Sarah Palin Lambastes House GOP, Tells Republicans To “Fight Like Girls”

Sarah Palin was back speaking to a Tea Party crowd yesterday, but it just doesn't seem like matters anymore.

After several months where she seemed to limit her appearances to Fox News programs and closed venues, Sarah Palin was back on the public scene yesterday at a Tea Party rally in Madison, Wisconsin:

Sarah Palin unleashed a withering critique of congressional Republicans Saturday, lambasting them for not cutting spending deeper and faster, and saying the party needs to “fight like a girl.”

“We didn’t elect you just to rearrange the deck chairs on a sinking Titanic,” Palin said during a rally in front of the Wisconsin statehouse in Madison. “What we need from you, GOP, is to fight.” Pointing to the national champion University of Wisconsin women’s hockey team, Palin said the GOP could learn from its resolve and “needs to learn how to fight like a girl.”

Palin took issue with the GOP leadership for promising $100 billion in cuts from the current budget, trimming that pledge to $60 billion and finally settling for $38 billion in the recent budget battle.

“Then after some politics as usual and accounting gimmicks we found out — ya know that $38 billion? We’re actually borrowing that $38 billion,” Palin said. “That is not courage, that is capitulation.”

The former Alaska governor also painted President Barack Obama as unserious about cutting government spending. “Our president isn’t leading, he’s punting on this debt crisis,” Palin said. “Win the future? The only future he wants to win is his reelection.”

Palin also commented on the ongoing battles in Wisconsin over Governor Scott Walker’s efforts to reform public sector union contracts with the state:

Palin praised Walker for taking what she described as steps to make Wisconsin financially stable. Those steps include a law, now tied up in court, that curbs the collective bargaining power of public employees and spurred a series of demonstrations.

“He’s not trying to hurt union members,” Palin said of Wisconsin’s Republican governor. “Hey, folks, he’s trying to save your jobs and your pensions.”

Some people attending the rally carried anti-Walker signs. One, which made a reference to Palin leaving the Alaska governor’s post, said: “Scott: Pull a Palin – quit.”

Not surprisingly, Palin’s fans on the right are praising the speech and, if you watched (I’ve embedded it below if you’re interested) I suppose you can say that it was a pretty effective rally the base speech, but I’m beginning to think that Sarah Palin doesn’t really matter anymore. She’s got her core group of fans, and they’re going to be loyal to her to the end, but they represent a substantial minority of Americans as a whole, most of whom have a more unfavorable opinion now than when the 2008 Presidential Election ended. Even if she were to choose to run for President, current polling shows her trailing the leaders for the GOP nomination, and losing badly to President Obama in a head-to-head match-up. As I’ve noted many times before, nominating Palin would be a kamikaze mission for the GOP, and as Republicans start to look at they’re prospects seriously, it seems like they’re finally starting to realize that. Palin has, it seems, reached the point where she’s not going to recover from the stumbles she made over the past two years, most recently in the wake of the shootings in Tucson. Most importantly, when it comes to outrage, and celebrity, it’s pretty clear that Palin is being eclipsed by a head of orange hair from New York City.

As for Palin’s comments about the budget deal, it displays a stunning lack of seriousness about policy. Given the political realities involved, his was the right deal to make. Yea, it would’ve been nice to see deeper spending cuts, the fact that the GOP controls only one-half of one-third of the entities involved in the budget process means that they aren’t going to be able to do that. Additionally, it’s still not clear to me that the American public is ready for the kind of cuts that are needed to bring our fiscal house in order and return American government to the limitations set forth in Constitution. Finally it’s worth noting that we were talking about the final few months of FY2011 here and the opportunity for cuts in funding that hadn’t already been spent and/or committed wasn’t all that extensive. All Palin was doing was throwing raw meat to the Tea Party, not committing to any serious philosophy of how to act when the majority of the players in government don’t support your position.

It’s unclear if this speech represents the beginning of a new phase of public appearances for Palin, or whether she’ll once against retreat behind the safety of Facebook, Twitter, and Fox News. Whatever happens, though, it’s pretty clear from this speech that any chance she’s ever going to be anything other than a Tea Party cheerleader is pretty much out the window.

 

 

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Doug Mataconis
About Doug Mataconis
Doug Mataconis held a B.A. in Political Science from Rutgers University and J.D. from George Mason University School of Law. He joined the staff of OTB in May 2010 and contributed a staggering 16,483 posts before his retirement in January 2020. He passed far too young in July 2021.

