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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter

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  1. Teve says:

    @WajahatAli

    The future of the GOP is fascism. People who can’t see it are refusing to accept reality that’s staring them in the face.

    why can’t the republican party quit Donald Trump?

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  2. Sleeping Dog says:

    Today in magical thinking

    Breyer Worries Retiring Could Add to Polarization. Would It?

    “Breyer is embracing an image of the judge as being above partisan labels,” Neal Devins, a professor at William and Mary Law School and co-author of “The Company They Keep: How Partisan Divisions Came to the Supreme Court,” said in an interview. He pointed to Justice Breyer’s past criticism of proposals to expand the court, which Justice Breyer has openly worried would increase the court’s reputation for partisanship.

    “There’s a coherent, consistent theme coming from him,” Professor Devins added.

    Still, he couldn’t help feeling that the justice was stuck in the past. “Is Breyer aware of the world that he lives in?” he said. In this day and age, “it’s quite obvious that there is this divide where the Republican justices are to the right and the Democratic justices are to the left.”

    Justice Breyer, the ship has sailed on the question of the SC and the courts in general in having a partisan bent. Wake up, smell the coffee.

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  3. Teve says:

    Get ready for the conservative freak out:


    Set Reveal: #40516, “Everyone Is Awesome”

    LEGO is usually apolitical, but it’s made the courageous decision to honor LGBTQ rights with an upcoming set featuring the colors of the gay pride “rainbow flag” as well as the transgender pride flag.

    Seth Abramson
    May 13
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    The AFOL community is politically very diverse, so it remains to be seen how it will react to what is undoubtedly an honorable and wholly appropriate decision by LEGO to honor the catchphrase from The Lego Movie, “Everything Is Awesome”, by adding to it the obvious fact that diversity—including diversity in sexual orientation and sexual identity—is also awesome. {Note: I apologize for putting this wonderful but fantastically earwormy song into the head of those who know it as the main theme of The Lego Movie.}

    The news of this forthcoming LEGO set was originally broken by a popular Instagram account, The Brick Man (see his feed here) that focuses on forthcoming LEGO sets.

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  4. CSK says:

    It’s obvious that Kevin McCarthy is terrified of having to testify about his phone call with Trump during the insurrection. And yes, Trump will make “the steal” the theme of his rallies this summer.

    http://www.thebulwark.com/why-america-needs-a-january-6-commission/

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  5. Jon says:

    “The NY Attorney General is now conducting a *criminal* investigation into Trump Org’s financial practices, in addition to its civil probe.

    Also, the NY AG seems to working w/the Manhattan DA, as 2 long-running probes of Trump seem to be sharing info.”

    h/t Balloon Juice

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  6. Jon says:

    @Jon: D’oh, that WP link may be paywalled .. here’s the link to the post on Balloon Juice itself.

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  7. CSK says:

    @Jon:
    There’s a good piece about it at NPR as well.

    Laugh of the day: Apparently some of OAN’s “top talent” has fled the the place for the saner realms of…Newsmax.

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  8. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Water is wet: ‘They kill the person twice’: police spread falsehoods after using deadly force, analysis finds

    Violent arrests in which the press releases cited medical distress while downplaying or entirely excluding references to use of force have occurred in Hayward, where a man seeking mental health treatment shouted “I can’t breathe” while held on the ground; Antioch, where a man who had called police for help was restrained with his face in the dirt; Sacramento, where a man was shot by a Taser weapon and beaten into a coma, leading to the city’s largest police violence settlement; San Diego, where a man died with a police officer’s knee to his neck; and Alameda, in two separate deaths.

    “To me, ‘medical distress’ means someone is having an asthma attack and we can get them help,” said Anne Gattenby, whose brother Shelby died after Alameda police shot him five times with a stun gun and restrained him on his stomach in 2018. Police initially said he had gone into “distress for unknown reasons”. “It’s wrong to steal somebody’s loved one and then put them through the wringer and use this language to cover your ass so it doesn’t make you seem like the bad guy. It’s not OK.”

