Impeachment Hearings Enter Busy Second Week

Today begins another week of impeachment hearings by the House Intelligence Committee. By the time the smoke clears, the ground could have shifted significantly for the President.

The impeachment inquiry by the House Intelligence Committee enters its second week starting this morning, and it promises to be a busy and possibly eye-opening week:

Washington (CNN) Democrats who want to oust President Donald Trump and Republicans battling to save him are braced for the most momentous phase yet in the battle of impeachment that is rocking Washington.

The showdown that could result in Trump becoming only the third US president to suffer such a fate will resume in the House Intelligence Committee at 9 a.m. ET with appearances by senior national security officials.

Dramatic televised hearings featuring what is expected to be occasionally stunning testimony over the next three days could decide whether Trump’s accusers can establish that he abused his power to pressure Ukraine for political favors. Democrats have simplified their charge against the President — arguing now that he may be guilty of the impeachable crime of bribery after holding up military aid for Ukraine.

The coming days will also be crucial for Republicans hoping to confound a difficult pattern of facts to show Trump did nothing more than exercise his vast authority to set foreign policy.

Should they fail to undermine Democratic claims that Trump offered a quid pro quo, the GOP may have to fall back on a defense that Trump deplores — that his conduct was unpresidential but does not reach an impeachable standard.

Days of packed testimony will also test Trump — who is unable to restrain himself from unloading Twitter blasts against witnesses that Democrats warn could themselves be impeachable acts.


Hearings will resume after Democrats and Republicans regrouped over the weekend following stunning revelations from key witnesses last week.

Halfway through two weeks of hearings planned so far, Democrats appear closer to proving their case. But Republicans are so far mostly standing firm behind the President ahead of an expected House impeachment vote next month and a potential Senate trial.

Looming over everything is an appearance by US Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who is expected to be grilled by both Democrats and Republicans on Wednesday.

Sondland has emerged as a direct point of contact between the President and the Ukrainians, according to testimony from several key witnesses.

Democrats want him to confirm that Trump ordered him to make nearly $400 million in US military aid conditional on Kiev opening investigations into a conspiracy theory that Ukranians meddled in the 2016 election and into former Vice President Joe Biden.

Republicans are likely to seek to damage Sondland’s credibility as a witness, in a hearing that may force him to choose between limiting his own legal exposure or protecting the President.

In a new move in the intricate impeachment duel, Democrats scheduled testimony from diplomatic aide David Holmes for Thursday. Holmes said in a behind-closed-doors deposition last week that he had overheard Trump talking loudly on a cell phone call asking Sondland whether Ukraine was ready to open investigations that the President had requested from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

Holmes’ testimony could potentially be used by Democrats to redirect any contradictions to their impeachment case offered by Sondland — or could potentially box him in before his appearance.

Several Republicans were far more shaken by a private deposition of Holmes last week than they let on, CNN reported on Monday.

While last week’s hearings were mostly about background information that didn’t necessarily contain any blockbusters, that’s not likely to be true today. Today beginning at 9:00 a.m., for example, we’ll hear from Lt. Col. Alexander Vindamin, who was the top Ukrainian specialist at the National Security Council and who was one of the people on the line for the July 25th phone call between President Trump and President Zelensky of Ukraine. Based on his closed-door deposition, Vindamin testified that after the phone call he went to the chief attorney for the N.S.C. who told him to keep the matter quiet notwithstanding his concerns. The Washington Post has a good summary of Vindamin’s expected President. The second witness this morning is Jennifer Williams, a member of Vice-President’s staff who also was on the line for the July 25th phone call and testified in her deposition that she found the phone call to be “shockingly” and overtly political but was apparently also told to be quiet about her concerns.

The afternoon witnesses today will be equally consequential and will include two people who were closely involved with the Administration’s Ukraine policy and deeply involved with the efforts to push the Ukrainians to investigate the President’s political enemies. One of these will be former Ambassador Kurt Volker who was among the so-called “three amigos” in the Administration that also included E.U. Ambassador George Sondland and Energy Secretary Rick Perry who were put in charge of the Administration’s Ukraine policy. Among other things, Volcker is expected to testify regarding the extent to which President was pushing for investigations of Joe and Hunter Biden and the discredited Ukrainian 2016 election interference conspiracy theory. Among other things, Volker is expected to testify regarding the involvement of Rudy Giuliani in this process. Volker is also expected to testify that he was unaware that aid to Ukraine was tied in any way to investigations of the Bidens or other issues, but it should be noted that there are also suggestions that he may not have told the complete truth with regard to this issue, something that will make his testimony in particular quite interesting.

