The Presidency Costs Taxpayers A Lot, But That’s Not Obama’s Fault
The Presidency costs taxpayers a lot of money, but that's been true for many, many years now.
Today’s outrage of the day is apparently the fact that the total cost of running the White House under the Obama Administration reached $1.4 billion:
Taxpayers spent $1.4 billion dollars on everything from staffing, housing, flying and entertaining President Obama and hisfamily last year, according to the author of a new book on taxpayer-funded presidential perks.
In comparison, British taxpayers spent just $57.8 million on the royal family.
Author Robert Keith Gray writes in “Presidential Perks Gone Royal” that Obama isn’t the only president to have taken advantage of the expensive trappings of his office. But the amount of money spent on the first family, he argues, has risen tremendously under the Obama administration and needs to be reined in.
Gray told The Daily Caller that the $1.4 billion spent on the Obama family last year is the “total cost of the presidency,” factoring the cost of the “biggest staff in history at the highest wages ever,” a 50 percent increase in the numbers of appointed czars and an Air Force One “running with the frequency of a scheduled air line.”
Gray doesn’t say where he came up with this number, but one presumes it comes from the Federal Budget. It’s a lot of money, of course, and it’s caused no small degree of outrage on conservative blogs. There’s just one problem, Gray’s assertion that costs associated with the Presidency have “tremendously” increased since Obama took office simply isn’t true.
To establish that, we need only look at a paper produced by the Brookings Institution’s Bradley Patterson [PDF] in which, in one chapter, he lays out the question of what it costs to run the White House. The first point Patterson notes is that this isn’t an easy question to answer:
What are the annual dollar costs, for a typical year, of operating the modern presidency—of running the White House, the whole White House? One of the reasons that question has never been answered (and perhaps never even asked) is because the pathway to the answer is so complicated. One may start with the tab “White House Office” in the annual congressional budget submission of the Executive Office of the President, but that is only an initial fraction. In addition, twenty-two other budget accounts, thirteen of them in other departments, or parts of departments, pay the expenses, and the salaries, of men and women who are in fact members of the White House staff family. Not only are those costs scattered through those twenty-two other budgets, but in at least nine of them the dollars are not in any fashion identified as White House. Realistic estimates have to be made
Patterson attempted to do that for the Fiscal Year 2008 budget and came up with a figure of $1,592,875,254. This does not include classified outlays for things such as Air Force One. One assumes that the figured that Gray came up with also omits these classified figures. The first thing that jumps out, of course, is that the cost that Patterson came up with for Fiscal Year 2008, when Bush was President, is more than the figure that Gray provides. Since we don’t know exactly how Gray calculated his figures, we can’t say that this ends the debate since he could have left off items that Patterson included, which would be odd since he seems to have started out with the assumption that the President dramatically increased the cost of the Presidency. Nonetheless, it seems rather obvious from comparing these two figures that the assertion that the costs to the taxpayer associated with the Presidency have increased “tremendously” under President Obama are, quite simply, wrong.
There is, perhaps, a decent argument to be made that our Presidents live in far too much luxury, and far too much of a pampered bubble of privilege. Things have been that way, however, for many decades now both because of the manner in which the increase in the power of the Presidency has lent the office a more regal air and because of the security bubble that has enveloped the Presidency and anyone associated in the wake of the Kennedy Assassination and the various assassination attempts that have taken place since then. These are legitimate issues worthy of discussion, but trying to frame this in a partisan manner simply doesn’t conform to the facts. We spend a lot of money on the Presidency, we have been doing that for quite a long time, and there’s no evidence at all that this is a phenomenon unique to the Obama Administration.
The cupboard is pretty bare for the Republicans. They really have nothing to run on, so a series of faux scandals is all they have left. It goes right alongside the “Obamaphones” as a last-ditch lie (these phones are provided by the telecoms and have been in place for 10 years) to try to perpetuate the racist meme of lazy blacks living off the government.
Over at LGF there’s an list identifying the cost of the Bush White House in 2008.
The total cost was $1.6 billion, $1.7 billion when adjusted for inflation.
In reality the outraged right wingers should praise Obama for cutting costs. $300 million less, that’s 18%….
We (collectively) piss and moan about this bulls*** all the time. It’s the cost of the modern presidency – we need to get over it.
@al-Ameda:
I’ve never heard that complaint until today, al-. Like I said in a previous post some months ago; I’ll be glad when we get ye ol’ White hand back in the WH, just so as not to listen to anymore of THIS BS.