    Last month, the Alameda police department pinned Mario Gonzalez to the ground for five minutes until he lost consciousness and died. The first press release described a “medical emergency”.

    ………………………………..

    Armour, the USC professor, said he did not expect police departments would change their public relations, even in the face of scrutiny.

    “We cannot compel them to make unflattering descriptions of their conduct or interactions that turn lethal,” he said, noting that police continued to use the vague and widely criticized phrase “officer-involved shooting” when they killed civilians. “It’s human nature for them to describe events in the way that shines the most favorable light on the officers.”

    The lesson for journalists was that they should no longer be “stenographers” for police, Armour said.

    Nold said reporters should not only approach police statements with general skepticism but start from the assumption that police willfully mislead the public: “The press release is the city’s first line of civil and criminal defense.”

    Even when journalists correct the record as they continue to report on a case, initial falsehoods can continue to spread online and in some cases be exploited to discredit victims. Some Fox News commentators have continued to falsely suggest George Floyd died because of drugs or other factors.

    Spokespeople for most of the police departments featured in this story declined to comment or did not respond to inquiries.

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  9. Teve says:

    @ThePlumLineGS

    Manchin is now claiming protecting voting rights isn’t a partisan issue. This is dangerously wrong. If he can’t allow himself to acknowledge that the GOP is fully committed *as a party* to restricting voting rights everywhere, we’re in trouble. New piece:

    https://t.co/Gudhl3SMI5

    Is Manchin brain-damaged, or lying?

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  10. OzarkHillbilly says:

    A Black Indianapolis homeowner has alleged that appraisers’ valuations of her home more than doubled after she removed items that identified her race and asked a white male friend to attend an appraisal.

    Carlette Duffy and the Fair Housing Center of Central Indiana have filed housing discrimination complaints with the federal government, alleging appraisers violated fair housing laws. The appraisers, the complaints said, purposely used comparable sale prices that were unfair and racially motivated.

    One appraiser named in the complaints denied discrimination played a role, while other people and companies involved in the appraisals did not respond to the Associated Press’ requests for comment.

    Duffy sought to take advantage of lower interest rates last year and refinance the mortgage loan for her home in a historically Black neighborhood just outside downtown Indianapolis, the Indianapolis Star reported.
    More than 90% of Black Americans say they have been racially profiled while shopping
    Read more

    She purchased the house for $100,000 in 2017 and expected it to be valued similar to her sister’s home in the same area, which was appraised at roughly $198,000 in 2019.

    An appraisal conducted by CityWide and Jeffrey Pierce of Pierce Appraisal in spring 2020 valued her home at $125,000. A second appraisal conducted by Freedom Mortgage and Indianapolis-based appraiser Tim Boston, of the Appraisal Network, valued her home at $110,000.

    A third appraisal, which was conducted after Duffy did not declare her race in her application and took down all family photos and African American art in her home, came back at $259,000.

    I am shocked, shocked I tell you.

    “I’m excited, vindicated, relieved, angry, extremely peeved – since I can’t say the other expletives that were running through me at that point in time – destroyed that I had to go through all of that,” Duffy said. “This is real … just being able to prove it is the hard part.”

    Stop beating around the bush Carlette, and tell us how you really feel.

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  11. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: Why not both?

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  12. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Gee, what could go wrong?

    Citizen was launched in New York City in 2017, originally under the name Vigilante. The app works like a “glorified police scanner”, using location data to feed users information about crime in their area. It has since expanded to more than 20 cities including Baltimore, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Detroit.

    Users of Citizen are encouraged, if it is safe, to livestream footage from the aftermath of crimes and fires. The app says it “empowers” users “to protect yourself and the people and places you care about”. It has also partnered with cities including Los Angeles to allow for contact tracing during the pandemic.

    …………………………….

    The vigilante crime app Citizen falsely accused a California man of starting a wildfire, offering a $30,000 reward to track him down before retracting the post the next day, in a move that has been condemned by criminal justice experts.

    The app – which gives users local crime information via police scanners and other sources – shared an alert on Saturday about an alleged arsonist behind a large brush fire that broke out in Los Angeles over the weekend.