The second witness this afternoon is Tim Morrison, a former N.S.C. aide who was also sitting in on the July 25th phone call. Both of these witnesses were on the list of witnesses that Republicans on the committee requested and they are apparently expected to testify that the phone call established the kind of quid pro quo that other witnesses have testified to. Morrison is also expected to testify that he didn’t think that aid was tied to Ukrainian cooperation on investigations.

As usual, the hearings will be carried live on the cable news networks and on C-Span and also be streamed live on a wide variety of media sources available on mobile devices. Needless to say, it’s going to be a long day.

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  1. Scott says:

    One of the arguments the Trump supporters have been making is that this situation is unelected bureaucrats substituting their preferred policy agenda over the President’s.

    My question is this: Has there been any documentation submitted that backs up this argument? Are there any official policy memorandums, call memos, emails, anything that give clear, direction instructions to the diplomatic corps to carry out a specific policy?

  2. Jax says:

    Devin Nunes is such a turd.

  3. Teve says:

    Kevin M. Kruse
    Again, the Bidens could publicly confess to stealing billions from Ukrainian companies for illicit purposes and it still wouldn’t change the allegations against the president.

    A president asking a foreign nation to investigate a political rival is an impeachable offense, period.
    Kevin M. Kruse
    If you’re on trial for attempted murder, and the cops have reams of evidence against you including eyewitness testimony, you’re not going to get off by claiming the intended victim was a bad person.

  4. Teve says:

    stolen from a friend’s tweet:

    Castor: it’s probably hard for you to remember if he actually said all these things (investigations, Biden, 2016) since it was a long time ago

    Vindman: no, he definitely said all three of them

    Also, I’m not watching the hearings but several dozen people on Twitter just called Gym Jordan and Devin Nunes lots of terrible names. Wonder what just happened.

  5. Kit says:


    My question is this: Has there been any documentation submitted that backs up this argument? Are there any official policy memorandums, call memos, emails, anything that give clear, direction instructions to the diplomatic corps to carry out a specific policy?

    Don’t doubt that the Right, were it to set its mind to it, could find something. One stray word in a document of dubious provenance and the whole fever swamp would be bubbling and belching for years to come. I, for one, am willing to accept notions of a perfidious deep state as an article of right-wing faith, better left unexamined.

  6. Gustopher says:


    If you’re on trial for attempted murder, and the cops have reams of evidence against you including eyewitness testimony, you’re not going to get off by claiming the intended victim was a bad person.

    I’m pretty sure “he needed killin’” is still an effective defense in large parts of the country.

    It was only a few years ago that we were hearing of the “gay panic defense” to excuse killing gays, or the “trans panic defense”. And Trevor Martin was no angel…

  7. Kathy says:

    The abuse of power is too plain to see.

    Let’s assume Biden was involved in quashing an investigation on his son, whom we’ll also assume was involved in some kind of illegality.

    Fine. Who then should investigate and how? To begin with, the DOJ and FBI, both of which answer to Trump. Naturally they’d later need to involve the State Dept. and possibly the Treasury Dept. as well, and would have to visit Ukraine officially and request assistance from the local authorities.

    Such transnational investigations are not uncommon, and none involve retaining aid, pressuring a foreign leader, investigating only when the subject runs for office, or acting completely outside of the designated agencies and sending Trump’s private lawyer to take the lead.

    As I mentioned before, a foreign policy achievement can be beneficial for a candidate seeking re-election. Opening up China helped Nixon. Keeping the US out of WWI, helped Wilson. And I’m sure the effect on reelection was part of their calculations. But in each case, and many others, they were conducting foreign policy for the benefit of the country, not to benefit themselves.

  8. David M says:

    It’s noteworthy to look back at how this abuse of power and impeachment inquiry have developed. At the beginning, it was described thusly:

    There is no question that Trump has committed a serious abuse of power here, and it seems very clear that he abused his power solely for his own perceived political benefit…Impeachment is the constitutional remedy for such abuses of power. These are exactly the kinds of self-serving abuses that impeachment was designed to check. Abuse of power need not be a crime to be deserving of impeachment, and there is already enough evidence of abuse to warrant finding out just how far the rot goes. Under the circumstances, an impeachment inquiry is entirely appropriate

    Since then, we’ve only had a steady drip of incriminating evidence, and all of Trump’s defenses have crumbled. What’s so disconcerting is the Republican support for Trump hasn’t wavered, there appears to be no limit to the corruption they will accept on their side.

    A republic, if you can keep it indeed.