Comments

  1. anjin-san says:

    As long as the checks are coming in, I doubt that she really cares if she is relevant in the big picture. Palin showed conclusively what she is about when she bailed on the people who elected her in Alaska.

  2. G.A.Phillips says:
  3. Yes, because I refuse to worship Saint Sarah of Wasilla, I hate all women.

    Truly pointless argument there, G.A.

  4. ponce says:

    “As long as the checks are coming in, I doubt that she really cares if she is relevant in the big picture.”

    There are still millions of rubes who see Palin as some kind of religious warrior/savior.

    I doubt she’ll ever have to stoop to opening shopping malls for a few hundred bucks.

  5. Wiley Stoner says:

    No Doug, you just hate that woman. If you had taken the time to listen to her speech, maybe you would have heard truth spoken for the first time. Had you watched, you would have noticed she put some notes down and gave a speech, looking at the people she was giving it to. No head twisting from side to side looking at teleprompters. For your information, according to CBS news, which we know is a friend of Sarah’s, over 25 million people have seen video of that speech. I think you are going to be sorely disappointed, disallusioned, and debunked come January 20, 2013 when the former Governor of Alaska is sworn in as President of the United States. Open that closed thing you call a mind, Doug, and listen to her speech then imagine that on the campaign trail.
    Anjin, you must have a really small unit.

  6. Wiley Stoner says:

    Ponce, why not try to defeat her arguement? You cannot. So you must attack the person. You are the rube, dude. Look how your boy is doing. 41% and falling. 19% think he is doing a very good job. That is affirmative action for you.

  7. Wiley Stoner says:

    Doug, when you promise to cut 100 billion dollars and that promise gets you elected, what part of that promise is it you do not get to keep? Oh. thats right, you are a lawyer. You have not morals.

  8. ponce says:

    “Ponce, why not try to defeat her arguement?”

    What argument is she making, Wiley?

    We should cut spending?

    That’s a hollow slogan, not an argument.

  9. michael reynolds says:

    Wiley Stoner is the very embodiment of a Palin follower: incoherent, ignorant and racist.

    And when we see what Palin is, and what her followers are, let’s remember, shall we, that Sarah Palin was brought to us by John McCain and the Republican Party establishment.

    Sarah Palin: who the GOP — and about 45% of the American people — wanted to put one heartbeat away from the oval. (Including Doug?)

  10. anjin-san says:

    Zels you never got back to me after I proved that Bush had indeed had quite a few “Czars” and that the GOP did not object to that in the least.

    Oh well, different day, different rant…

  11. Hey Norm says:

    Ms Palin is a pathological liar, and a quitter. No bias. No mysanthropy. Just fact.

  12. anjin-san says:

    Ms Palin is a pathological liar, and a quitter.

    All true, but Palin, like Michelle Bachmann, meets the only two requirements to be an iconic right wing female pol. She is not very bright, and she has kind of a hot “dirty over thirty” look going…

  13. Michael,

    Don’t blame me, I voted for Bob Barr

  14. G.A.Phillips says:

    I voted for Palin:) And might I remind Harry what we have one heartbeat away form the communal collage kid teleprompter….lol….

    Ms Palin is a pathological liar, and a quitter. No bias. No misanthropy. Just fact.

    Dude why? Obama is a pathological liar, and a quitter and a puppet…No misanthropy, lol, what the F…. Just fact….raspberry at you!!! Koolaider!!!!

  15. G.A.Phillips says:

    ha ha, sorry Doug, I withdraw my nomination of you and nominate ANJIN!!!!!!

  16. Hey Norm says:

    Ga Phillips throws down the “I know I am but so are you…nanny nanny boo boo” defense. Always effective.

  17. G.A.Phillips says:

    Yup, what you gonna do about it Libcom? Bust out some more of the crap they train you flying donkeys to parrot so I can ridicule you into oblivion with em?

  18. Janis Gore says:

    That’s a good photo of her. The camera loves her.

    Like a lot of us middle-aged, glasses wearing folks, she’s probably just squinting to see the back of the room, but she appears to see a bright future for America in the distance somewhere past the Democratic administration.

  19. An Interested Party says:

    Bust out some more of the crap they train you flying donkeys to parrot so I can ridicule you into oblivion with em?

    You poor child…the only person who gets ridiculed with the things you write is you…

  20. Terrye says:

    I don’t hate Palin, but I am not sure she is really in a position to go after Beohner. After all, she could have run for the Senate herself and then she could have been right there in DC fighting like a girl to do something other than move around those deck chairs..but she wasn’t.