    The suspect, who is homeless, was briefly detained by officials who ultimately found there was not enough evidence to tie him to the crime, the Los Angeles fire department confirmed to the Guardian. A different suspect has since been arrested.

    But that was not before the falsely accused man had his name and image widely shared. The alert sent by Citizen contained a photo and was seen by more than 861,000 people. It read: “Citizen is offering a $30,000 reward to anyone who provides information that leads to the arrest of the arson suspect.”

    It’s only a matter of time before the next Ahmaud Arbery, and when that happens can Citizen be held responsible?

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  13. sam says:

    Someone mentioned fusion yesterday. This is an interesting piece: Fusion & Magic.

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  14. CSK says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    This app should be very, very popular with hysterical busybodies who fantasize crimes where none are being committed and wannabe tough guys who flunked the psychological test to get into the police department.

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  15. Kathy says:

    Today’s paradox: I watch more TV now that my TV is broken.

    My routine is to turn on the TV and the PC when I get home. I then do web browsing while the TV provides background noise, I half pay attention to the audio, and from time to time glance at it and watch a few minutes.

    Now that the TV is broken, I tend to stream stuff on the PC, but that I have to watch (as mostly it’s things I haven’t seen before).

    BTW, yesterday the TV decided to turn on. neat! I thought, maybe it could be repaired after all. But after a few minutes, the colors went all crazy, as if the tint and color saturation were out of whack. The settings were ok, though. Then the whole screen was possessed by a white-out, which subsided shortly. still, the image looks positively surreal, and too bright even with the back light turned all the way down.

    In the immortal words of Dr. McCoy, “It’s dead, Kathy.”

    There’s no rush to replace it until the NFL season starts, unless I can stream that (for free) as well.

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  16. To the Trump Cult anything resembling criticism of the Dear Leader is considered “radical left” socialism if not communism.

    Similarly these Cultists consider any criticism of Israel or Israeli actions to be considered antisemitism.

    There is a common theme here.

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  17. Kathy says:

    @Doug Mataconis:

    I also see a very peculiar form of moral licensing. Yelling “antisemitism!” at every criticism of Israel, allows Cult 45* to either engage in actual antisemitism themselves, or to support, or take the support of, antisemitic organizations.

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  18. Kathy says:

    @Jon:

    We’ve been disappointed before.

    I’ll repeat Solon’s advice (paraphrased): Count no one happy until the Turd d’Orange wears the orange jumpsuit.

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  19. Teve says:

    @jaketapper

    House GOP Whip Scalise announces Republicans WILL whip GOP Members to vote AGAINST the creation of a bipartisan National Commission to Investigate the January 6th Attack

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  20. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: Good news, the campaign commercials write themselves.

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  21. Teve says:

    If you bought one bitcoin on April 15th, you paid $63,300, and today you can sell that bitcoin for $36,000.

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  22. Michael Cain says:

    @Teve:

    Is Manchin brain-damaged, or lying?

    Or possibly, is trying to find some way to be for voting rights, but not HR1. HR1 would require many, probably most states to make substantial changes in their election systems. And while the feds are willing to help pay for the initial changeover, they’re not providing ongoing funding for the larger staffs that will be required. Manchin may simply not want to go home and face a lot of WV election officials saying, “We did nothing wrong! Why are we being required to rebuild our election system?”

    And it’s not just red states. As I understand Oregon’s vote by mail system and read HR1, Oregon’s counties will have to create a new parallel in-person voting system that doesn’t exist today. Also Hawaii, where with the new vote by mail system, there are only eight in-person polling places across all of the islands. Eight polling places for the state will almost certainly not meet HR1’s standards. And we don’t even want to start on how extensively New York’s system may have to change.

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  23. Teve says:

    @Michael Cain: oh HR1 might be good or bad, I haven’t investigated. I was responding to Manchin’s insane claim that voting rights isn’t a partisan issue. That’s crack-brained.

