have not seen proof of such vetting, which would likewise be of consideration for the judge.
It is sad that this issue has not been addressed properly by Obama himself by furnishing all evidence of his birthplace freely and openly to the government and the public. We should not be left with the necessity for having self-appointed experts examine what could be a forgery in the first place, the providence of the certificate being a critical question, as well as is the actual registery entry of birth in Hawaii being of essence to the proof. An original birth certificate would be of real value as well.
It is quite proper for the Courts to examine the evidence and to establish once and for all the correct situation prior to the election. I am not surprised at the time it is taking, since there are necessary investigations to be conducted in Hawaii, Kenya, and Indonesia, probably by the FBI.
I meant provenance, not providence.
I wonder just how many voters in the US consider the provision of native birth for the presidency to be “antiquated” and impotent in the face of a violation of the provision?
Do we have a Constitution or not? Is it the Law of the Land, or is it merely an impediment to those who want this man to be elected? That many voters for Obama, it is suggested, do not care that this provision of the Constitution is violated is a terrible commentary on the state of our union.
Angin-san: shall we let the Courts decide this issue? It is in their hands now, rightly or wrongly. It is a sad commentary that it was necessary to take this issue to court.
Michael: I have not commented on the citizenship of Obama’s Mother. But, if he was born other than in the US, the fact of her citizenship and age is of direct importance under the laws governing native born status at that time.
It is a legal proof of citizenship, which has been verified by the State of Hawaii. Unless you want to accuse the State of Hawaii of fraud, there isn’t much to deliberate upon. What proof do you have that you are a citizen, manning?
His mother is dead, as is his father.
He has provided proof of his citizenship through birth right, verified by the authority of the State of Hawaii. What do you want, stone tablets being sent down from heaven?
He provided his damned birth certificate! What the hell more is there that he could provide? What are you not getting about this?
His mother met the citizenship and age requirements for Barack to be given citizenship rights by birth, even if he wasn’t born in the USA, which he was. Unless you want to accuse the State of Kansas of forging birth certificates too.
Michael, please don’t feed the troll.
Oh you’re right, thanks for the intervention.
Sorry, but the legal proof has not been verified by the federal government–as yet–to my knowledge.
As to my proof of citizenship, it has been verified by every government entity in the path, from State through Federal, multiple times, and by several security agencies, of which I have the proof as well. I can stand up in court and show well-documented evidence of my citizenship. That is a wrong tack to take, Michael–LOL!
You just might know, or maybe not, that the certificate of birth is not the final governing document. Entry into the Registry of
Births is the final authority. That may well be examined by the investigators in Hawaii to remove all doubt as to the provenance of Obama’s cetificate.
Why shouldn’t the candidate for president have to submit at least the details I did from birth till now? He will have high level accesses I never knew existed.
He provided an electronic copy of his birth certificate, about which there is a question. He has not provided an embossed original–as yet–which he claims now to have in his possession, but has not released it.
This is very simply a question of the Constitutionality of Obama’s candidacy. Why is it that you think the court should not examine the evidence and make a clear and complete decision?
That is my opinion.
I find that those who quibble on this point want to subvert the Constitution in this case, or to smear the question over as “tin hat”. That is the height of trollsmanship, in my opinion.
That is unacceptable for an American citizen to champion.
You have consistently assumed that I believe Obama is an alien. I have not said that anywhere.
I take the position that, if there is any question about his citizenship, it should be properly settled by the government. Further, since a court is reviewing the evidence, which happened much before this series of posts, I have said that this is a proper thing to happen, and that the courts would come to a final determination.
I am indeed very interested in the outcome of the court’s deliberations, and will accept their authority on the matter. Everyone else seems to believe that the issue already decided, when the current court has not delivered its opinion yet;
even those who do not have direct access to the evidence!
It would not be the first time that forged documents and complicity have been used to garner native-born citizenship. Why not settle the matter in a legal manner?
Born in the U.S.A.
The truth about Obama’s birth certificate.
By Jess Henig | factcheck.org
Of course, this is nothing but a pack of lies as everyone knows that FactCheck is in the tank for Obama, and, I mean, really, Newsweek? The MSM??? If Jerome Corsi says it’s a fake, that should be good enough for anybody. Right?
So we are to accept Factcheck without any questions? I think not. Let the courts decide, not some private organization. One might ask how it is that FC was given access and not the court, as is claimed?
More fog on the subject.
I haven’t laughed this hard at a thread in a while. I’m about 85% sure that “mannning” is actually Triumph.
James;
So you don’t care if Axelrod’s puppet is legally a candidate or not? Worse you would circumvent the constitution to allow his presidency?
If not,at least,your pontification above clearly supports these things.
Yet, Palin is not qualified to be VP, because she insisted on firing a trooper who had tasered his child, abused his wife and threatened the governor and her family.
I look forward to your fever subsiding on or about November 5th, and the return of the rational James Joyner we all love and respect.
I’m not saying he is or he isn’t. But the funny thing to me is that Obama gave the information to Factcheck.org and not the courts to get this whole mess thrown out.. If it were me and I could clear it up in no time I would by showing the judge my stuff and that will be that.. not give it to a web site.