  21. TG Chicago says:

    That’s a good photo of her. The camera loves her.

    I won’t deny that she’s good looking. No woman would get very far in the GOP otherwise.

    But the main thing I see in that photo is the jewel-encrusted American flag brooch. That thing is just awful.

  22. Ben Wolf says:

    The photo is reminiscent of Soviet art featuring Marx, Lenin and Stalin “looking toward the future”.

    Quite common for those enamoured of the cult of personality.

  23. Wiley Stoner says:

    She has more gravitas than Obama and like she said. She’s here and she’s clear. so get used to it. Can you imagine the telepromter in chief debating her? Obama has never really accomplished anything of substance all of his life. I do not believe he ever earned a dollar that did not come from the public sector. He is one of those dudes that got by with his mouth. Funny, but nobody who went to school with this guy has much to say about him. Guess if all you did was do coke and rap to women who think you are unique if you are far enough left you can get somewhere in politics. All Palin has to do to beat Obama in the election is point out the price of gasoline per gallon. If you think Obama can get reelected with a gallon of gas costing what it costs today, you are dreaming.

  24. Herb says:

    Like a lot of us middle-aged, glasses wearing folks, she’s probably just squinting to see the back of the room, but she appears to see a bright future for America in the distance somewhere past the Democratic administration.

    The real America? Or the other one?

  25. G.A.Phillips says:

    You poor child…the only person who gets ridiculed with the things you write is you…

    lol….

  26. ponce says:

    “She has more gravitas than Obama…”

    Really, Wiley?

    Then how to you explain her incredibly low poll numbers?

    Two thirds of Americans don’t consider her an acceptable choice for president.

  27. Janis Gore says:

    I’d say the one that wears garish American flag brooches, Herb.

  28. Michael Reynolds says:

    Fair enough Doug. Barr goes weird at times but he’s growing on me.

  29. G.A.Phillips says:

    After all, she could have run for the Senate herself and then she could have been right there in DC fighting like a girl to do something other than move around those deck chairs..but she wasn’t.

    She is pretty good at helping people get their election going.

    lol, almost went crude sexist liberal on that one….

  30. G.A.Phillips says:

    Don’t blame me, I voted for Bob Barr

    Ain’t you the one who is always crying about people supporting the wrong guy or WOMAN and screwing up elections?

  31. G.A.Phillips says:
  32. stacy says:

    Wake up America. We are sitting ducks. Don’t wait for Democrats to save the day. That is your job.

    “JOIN THE REVOLUTION­”
    Read “Common Sense 3.1” at ( http://www.revolu­tion2.osix­s.org )

    FIGHT THE CAUSE – NOT THE SYMPTOM
    We don’t have to live like this. “Spread the News”

  33. Douglas says:

    did you just attribute her polling negatives after the arizona shootings to PALIN and not to the lowlife pieces of crap who accused her of several acts of murder, rather than covering the story?

    When I was still a young man with a uniform, we used to call that “A Dick Move.”

    I agree, she shouldn’t run for president, but the way you did it was ADM.

  34. ponce says:

    “did you just attribute her polling negatives after the arizona shootings to PALIN”

    Palin’s poll numbers were plummeting long before Arizona, Douglas.

    And that was completely her own fault.

  35. Jay Tea says:

    One minor correction, Wiley:

    All Palin has to do to beat Obama in the election is point out the price of gasoline per gallon AND remind folks that Obama said we needed to get gas up to $5.00 a gallon…

    “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.”

    And in December 2008, Steven Chu said that Americans should pay the same price for gas that Europeans do — then around $5.50 a gallon, now over $8.00/gallon. He is currently Obama’s Energy Secretary.

    Of all the promises Obama’s made, why the hell does THIS one have to be one of the few he actually keeps?

    J.

  36. Hey Norm says:

    I see that the half-Govenor introduced herself as a former union member…because she had a temporary job 20 years ago that required her to join for the summer. She’s a former union member like she’s a hunter. Daddy can you reload my rifle?

  37. Hey Norm says:

    At least I don’t think she’s ever shot anyone in the face.

  38. Jay Tea says:

    So, Norm, your complaint is that Palin — a former union member — referred to herself as a former union member? And that she is a hunter, but not up to your standards?

    “Pathetic” doesn’t begin to cover it.

    J.

  39. Jay Dubbs says:

    Obama has never really accomplished anything of substance all of his life.