@PJ: It’s all those brush clearing trips to TX.
The Royal Family also does less than the presidency in terms of governing.
I wonder if his figure includes the cost of private schooling for the Presidential kids. I’d wager British taxpayers pay for the education of the Royal Children.
Greetings:
What about moving mommie-in-law into the White House ??? Whose fault was that ???
“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” Chairman you know who said that.
The Windsors are also fab rich.
@11B40: I have no idea what that even means. Freeper slang doesn’t play well outside the bubble.
If you really think that her presence in the White House is costing taxpayers substantially and if you are really trying to use that quote to make a Mao/communist link, you’re even more deranged than you appear…you supposedly were in the military, right chief? Perhaps you were fragged or shelled in the head too many times…
@Tillman:
Not only that.
1-) It´s more expensive to keep the Chief of State of a large country, it´s more expensive to keep the chief of State of a Republic than of a Monarchy. It´s more expensive to move the President of the United States around the United States, a country larger than Europe. There are also the official visits to other countries, there are also the visits to places like Iraq and Afghanisthan, where servicemen are located).
2-) That´s not the real cost:
http://www.republic.org.uk/What%20we%20want/In%20depth/Royal%20finances/index.php
Most European monarchies lies about the costs of their Royal Families.
Is there a point to using an article from the Daily Caller as the basis for a thread?
Focus on the wrong things once again !
It’s not about what you spend, but about ROI – If it cost half the amount of money and he was only half as effective, it would have been a very sad deal! Getting the most out of the countries top dog – whoever it is! Is worth a lot of money.
Kind Regards
Mads
@bk: It will come up all week as evidence of the profligacy of the Obamas. Often within 10 words of the word ‘wookie”. Best to nip it in the bud ASAP.
In 2009, Snopes debunked the claim that Michelle Obama had an unprecedented number of staffers on her staff, turned out she has less people on staff than Laura Bush did.
The underlying animus here is that black people are presuming to have servants, rather than being servants.
I bet the Royal family pays its way for a lot of things as well.
I think the vast majority of the cost is tied up in security and demands by the secret service to make security easier for them and safer for everyone.
Security demands since 9-11 have increased and some of the costlier things are still necessary.
I don’t really blame the person in the white house for the costs. In many ways the president doesn’t have much say in how security is going to be applied when out and about.
I do think the president lives in a lot of luxury but some of that is due to security-it is much easier to protect the president on a private plane than it is to protect him or his family on a commercial plane.
I would like to see campaigns be required to do more reimbursing for trips made by candidates to raise money or campaign-especially to local cities and states who have to provide the extra security at extra cost from funds that they may not have.
What about this huge building project under the White House that is being kept secret? Some sort of shelter -from what ? Cost is billions of dollars and will take 4 years..Look at this information:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/white-house-big-dig-remai_n_1877484.html
Also, huge comet heading toward Ear, larger than the moon: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/comet-due-2013-could-brighter-full-moon-004852031.html
I do think the president lives in a lot of luxury but some of that is due to security-it is much easier to protect the president on a private plane than it is to protect him or his family on a commercial plane.
Air Force One also has sophisticated communications equipment that allows the president to use it as basically a substitute White House. This is why when he travels, AF1 goes as close as possible to his destination, minimizing the time spent in the Marine One helicopter and the limousine. One factor in particular is that the president can address the nation on television from AF1. If something were to happen that would require an immediate television address, the idea is that if the president isn’t in the White House he should be only a short distance away from AF1.
Hi Doug,
Is part of this sentence missing, or am I am still half asleep?
Are you saying the assertions are something, as a result of the comparison? Overblown? Overestimated? Unsupported? Misunderstood?
Robert
Yea that sentence needs to be fixed to make clear the assertions are wrong.
Perspective Datapoint: The figures Doug has provided us, mean that Barry and Michelle have cost 20 times more to support these last three and a half years than the whole of the Royal Family.
The same could be said of the Bush’s, Eric.
And in that case you’re comparing apples and oranges since costs such as maintaining royal castles are borne by the Royal Family, not the government.
“The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.” Chairman you know who said that.
Chairman Lao-Tzu?
Actually, I’ve never seen the complaint from the left on that point… given the inclination of the left toward complaining about anything they can as regards Bush and his administration, I find your claim highly suspect.