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  24. OzarkHillbilly says:

    The Tigers’ Spencer Turnbull strikes out the Mariners Mitch Haniger on 3 pitches to secure the first complete game of his career and the 5th no hitter of the ’21 season .

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  25. Kurtz says:

    @Kathy:

    There’s no rush to replace it until the NFL season starts, unless I can stream that (for free) as well.

    Well… Yes. I am aware of such a website.

  26. Jon says:

    @Kathy: Oh for sure, I don’t think he’ll actually get arrested or suffer any real consequences. I made my (uneasy) peace with that. I enjoy it purely for the fact that I’m sure it is getting under his skin.

  27. Michael Reynolds says:

    Democrats autopsy the 2020 election:

    Maloney laid out how Democrats simply underestimated the number of hardcore Trump voters and, with more Trump voters in the voting booths, the Republican attacks against the “defund the police” movement proved more potent than Democrats ever anticipated.

    “The lies and distortions about defund and socialism carried a punch, but the Republicans think it got them over a 10-foot wall, when Trump’s turnout gave them a seven-foot ladder,” Maloney said in 45-minute interview, exclusively outlining what he calls the “Deep Dive” into the election.

    TL;DR: bad polling, money wasted on TV, lazy strategic thinking, ‘defund,’ and ‘democratic socialism.’ Charlie Cook says it was ‘defund,’ that killed Democratic momentum and now the autopsy agrees. Feel free to tell me I’m ‘hippie punching,’ @wr, but the fact is that progressives were very helpful in the voting booth and really un-helpful in messaging. ‘Defund’ was a big mistake. Live by meme, die by meme.

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  28. CSK says:

    @Jon:
    Obviously, being kicked out of office really bugs him. Otherwise he’d have stopped raving about it.

  29. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    TL;DR: bad polling, money wasted on TV, lazy strategic thinking, ‘defund,’ and ‘democratic socialism.’ Charlie Cook says it was ‘defund,’ that killed Democratic momentum and now the autopsy agrees. Feel free to tell me I’m ‘hippie punching,’ @wr, but the fact is that progressives were very helpful in the voting booth and really un-helpful in messaging. ‘Defund’ was a big mistake. Live by meme, die by meme.

    I’ll agree with you and add that Dems have a voter participation issue. It is far too common for marginal Dem voters to cast ballots only for the federal races and at times only for the presidential race. Conversely, marginal R voters are happy to vote for the complete R slate. The Dem under vote is damaging the party’s prospects.

    So much of the Dem GOTV rhetoric was vote against TFG. not vote against TFG and his R fellow travelers.

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  30. Mikey says:

    @Michael Reynolds: “Defund the police” was a terrible slogan because it required a lot of explanation as to why it didn’t actually mean what anyone who heard it automatically assumed it meant. If you have to spend time explaining a slogan, it’s a crap slogan.

    “Democratic socialism” was terrible because it has the word “socialism” in it and that word is probably the single most poisonous word in American politics, and it also needs explanation of why the “democratic” gets stuck on the front of it (which a lot of Americans aren’t going to believe anyway).

    Democrats need to stop preaching to the already-converted and understand how certain words and phrases will be received by those who may be receptive to the message but not wholly convinced.

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  31. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: He may be reflecting the views of his constituency–who, just as likely as not, don’t give a flying fwk about voting rights of CLANGGGGGs and want big city folk and ACORN not getting away with voting fraud. I’ll admit that this is probably not what’s going on, but it’s still possible.

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  32. MarkedMan says:

    @Michael Cain: I’m a lot more skeptical than you. As far as I can tell, Manchin has never actually been for or against anything other than minutely calculating whether any given position will gain or lose more votes at his next reelection. From what I understand he has a history of promoting legislation and then a few years later promoting the repeal of that same legislation, supposedly even legislation he authored. Bottom line, he is a master of being both for and against things at the same time, and will never act willingly on anything controversial.

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  33. Some interesting comments from former President Obama regarding UFOs

    I believe this is the first time that a sitting or former President has commented on the UFO, or as the military refers to them Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP), issue.