    So true, unless you count that getting elected President thing. But hey, 43 other guys did that too and there have been only 10 Governors of Alaska, so she’s got him beat there too.

  40. Jay Tea says:

    Yeah, Jay Dubbs, I will dismiss it. “Winning an election,” in and of itself, is pretty much meaningless. I am more impressed by what he did before the election, and what he has done in office.

    Elections are equivalent of speeches — “words, not deeds.”

    My favorite example of where Palin shines, and Obama fails miserably: standing up to corruption within their own party. Palin has a lengthy history of doing that; Obama has a lengthy history of turning blind eyes and “going along to get along.”

    It’s a character issue. It’s an integrity issue.

    Palin has it, Obama doesn’t.

    J.

  41. anjin-san says:

    It’s a character issue. It’s an integrity issue.

    RIght.

    I was talking to one of the most conservative people I know the other day. The topic of 2012 came up, and then Palin. His take was “She will never be elected President, she quit as Governor of Alaska to go for the money and everyone knows it”‘.

    Of course this guy is a Goldwater conservative, not a tea puppet…

    Hey Norm – I have also hear Palin talking about her experience as a CEO. Still scratching my head over that one.

  42. John425 says:

    Doug Mataconis–a flat earther and Ron Paul tool.

  43. Jay Tea says:

    anjin, your “friend” is half-right. She quit not to make money, but to keep some of your ideological compatriots from driving her and her top aides into bankruptcy, and to stop them from costing the state more millions. I’ve spelled it out too many times to repeat here, so I’ll just link.

    I understand you’ve put on your Clue-Resistant Glasses, so I won’t elaborate further. But I will also note that Palin spent her entire political career in executive offices, not legislative, while Obama had spent his entire career avoiding positions of actual responsibility, instead finding ways he could blend into the crowd.

    J.

  44. G.A.Phillips says:

    Man, why not cover the lawless vulgar ugly violent intimidating union thug rent a mob that was in Madison calling your favorite female punching bag a whore on Saturday, the same mob that was calling a 14 year girl speaker a whore and screaming f this and f that at her?

    All we ever get is bash Palin and lies about the tea party. And idiot liberal commentators backing you up as the few sane voices on this site are ignored by it’s authors because they want be considered in the know by let me see, liberals and atheists.

  45. mantis says:

    How do you know Jay Tea is lying? He’s typing.

    remind folks that Obama said we needed to get gas up to $5.00 a gallon…

    No, he didn’t. Even in the quote you supply, he didn’t say anything of the sort. He said electricity prices would go up under cap and trade because the industry would have to necesarily retrofit. It’s pretty clear.

    Of all the promises Obama’s made, why the hell does THIS one have to be one of the few he actually keeps?

    Wait, cap and trade passed? I must have missed it. Or maybe you just imagined it.

    “Pathetic” doesn’t begin to cover it.

    Likewise.

  46. Jay Tea says:

    mantis, let’s cut through the crap. Did Obama pledge to work for a program that would make energy prices “necessarily skyrocket?” Yes, he did.

    Did he pledge to bankrupt any company that tried to build a new coal power plant? Yes he did.

    Did Steven Chu call for “European” — level prices on gasoline? Yes, he did.

    Did Obama subsequently put Chu in a position where he could work quite effectively to bring that about? Yes, he did.

    Did Obama block offshore drilling and exploration off the US coast? Yes, he did.

    Did he extend financing to Brazil to help them drill for oil off their own shores, and promise that the US would be one of their bigger customers? Yes, he did.

    Maybe we can’t put his fingerprints on the current price of gas, but it’s certainly in full accord with his plans and intentions and desires — and those of people he’s put in positions of power.

    J.

  47. mantis says:

    Did Obama pledge to work for a program that would make energy prices “necessarily skyrocket?”

    Electricity prices, yes. Not gas. Under cap and trade. Cap and trade is not law.

    Did he pledge to bankrupt any company that tried to build a new coal power plant?

    No, he stated that under his cap and trade proposal, building new coal plants would bankrupt companies. He didn’t pledge to punitively punish coal producers for building new plants. Cap and trade is not law.

    Did Steven Chu call for “European” — level prices on gasoline?

    Yes, Chu said we’d have to get gas prices to European levels to spur innovation in new energy technologies and get consumers to buy efficient vehicles.

    Did Obama block offshore drilling and exploration off the US coast?

    No, he blocked new leases. There’s still plenty of drilling going on, and plenty of leases that are not being pursued. You may or may not remember the reason for this. It was kind of a big deal.

