Father’s Day Forum

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James Joyner
About James Joyner
James Joyner is Professor and Department Head of Security Studies at Marine Corps University's Command and Staff College and a nonresident senior fellow at the Scowcroft Center for Strategy and Security at the Atlantic Council. He's a former Army officer and Desert Storm vet. Views expressed here are his own. Follow James on Twitter @DrJJoyner.

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  1. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Another Hallmark Holiday- Blech. I’ll pass.

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  2. James Joyner says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: This year’s festivities coincide with my youngest’s 9th birthday, so I’m definitely playing second fiddle today.

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  3. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Chris Matthews interviews author Jeff Sharlet on hardcore Trump supporters (7:31):
    ‘Magically protected’: Why hardcore Trump supporters won’t wear masks at rally

    “In trump’s tweets, some wear t-shirts that say “trump’s tweets matter”, in trump’s tweets every typo, every misspelling and especially the strange capitalizations are actually messages and you have to study them like scripture to understand the real meaning beneath the veneer of the bumbling buffoon.”

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  4. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @James Joyner: Heh, Happy Bday to your daughter. When I got separated from my wife we took a different route than most divorced parents. I knew the day meant a lot to her father while nothing at all to me, so she always had the boys that wkend and I went caving, which did have meaning for me.

    Have a Happy Father’s day anyway.

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  5. OzarkHillbilly says:

    The New Acropolis Museum was purpose-built to host the one thing every Greek government will always agree on: the Parthenon marbles being returned from London.

    On Saturday, as the four-storey edifice marked its 11th anniversary, Athens reinvigorated the cultural row calling the British Museum’s retention of the antiquities illegal and “contrary to any moral principle”.

    “Since September 2003 when construction work for the Acropolis Museum began, Greece has systematically demanded the return of the sculptures on display in the British Museum because they are the product of theft,” the country’s culture minister Lina Mendoni told the Greek newspaper Ta Nea.
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    For years, she said, the museum had argued that Athens had nowhere decent enough to display Phidias’ masterpieces, insisting that its stance was “in stark contrast” to the view of the UK public. In repeated polls, Britons have voiced support for the repatriation of the carvings, controversially removed from the Parthenon in 1802 at the behest of Lord Elgin, London’s ambassador to the Sublime Porte.

    “It is sad that one of the world’s largest and most important museums is still governed by outdated, colonialist views.”
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    The row was injected with renewed rancour when the British Museum’s director, Hartwig Fischer, described their removal from Greece as “a creative act”.
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    As a classicist with an avowed love for ancient Greece, Boris Johnson has often paid tribute to the soldier statesman’s mastery of governance “by the many, not the few”, placing a bust of Pericles – purchased from the British Museum’s gift shop – on his desk as soon as he moved into Downing Street.

    But the British prime minister remains an ardent supporter of the sculptures remaining in London contending they were “rescued, quite rightly, by Elgin”.

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  6. CSK says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Much as the same idiots would analyze the output of QAnon.

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  7. Teve says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    “In trump’s tweets, some wear t-shirts that say “trump’s tweets matter”, in trump’s tweets every typo, every misspelling and especially the strange capitalizations are actually messages and you have to study them like scripture to understand the real meaning beneath the veneer of the bumbling buffoon.”

    I had a customer tell me she didn’t need a mask because she was washed in the blood of Jesus. Since I like all the money I make, I said oh OK, and sanitized everything she touched as soon as she left.

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  8. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CSK: They come up in the conversation as a subset of the cultists. He also differentiates between the people who just voted for trump and the ones who travel the country in search of rallies like a Deadhead following Jerry Garcia.

    @Teve: You are a stronger man than I.

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  9. Joe says:

    @James Joyner:
    Happy birthday to her and happy Father’s Day to you. I get Father’s Day to myself, but share a birthday with my middle child. So I am second fiddle that day forever, which suits me fine.