I do love the comparison with the royal family. That’s brilliant. Obviously our presidents should have a means of dispossessing various fractious barons of their estates (and heads) and then consolidating their riches using the power of the state so that their families could be fabulously rich when their heirs in turn become president.
I think if we want to update this system it would mean that Mr. Obama could simply take over the property owned by any of Mr. Romney’s campaign contributors in the event of a Romney loss. Some he could execute as traitors, some may simply pay ruinous fines and offer up daughters in marriage, and of course still others would escape to try and form rebel armies.
Then, we elect Ned Stark and Peter Dinklage as his Vice President.
@michael reynolds:
Really? How much are the Clintons worth these days? Have you even looked?
@Eric Florack:
Here
So, as you can see. . . or as most people can see, anyway. . . Bill Clinton became wealthy after leaving office. Unlike, say, both Bushes, Mr. Reagan and other presidents who probably could have afforded to pick up some of the costs.
Which, by the way, I would not have wanted them to do. Republican or Democrat, the costs of the POTUS is our responsibility as a nation, not the office-holder’s financial responsibility.
Surely Beldar has blogs where his bullshit is admired?
Most European Monarchies underestimate the costs of their royal families. They are fair more expensive than their official projections:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/king-size-costs-european-crisis-puts-new-spotlight-on-monarchies-spending/2012/08/23/073cdb78-e0cc-11e1-a19c-fcfa365396c8_story_1.html
Besides that, it´s more expensive to move around a President of a country that is as large as a continent, and that has to deal with all kinds of affairs all over the world. The Royal Family spends all their time around London. I don´t remember the Queen doing businesses trips, talking to the Chamber of Industries in São Paulo or something like that.
@ Florack
No doubt you can provide links to the many posts you made on your own blog about the expense of the Bush Presidency to the taxpayers. I am standing by.
The cost of flying the president around is far, far more than simply AF-1. There is virtually always a backup 747 for AF-1 in the event of mechanical failure of the current AF-1 that is stationed perhaps a few hours away from the destination of AF-1. There are anywhere from two to four transport aircraft, probably C-17s, that carry advanced parties of security and communications specialists to the destination, and their room and board costs, several vehicles for ground transport of the president and his security details, and further advanced parties if there are multiple legs to the trip, and even helicopters transported by air if thought necessary at the destinations.
It is easy to accept the security and communications used as a necessary part of the presidential party on official business. What is not so easy to accept is the use of all this to campaign for a second term or to support the campaigns of senators and representatives of the party in power, plus travelling to social events or the theater (with a political speech throw in as cover) and golf games around the nation and in foreign nations, or sending the First Lady and her entourage on some trumped up mission overseas.
The taxpayer is paying for the incumbent’s campaign in large measure, which is not a level playing field for the competition. This is true for Bush and Obama, and is a long-term trend towards an imperial presidency insofar as travel and campaigning is concerned. The taxpayer should be asking pointed questions of any president: “is this trip really necessary?”
Presidents should exercise restraint in using these travel perks to truly necessary trips.
@Eric Florack:
Oh, sweet, Jesus… <>
I hear this crap from all right wing talk shows but they neglect to say how much money billionaires are spending on their candidate to get elected. We know the reason they do too not to help the country but to help themselves.
What’s up with Florack’s pathological hatred of self made men like Clinton and Obama? That’s kind of the American dream – come from nowhere, make it to the top. But no, he despises them and patiently waits for a chance to lick the boots of the silver spoon crowd.
Reasonable. Should we compare the costs involved to say, Australia?
@Eric Florack: A country with almost a million fewer square miles? And the largest city on the northern coast of Australia is Darwin with less than 130,000 people? And on the west side of the country, the city with a sizable population is Perth with 1.8 million? After Perth, there’s Mandurah with 88,000?
@anjin-san:
We need a name for this syndrome, this weird need of guys living in trailers to give hand-jobs to billionaires. I just don’t get it. Do they think some crumbs will fall from the master’s table? From whence comes this insitinct to toady?
@Timothy Watson: True enough, but that would seem to require more in the way of transportation costs for government types, no?
@michael reynolds: So, do you know of anyone who has gotten a living wage job from a poor person?
@anjin-san: Can’t the lkeft do it’s own research? THey blame Bush for everything, and yet seemingly have not come up with such listings. Can it be that even they figure that the money involved won’t help their position?
@11B40: Confucius (not to the best of my knowledge chairman of anything) said it.