Joe Biden: Gay Marriage Consensus Is “Inevitable”

Vice-President Biden said today that a national consensus accepting same-sex marriage is coming:

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden said Friday that the country is evolving on the issue of gay marriage and he thinks it’s inevitable there will be national consensus.

He said on ABC’s “Good Morning America” the same thing is happening with the issue of marriage that happened with gays’ service in the military.

Changes in attitudes by military leaders, those in the service and the public allowed the repeal by Congress of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that will eventually allow gays to serve openly in the military.

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This comment comes only a few days after President Obama said at an end-year press conference that his own views on the issue were “evolving”:

Just hours after he repealed the “don’t ask, don’t tell” ban on gays serving openly in the military, President Obama acknowledged the discrepancy in his position on supporting gays in the military, while opposing same-sex marriages, and conceded his “feelings are constantly evolving.”

Taking a victory lap at the end of what he called the most “productive post-election period” in decades, the president celebrated the raft of new laws passed
in the final weeks of the year, including the repeal of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” which today he signed into law.

Asked by ABC News’ Jake Tapper why he believed gay Americans should now be allowed to fight and die for their country but not enter into legally sanctioned
marriages, the president admitted that he struggled with the duality in those positions.

“My feelings are constantly evolving,” Obama told reporters about his position on gay marriage.

“I have friends, I have people who work for me, who are in powerful long-lasting gay or lesbians unions,” he said, acknowledging that same-sex marriage is
“something that means a lot to them.”

“My baseline is a strong civil union that affords them legal protections,” the president said Wednesday, just before leaving for his Christmas vacation in Hawaii. “I recognize from their perspective, it’s not enough.”

This doesn’t represent an official change in position, of course, but things are, as the President said, evolving.

FILED UNDER: Barack Obama, Gender Issues, Joe Biden, Politicians, Quick Takes, US Politics
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Comments

  1. Andyman says:

    Sometimes it’s funny how quickly the evolution takes place. It was only 2004, of course, that everyone saw anti-gay marriage initiatives as the GOTV pump that kept Bush in office. Fast forward a decade or so to 2016 and the same attitudes will as likely as not be a significant drag on the GOP ticket.

    The electorate is losing, almost exclusively, 70- and 80-year olds, and gaining teenagers and 20-somethings even more quickly. Such is life. Last year’s SUSA chart showing that young Mississipians are more supportive of gay marriage than senior citizens in Massachusetts pretty much ended the debate on whether or not the writing is on the wall for heterosexual-only marriage.

    The only question is how tenaciously the GOP insists on going down with the ship. Should be fun to watch.

  2. Doug says:

    Very funnily if it is even a word, Biden is a true conservative as the real issue is not gay marriage. When is Biden going to state that it is inevitable that polygamy is made legal. Why is it that a man cannot have 6 or 7 wives if he can afford them based upon freedom of religion. If this country is truly a religiously free country why don’t they allow Moslems guys to have 6 or 7 wives like Muhammad did and then also look at the age of his wives. Here is an account of Muhammad and his wives: Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6yrs old, he is 49yrs old and consummated the marriage when she was 9yrs old, Muhammad is then 52yrs old. Muhammad had several slaves, one of them called Mariam he had a relationship with and a son called Ibrahim and later he married her. Muhammad married his adopted son’s wife Zainab after Zayd divorced her knowing that Muhammad was interested in her.
    Muhammad married all together 14 wives but had 9 wives at any one time. Muhammad used to boast to his disciples that he can have sex with all 9 wives in one night. Biden is truly an ultra conservative right wing politician not only because he is not supporting polygammy as to religious freedom but also because he is against allowing marriage to a 6 year old girl. Where do Biden’s standards come from? He insinuates it’s ok for a guy to marry a guy but not to allow a guy to have numerous wives? Is he a female chauvinist pig in some misguided elitist attempt to protect women. Women don’t need protection as they can fly as fighter pilots, own ball teams, be pro wrestlers, be the President of the United States or Vice President like himself. Biden has to loosen up and get with the program and be a little more liberal. In addition why does he only speak of one guy marrying one guy? What about one guy marrying 6 or 7 other guys? Down with the conservative Biden. Bring back, what’s his name, you know the guy whose ex-wife just died, what’s his name? Oh yeah, Edwards. Now there is a true liberal. He could hide out from those photographers jogging from stall to stall in the men’s room so good they couldn’t keep up with him. Argumentum Absurdum!
    Next article: Biden: “It’s inevitable, men and women should be allowed to marry their pets.” Ah, spoken like a real heroic statesman who will go down in history as the greatest pet lover in history. We love you Joey.

  3. Doug says:

    Very funnily if it is even a word, Biden is a true conservative as the real issue is not gay marriage. When is Biden going to state that it is inevitable that polygamy is made legal. Why is it that a man cannot have 6 or 7 wives if he can afford them based upon freedom of religion. If this country is truly a religiously free country why don’t they allow Moslems guys to have 6 or 7 wives like Muhammad did and then also look at the age of his wives. Here is an account of Muhammad and his wives: Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6yrs old, he is 49yrs old and consummated the marriage when she was 9yrs old, Muhammad is then 52yrs old. Muhammad had several slaves, one of them called Mariam he had a relationship with and a son called Ibrahim and later he married her. Muhammad married his adopted son’s wife Zainab after Zayd divorced her knowing that Muhammad was interested in her.
    Muhammad married all together 14 wives but had 9 wives at any one time. Muhammad used to boast to his disciples that he can have sex with all 9 wives in one night. Biden is truly an ultra conservative right wing politician not only because he is not supporting polygammy as to religious freedom but also because he is against allowing marriage to a 6 year old girl. Where do Biden’s standards come from? He insinuates it’s ok for a guy to marry a guy but not to allow a guy to have numerous wives? Is he a female chauvinist pig in some misguided elitist attempt to protect women. Women don’t need protection as they can fly as fighter pilots, own ball teams, be pro wrestlers, be the President of the United States or Vice President like himself. Biden has to loosen up and get with the program and be a little more liberal. In addition why does he only speak of one guy marrying one guy? What about one guy marrying 6 or 7 other guys? Down with the conservative Biden. Bring back, what’s his name, you know the guy whose ex-wife just died, what’s his name? Oh yeah, Edwards. Now there is a true liberal. He could hide out from those photographers jogging from stall to stall in the men’s room so good they couldn’t keep up with him. Argumentum Absurdum!
    Next article: Biden: “It’s inevitable, men and women should be allowed to marry their pets.” Ah, spoken like a real heroic statesman who will go down in history as the greatest pet lover in history. We love you Joey.

  4. Doug says:

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