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  10. Kathy says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    One time I wished my mom, on mother’s day, Happy Hallmark Card Day, and things didn’t go well.

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  11. de stijl says:

    @James Joyner:

    Happy birthday to your munchkin!

    Hope you have a great day.

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  12. Mister Bluster says:

    My dad was born on June 19th so there were several years that Fathers Day and his birthday coincided. I think us three kids each got him two neckties those years.
    He loved them!
    Wilmer A. Brown
    1916-2001
    RIP

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  13. Moosebreath says:

    Happy Father’s Day to James and all the other dads out there.

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  14. Mister Bluster says:

    NPR’s Scott Simon talks with former NPR host Michele Norris, whose grandma worked as a traveling Aunt Jemima, about the retirement of the character.
    “…my grandmother was doing work that was well-paid. And she was stepping on a stage that was available to her. And so she used this as a stepping stone toward a better life.”

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  15. CSK says:

    Happy Father’s Day to all fathers, and Happy Birthday to young Ms. Joyner.

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  16. de stijl says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I did a bit of spelunking. That’s overstating – people who knew what they doing allowed me to be a tourist and made sure I did not kill myself or them.

    I have done quite a bit of urban exploring which is absolutely fascinating. You need the right gear. Full body Tyvec suit, hard core boots, waders, etc.

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  17. Sleeping Dog says:

    @de stijl:

    Now stay out of those abandoned grain elevators. It’s a long way to the bottom.

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  18. Kathy says:

    In order not to clog the flop at Trump’s COVIDPPalooza 2020 thread, some observations on humor:

    Dangerfield’s humor was mean, really cruel, but it’s funny because he makes himself the object of the joke. If he had made the same jokes about someone else, I hope he would have flopped on a Trump on Tulsa scale.

    Rita Rudner is also rather mean in some of her jokes, particularly those about her husband (albeit not bordering on cruelty). But she also makes those same types of jokes about herself. And she employs a look of utter wide-eyed innocence on her delivery, too.

    I saw her act in Vegas back in 2009. I don’t recall ever laughing so much in 45 minutes. She made a few Vegas specific jokes. One I recall was a story about an emergency at the hospital, where “The heart surgeon wasn’t available, but they had a heart surgeon impersonator.”

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  19. CSK says:

    @Kathy:
    Joan Rivers said that Dangerfield was not a nice person off-stage, but that if he was performing, she’d race to get tickets because he was a comic genius.

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  20. Kingdaddy says:

    Woke up on Father’s Day feeling sick. Things that made me feel better:

    1. A long nap.

    2. The empty seats in the Oklahoma Center.

    3. The world-historical prank pulled by K-Pop fans and TikTok users.

    4. The following electoral college numbers, based on FiveThirtyEight’s averages of polls in each state:

    Biden = 340
    Trump = 150
    Unknown = 48

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  21. wr says:

    @de stijl: Hey, if you’re still looking for more three-sisters groups, you definitely need to check out The Roches. A little folkier than the others you mentioned, but some great songs. Check out “Hammond Song.”

    And I have to second your enthusiasm for The Regrettes — saw them at Coachella a couple years back and they were great. (Also saw Haim there a couple of times, and find them a lot livelier in person than on record. They pronounce it “Hime.”)

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  22. Teve says:

    “I told my wife, if you’d learn to cook we can get rid of the chef. She told me yeah well if you’d learn to make love we can get rid of the gardener.”

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  23. Kurtz says:

    @Teve:

    I had a customer tell me she didn’t need a mask because she was washed in the blood of Jesus. Since I like all the money I make, I said oh OK, and sanitized everything she touched as soon as she left.

    Were you afraid of Coronavirus or a Mary Magdalene STI from 2000 years ago?

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  24. Michael Cain says:

    It’s Fathers’ Day and I’ve been inundated with Dad Jokes. The best of the lot: My Dad was accused of illegally downloading all of Wikipedia. “Wait!” he said, “I can explain everything!”

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