    Did he extend financing to Brazil to help them drill for oil off their own shores, and promise that the US would be one of their bigger customers?

    Yes, before BP’s negligence resulted in a trillion gallons of oil being dumped into the gulf and all over our shores. Remember that?

    Maybe we can’t put his fingerprints on the current price of gas,

    But you’ll claim it anyway, because you’re full of shit.

  48. G.A.Phillips says:
  49. anjin-san says:

    Jay… you have worked hard carrying Palin’s water. And since you are a serial liar, you are the right guy for the job. Birds of a feather and all that…

  50. DEO says:

    The Koch brothers sent her and she went skipping along…..a good drone.
    Snow Snooki.

  51. Jay Tea says:

    Yes, because I refuse to worship Saint Sarah of Wasilla, I hate all women.

    Truly pointless argument there, G.A.

    Sorry, Doug. Some of your bigger backers on this one have proclaimed that the only reason for anyone to criticize Obama is racism, so by extension the only reason to criticize Palin is sexism. That’s the side you’re on, so deal with it.

    anjin, “carrying water” for Palin is easy. All I have to do is speak the truth. It’s her obsessed critics that have the tough job — they have to constantly try to remember the latest talking points. For example, now she’s a puppet of the Kochs? How much effort do you have to keep track of which ideas are “operative,” and which have become “inoperative?”

    Actually, let me reconsider. The accusations never become “inoperative,” no matter how many times they’re disproven. Hating Palin means never having to admit you were talking out of your ass.

    J.

  52. mantis says:

    Some of your bigger backers on this one have proclaimed that the only reason for anyone to criticize Obama is racism

    Name one person who has claimed the only reason to criticize Obama is racism.

  53. anjin-san says:

    Sorry, Doug. Some of your bigger backers on this one have proclaimed that the only reason for anyone to criticize Obama is racism

    Really? Can you show us where?

    Of course not. Damn Jay, the average six year old does not make as much crap up as you do. Do you ever slam your nose in the door by accident?

  54. anjin-san says:

    All I have to do is speak the truth.

    The problem with that statement being that you are a known serial liar…

  55. Jay Tea says:

    Lee Ward anjin, please go introduce yourself to michael reynolds. He’s specifically who I had in mind when I said that. Although you were a close second.

    J.

  56. mantis says:

    He’s specifically who I had in mind when I said that. Although you were a close second.

    Back it up. When did either of them say the only reason to criticize Obama is racism?

  57. Jay Tea says:

    mantis, I’ll speak slowly. From what I’ve seen of michael, all critics of Obama are birthers, either overtly or secretly. All birthers are motivated by racism, as that is the only reason anyone would bring up the whole birther mess. Therefore, all critics of Obama are racists.

    You’ve even put me in the birther category, when I’ve put considerable energy into trying to shut them up and shut them down. But then, you let your “reasonable leftist” mask slip ages ago, and given free rein to your inner asshole, so I have to remind myself that trying to reason with you is a waste of effort.

    J.

  58. anjin-san says:

    Jay… in other words, you can’t back up your claim. Well, its hardly the first time that has happened, now is it?

    You have zero cred and zero respect in here skippy. From anyone.

  59. mantis says:

    From what I’ve seen of michael, all critics of Obama are birthers, either overtly or secretly.

    Back it up. Where has Michael claimed that all people (or any people) critical of Obama are birthers by virtue of their non-birther criticism.

    All birthers are motivated by racism, as that is the only reason anyone would bring up the whole birther mess.

    While it’s possible that Michael or someone else has claimed that all the birthers are motivated by racism, I’ve seen him say different as well. In any case, anyone who thinks there isn’t at least an element of racism in at least some of the birthers’ motivations is an idiot. But calling birthers racist is a far cry from claiming all criticism of Obama is motivated by racism. And you haven’t even shown that.

    Therefore, all critics of Obama are racists.

    A rule of logic: your premises must be sound. Yours are not.

    You’ve even put me in the birther category

    Yes, because you traffic in known birther lies, as I have explained to you many, many times, and you have repeatedly and steadfastly avoided explaining why you do so.

    when I’ve put considerable energy into trying to shut them up and shut them down.

    So that excuses you from repeating their lies, which are known to be lies? How so?