    This comes at the same time the UFO/UAP story has become some the mainstream media is covering the issue and the Pentagon is dragging its feet on providing a report requested by two of the most important committees in the Senate. Even Republicans like Marco Rubio are talking about it.

    Obama probably knows more than he’s saying because he was POTUS when military pilots were reporting these sightings and cameras were recording these encounters. There is likely more that is classified information.

    What these phenomena are is unclear. Thet could be American experimental aircraft being tested by DARPA or some other agency, they coild be something developed by a foreign power, it could be some naturally occurring phenomenon, or it could be extraterrestrial in origin.

    Whatever it is I would expect more open discussion of these phenomena in the media and elsewhere. We saw an example of this on the report on 60 Minutes this past Sunday.

    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/05/19/obama-we-dont-know-what-the-ufos-are-n390953

    And from Nstuonal Review:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/the-conventional-wisdom-on-ufos-is-shifting/

    Finally here’s the report that aired on 60 Minutes thos past Sunday:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-military-intelligence-60-minutes-2021-05-16/

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  34. Teve says:

    From an astrophysicist at my alma mater:

    A Word about Those UFO Videos

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  35. Jon says:

    @Teve: NC State … is that still a 4 year school? 😉

    I enjoyed her (Katie Mack’s) b00k, The End of Everything: (Astrophysically Speaking).

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  36. Teve says:

    @Jon: hey, don’t mock it. I got an A+ in “Meat”.

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  37. Gustopher says:

    @Teve:

    Is Manchin brain-damaged, or lying?

    He could also be counting the votes, seeing that Semina is not on board, and thinking “Well, why would I get in front of this?”

    He is conservative, AND a Democrat, AND a shifty weasel trying to keep his seat by not getting ahead of his constituency.

    Which is the operative part right now? It’s impossible for us to tell, and probably impossible for him to tell. But every time he can get the left to bash him, he thinks it plays well in West Virginia, so why would he give that up?

    Part of HR1’s brilliance is that it is over-reach, so it gives Manchin the opportunity to smack something down, and then support a smaller bill much to the consternation of the left who will be very vocal.

    It doesn’t matter at all if there’s no way to pass it though. We would need to get both him and Sinema on board simultaneously, as neither would stick their neck out for no concrete effect.

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  38. dazedandconfused says:
  39. The Assoc8ated Presz looks into the question of whether Hsmas, Israel, or both are committing war comes in their current conflict. It’s a complicated issue.

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html

  40. Posted the strong link.

    Will tepost

  41. The Assoc8ated Presz looks into the question of whether Hsmas, Israel, or both are committing war comes in their current conflict. It’s a complicated issue.

    https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-crimes-explainer-87fc72d73fae1664d3a42a8bf79d10b5

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  42. Teve says:

    @politics_polls

    2024 National Republican Primary:

    Trump 48%
    Pence 13%
    DeSantis 8%
    Trump Jr. 7%
    Romney 4%
    Haley 4%
    Cruz 4%
    Tim Scott 2%
    Rubio 1%
    Noem 1%
    Pompeo 1%
    Cheney 1%
    Hawley 0%
    Hogan 0%
    Rick Scott 0%

    .@MorningConsult/@politico, 982 RV, 5/14-5/17

  43. Kathy says:

    Well, that was a relief. Preceded by a scare.

    Over the weekend while showering I noticed what looks like a bump right over the site of the hernia. My first thought was “Oh. F**k! Not again!” The second was “This has to go in the same deductible as the previous problem.”

    Anyway, I called the surgeon and he looked at it today. it’s nothing to worry about, he says, just tissue scarring and inflammation. He said, too, everything seems better than at our last appointment late in April. We’re still on for a followup early in July.

    I still feel like I dodged a bullet.

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  44. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Gustopher:

    Most likely w/o some voting rights bill, Semina will probably be former Sen. Semina, as the AZ legislature has already rigged the vote.

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  45. wr says:

    @Teve: “I was responding to Manchin’s insane claim that voting rights isn’t a partisan issue. That’s crack-brained.”

