Taguba Congressional Testimony

AP: Taguba Cites Mismanagement in Iraq Abuse

The Army general who first investigated prisoner abuse in an Iraqi prison told Congress on Tuesday the mistreatment resulted from faulty leadership, a “lack of discipline, no training whatsoever and no supervision.”

Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba also left open the possibility that members of the Central Intelligence Agency as well as armed forces personnel and civilian contractors were culpable in the abusive treatment of prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison.

“A few soldiers and civilians conspired to abuse and conduct egregious acts of violence against detainees and other civilians outside the bounds of international laws and the Geneva Convention,” Taguba told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

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At the same time, questions about ultimate responsibility for control of the Abu Ghraib prison produced a disagreement between Taguba and Stephen Cambone, the undersecretary oif defense for intelligence.

Taguba said that control had been turned over to military intelligence officials.

Cambone said that was incorrect, and it resided with the military police.

In a further disagreement, Taguba said it was against Army rules for intelligence troops to involve MPs in setting conditions for interrogations. Cambone said he believed it was appropriate for the two groups to collaborate.

Taguba also told the committee his investigation had not found “any order whatsoever, written or otherwise,” that directed the military police to cooperate with intelligence forces at the prison.

Regardless of any disagreements, Cambone and others told the panel that troops in Iraq were under orders to abide by the Geneva Conventions, which dictate terms for humane treatment of prisoners.

Reuters adds:

At a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, West Virginia Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd, questioning Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, said the abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison was not just about guards and interrogators lacking in personal values, but “about policies and planning” from a higher level.

Byrd asked Taguba, “Who gave the order to soften up these prisoners, to ‘give them the treatment?’ Was this policy? Who approved it?”

“I did not find any evidence of a policy or a direct order given to these soldiers to conduct what they did,” Taguba replied.

“I believe that they did it on their own volition. I believe that they collaborated with several MI (military intelligence) interrogators at the lower level, based on the conveyance of that information through interviews and written statements,” Taguba said.

Rob Tagorda has some interesting thoughts on Taguba as well.

The NYT has a full transcript of the hearings. If it disappears into their archives, you can access it on my site here.

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Comments

  1. dw says:

    I’m happy the DB maxed out before you got any further in with Inhofe’s testimony. I went to school with his kids, and for the life of me I don’t know how the hell they could have come from a loose screw like him.

  2. James Joyner says:

    It’s all there now. Oddly, I noticed that it had cut off when I first posted it and added the rest in. I must have forgotten to rebuild it or something.

  3. dw says:

    It’s still cutting off for me, but I slogged through it on the NY Times site. Inhofe really has lost it. I’d love to compare it to Ted Kennedy’s grandstanding, but I can’t. I am at loss for words.

    Of course, this is a guy who once gave a 25 minute speech on why the US must support the Contras and how the liberals who opposed it were nothing more than Communists… as a high school commencement speaker.