    But then, you let your “reasonable leftist” mask slip ages ago

    No, I stop being reasonable when those I am dealing with are unreasonable. You have proven yourself an unashamed liar, and you will repeat your lies even when they’ve been proven false. You’ve also shown yourself quite open to the idea of armed ideological revolt by the right. You are not a reasonable person, and as such you deserve no comity.

    and given free rein to your inner asshole,

    I was an asshole when I commented at Wizbang, buddy. Nothing’s changed there.

    so I have to remind myself that trying to reason with you repeatedly lying and expecting you to agree with me is a waste of effort

    FTFY

  60. An Interested Party says:

    …and given free rein to your inner asshole…

    I guess some are uncomfortable confronting people just like themselves…

  61. Jay Tea says:

    mantis, there’s a very simple explanation for why I “repeated the lies” of the birthers (your words, not mine) — because I don’t care about the minutiae of the arguments. I decided that getting that involved in the whole issue is a losing proposition.

    You are the “counter-birther;” you are as fixated on it as the birthers, but from the other side. And like the birthers, anyone who does not absolutely embrace your side is on the side of the enemy and must be destroyed. You’ve schooled yourself in the finest details of the issue as thoroughly as the whackjobs at WND, and you revel in the whole issue because you know that the longer and louder it is thrashed out, the better it is for Obama.

    When I (reluctantly) get into the finer details of the whole mess, I’m actually kinda proud when I get the details wrong — because it usually gets the nuts all frothing and hysterical about my errors.

    Sorry it took me this long to have all this bubble up to my conscious mind; it simply never occurred to me that the “counter-birthers” (or whatever you want to call yourself) are pretty much the same obsessive asshats as the actual birthers, just from the other side.

    J.

  62. anjin-san says:

    I’m actually kinda proud when I get the details wrong

    And this clown wonders why he, by his own admission, “has no life”…

  63. Jay Tea says:

    Stop making up shit, anjin.

    I’ve never “wondered why.” I know precisely why. I just haven’t bothered to go into too much detail for public consumption.

    You and wr ought to get together and write my biography. Here’s your introduction:

    The story you are about to read is utterly fictional. Any resemblance to Jay Tea is utterly coincidental.

    J.

  64. mantis says:

    mantis, there’s a very simple explanation for why I “repeated the lies” of the birthers (your words, not mine) — because I don’t care about the minutiae of the arguments.

    Thanks for admitting you are more than ok with repeating demonstrable falsehoods, and repeating them after they have been shown to be so. I don’t usually see people freely admit they are two bit hacks who don’t care about facts or accuracy. It’s refreshing.

    You are the “counter-birther;” you are as fixated on it as the birthers, but from the other side.

    I’m also a counter-Medicare destroyer, a counter-default-on-our-debts-and-destroy-the-economy, and on and on. It’s not my fault your side is f*cking insane. I fight the opponents that I have, not the opponents I wish I had.

    And like the birthers, anyone who does not absolutely embrace your side is on the side of the enemy and must be destroyed.

    How many people have I destroyed or attempted to destroy, Jay? I’m a nobody commenter on a political blog. I can’t destroy anybody, and am not trying.

    You’ve schooled yourself in the finest details of the issue as thoroughly as the whackjobs at WND, and

    Yes, I take the time to understand the arguments of my opponents, no matter how stupid (there’s nothing but stupid coming from the right these days, so there’s not much choice there), unlike you, who just makes up arguments to oppose.

    you revel in the whole issue because you know that the longer and louder it is thrashed out, the better it is for Obama.

    Untrue. I wish they would all disappear, as I’ve said before. It would raise the average IQ in this country by at least 20 points. I would much rather see Mitch Daniels, Gary Johnson, or a number of other Republicans get nominated for the party in 2012, so we can have an actual debate about the issues the country faces. We won’t, because the right is batshit insane. I find it very depressing, and do not revel in it at all. Thanks for peering into my soul there, though. You’ve shown you’re as bad at that as grasping reality.

    I’m actually kinda proud when I get the details wrong

    Some people find pride in strange places. You find it in being wrong. Revealing.

    Sorry it took me this long to have all this bubble up to my conscious mind; it simply never occurred to me that the “counter-birthers” (or whatever you want to call yourself) are pretty much the same obsessive asshats as the actual birthers, just from the other side.

    If the right stops supporting birthers, I’ll stop arguing with them. It’s just that easy. It’s not my fault your side has decided this is the biggest issue facing the country right now. It’s your psychotic rightwing world, pal, I’m just living in it.

  65. anjin-san says:

    You and wr ought to get together and write my biography. Here’s your introduction – Loser. Creep. End of story.

    FTFY