    Unless he hopes ultimately to vote for it, and to claim he wasn’t making a partisan vote…

  46. CSK says:

    @Teve:
    That’s interesting, if only because the dedicated Trumpkins really despise Mike Pence as a gutless backstabber for certifying the election.

    Some others think that DeSantis should run in 2028, after Trump has served his second term.

  47. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: There you go again, bringing science and reason into a discussion about the inexplicable.

  48. Kathy says:

    @Teve:
    @CSK:

    We’re just over three years away from the very early start of the 2024 primaries. I would say that’s an eternity in political time, but the interval seems far longer than that.

    A lot can happen in that time. The GOP may wash out in 2022, Trump may die, Trump might finally implode, or the horse might learn to sing.

  49. dazedandconfused says:
  50. Mimai says:

    @dazedandconfused: Who knew that herpes would be such a conversation killer around here?! Hmmm……

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  51. Kathy says:

    @Mimai:

    Let’s return to a perennial favorite, then: vaccines.

    Regarding yesterday’s controversy about how vaccinated people can go unmasked, I learned today my hernia surgeon got the vaccine early in February (somewhere in the US). I met him late in February, and have seen him through March, April, and May. He always wears a mask.

    Speaking of vaccine tourism, I know a lot of people who got the vaccine in the US. I haven’t made a count, but it must be over a dozen. Most went in February and March, a few in April. Given that flights between Mexico and the US never stopped, I wonder just how many shots were given just to Mexican citizens.

    Of those I know, all got Pfizer or Moderna, and just one intended to get the J&J jab, because it meant only one trip rather than two. In any case, she got caught in the pause after she’d booked a flight, so she took Pfizer and two round trips.

    Oh, and they all wear masks.

    Today marks two weeks sine my first Pfizer dose. I have to assume that if all worked well, my body must have begun producing antibodies to the trump virus. No clue when I’ll get the second dose. next week looks improbable. A reasonable guesstimate would be some time in June.

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  52. Teve says:
  53. Jax says:

    @Kathy: I saw something the other day that with the Pfizer vaccine, delaying the second dose is actually beneficial to increased immunity. So you got that going for you!

    Our school district has scheduled a vaccination clinic for middle and high school kids who want the vaccine (and whose parents are ok with it, I guess) on June 1st, right before school gets out for the summer. I assume Public Health will handle the second doses over the summer. Glad I don’t have to drive, at least!

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  54. Jax says:

    @Teve: That looks pretty good!

  55. Stormy Dragon says:

    @Michael Cain:

    And we don’t even want to start on how extensively New York’s system may have to change.

    This would be a good thing. New York’s system is one of the worst in the country.

  56. Kathy says:

    @Jax:

    So you got that going for you!

    I do. Whether I want to or not 😉

    As to teens, I’d treat the vaccine like abortion: a teen can get one without notifying their parents.

  57. Mimai says:

    @Teve:

    That first pic looks like it has a finger tip in the blender!

    I’ve been meaning to crowdsource a venison recipe here, so forgive me if I highjack your post to do so. I’ve got some really nice venison from these good folks. Very much recommend!

    I’ve already made several of the obvious items (eg, burgers, racks). Am now looking to branch out. I’ve got ground and stew meat (looking at you Teve, don’t let your alma mater down). Anyone got any unique recipes to toss my way. Note, I’ve got no restrictions or general food hangups.

    Thanks in advance.

  58. Mimai says:

    herpes -> vaccines -> salsa -> kids -> NY voting -> abortions -> venison

    Now that’s what I call an open forum!

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  59. Teve says:

    @Jax: it is very tasty. And very simple to make.

    28oz can of peeled san marzano maters
    3 jalapeños, with the white flesh stripped out, or 1 whole
    1/3 white onion
    Tsp sugar
    Tsp salt
    Tsp or so of lime juice
    Cilantro

    Pulse 10-15 times. Done.

    Bonus: (and the reason I’m doing this, I’ve got high blood pressure)
    Store-bought salsa can have 200mg of sodium *per ounce*. Mine has maybe 350mg *per quart* and it’s delicious. The American food system is almost Designed to kill you.

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  60. Teve says:

    @Mimai: i had some venison chili last week cuz my boss is a hardcore bow hunter. It was good, though a little too chewy. Didn’t get the recipe from him though.

  61. Jax says:

    @Mimai: You can do about anything that you’d do with beef with ground venison or stew meat. A nice venison stew, heavy on the onions, with taters and carrots…..venison stroganoff with spaetzle noodles….

    Antelope, now, that’s a tricky meat to handle, but delicious if you do it right.

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  62. Mimai says:

    @Teve:
    @Jax:

    Too warm for stew stuff now…..I’m craving more summertime fare. Teve’s salsa is pushing me towards carnitas, which I think the stew meat would be nice for. Of course that would obligate me to homemade tortillas. If I must…

    Jax, I’ve eaten antelope (and most other game meat) but never prepared it myself. What’s your trick…..other than don’t overcook it?

  63. Jax says:

    @Mimai: It starts with the actual shooting of the animal. You can’t run it, AT ALL. One shot, lay it down, field-dress, and keep it as cold as possible til you can get to a refrigerator or cold storage. I have several extra refrigerators, so I generally quarter it and wrap it up good until I have time to start de-boning and processing. I soak all the steaks and roasts in sweetened, condensed milk for 3-4 days, then start packaging for freezing. The loins and some steaks, I wrap in bacon and freeze.

    The sweetened condensed milk also works really well for sage grouse and such. Takes the gamey taste out.

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  64. Jax says:

    @Mimai: My kids also love the jerky, I do the same process with the jerky, but instead of the freezer, it’ll get slathered in marinade and put in the dehydrator.

  65. Mimai says:

    @Jax: Thanks. Re the soaking, it’s just like with liver and other minerally meat – good to know. And I’m with your kids on good jerky made with good meat. My venison source also does jerky, but I’ve got a South African friend who hooks me up with proper Biltong, so I’m all good on that front.

    My vet buddy has a hookup for Akaushi beef (he did some consulting work for the TX breeder), so I’ve got a freezer full of that. Good stuff. Happy that it’s grilling weather again.

  66. Jax says:

    @Mimai: I have several neighbors that run Wagyu bulls on their angus cows. They’re some ugly bastards. My kids call them Wag-ewwwww. 😛

    They get quite a bit more on contract with that cross, the guy owns the bulls, leases them out, then comes and picks up all the calves in the fall. They don’t save those crosses for breeding into their own herds, they all go straight to feedlots. The bulls don’t do well at this elevation and in the mountain country, though. Every single one I help bring home in the fall is broken down and angry.

    I just bought myself some belted Galloways for my birthday! I’ve wanted them since I was a little girl. We have all red angus bulls this year, so my chances of a RED belted galloway is pretty good.

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  67. Mimai says:

    @Jax:

    A red Scottish cow! I believe that could incite ethnic violence somewhere. Those Galloways are some cute buggers. And I get a kick out of this being your bday present to yourself!

    Back in December, I helped my buddy do preg checks on a dairy that still had quite a few Swiss Browns. Those things really stand out among a herd of mostly Holsteins.

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  68. Jax says:

    @Mimai: I’ve had two people drive out today and comment on my Oreo cows. They stick out like a sore thumb! 😛

    They’re just yearlings, so it’ll make it really easy to spot what the naughty teenager cows are doing (they’re in with 50 others, red and black). We put their brands on, gave them new hot pink tags with their names (Gwendolyn and Gertrude, of House Galloway), and turned them out. They all did a celebratory run around the pasture, practiced some dry humping in front of the bulls 500 yards away, and all is well with the world now.

    Cows, man. They drive sane people crazy, but provide a lot of laughter. 😉

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  69. Teve says:

    Wow. Ford says that if you buy the extended range version of the new electric F150, it can go 300 miles.

  70. Kurtz says:

    @dazedandconfused: @Mimai:

    Well, I, for one, always considered Herpes as a sign of virility.

    Eh, you live, you learn.