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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter

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  1. Bill says:
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  3. JohnMcC says:

    @Bill: Good Morning again, Bill. Hope you’re well. Saw this headline and just knew we’d see you link to it. For those who don’t know, Ocala is 26 miles from The Villages.

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  4. JohnMcC says:

    @JohnMcC: A Florida note: I’ve noticed while watching sports-TV in the Tampa/StPete market that there are NO Trump commercials. D’s are pretty solidly present in every between-the-innings commercial break but no President. Are you seeing the same in South FL?

    Anyone in ‘battleground states’ have any observations on that topic? Frankly it’s puzzling unless the chaos in the Administration has gotten worse than bad.

  5. EddieInCA says:

    @JohnMcC:

    @JohnMcC: A Florida note: I’ve noticed while watching sports-TV in the Tampa/StPete market that there are NO Trump commercials. D’s are pretty solidly present in every between-the-innings commercial break but no President. Are you seeing the same in South FL?

    It’s all about analytics. My guess is you’re watching an event/channel that isn’t the demographic that the GOP is trying to reach. Turn to the local Fox station, or the local Sinclair station, and you’ll probably see some Trump ads. Trump’s campaign is not even trying to get independents or persuadable voters. They’re counting on, and hoping for, a turnout election where Trump’s base turns out more than the Dem base. So all the ads and messaging is targeting the base – old, white, evangelical, racists, xenophobes, and other assorted deplorables. Yes. I said it. Eff you if you don’t like it. It’s the truth.

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  6. Bob@Youngstown says:

    @Bill: because a mask prevents clear communications? What BS. Next I’d expect that 911 operators to ask if the caller is wearing a mask before asking ‘ what is your emergency?’

  7. Mikey says:

    In today’s New York Times:

    The True Coronavirus Toll in the U.S. Has Already Surpassed 200,000

    Across the United States, at least 200,000 more people have died than usual since March, according to a New York Times analysis of estimates from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. This is about 60,000 higher than the number of deaths that have been directly linked to the coronavirus.

    As the pandemic has moved south and west from its epicenter in New York City, so have the unusual patterns in deaths from all causes. That suggests that the official death counts may be substantially underestimating the overall effects of the virus, as people die from the virus as well as by other causes linked to the pandemic.

    The piece is well-researched and includes plenty of informative graphics that show, by region and by state, where and when excess deaths peaked.

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  8. Jen says:

    @JohnMcC: My guess is that the money problems are about to become acute. Also, traditionally speaking this used to be considered kind of early to put campaign ads up, but early voting/mail in voting’s prominence this year is scrambling some timetables.

    The Trump campaign had a reasonably substantial war chest built up, but some of the salaries they are paying are eye-popping. Their burn rate must be quite high. Add to that Parscale’s bias toward online advertising and they probably aren’t paying sufficient attention to higher-priced traditional media markets.

    This piece from the NYT goes into some of the oddities in Trump’s ad buys.

  9. Scott says:

    US Chamber of Commerce gently bashes the Executive Order on deferring payroll taxes:

    U.S. Chamber Letter to Secretary Mnuchin on Implementation of the Executive Order Deferring Payroll Tax Obligations in Light of the Ongoing COVID-19 Disaster

    This EO gives rise to significant questions about implementation. The Chamber appreciates recent reports that this EO will be optional but needs additional clarification about who elects this application. Further, there is uncertainty as to who is ultimately liable for the repayment of the deferred taxes, and when the repayment will be due and what mechanism will be used to collect that repayment.

    As taxpayers delve further into this EO, questions arise about how to apply this in other situations, such as where employees have fluctuating salaries or receive bonuses; where employees are employed for a short term, such as with seasonal holiday workers; and where employees leave employment prior to the end of the deferral period. The uncertainty raised by these issues, as well as myriad other issues not enumerated here, only exacerbates the challenges faced by payroll processors and compliance departments who are already struggling to implement this EO in an extremely short period of time.

    Not only is the payroll EO surrounded by uncertainty as to its application and implementation, it creates a substantial tax liability for employees at the end of the deferral period. As current law provides, this is a deferral of tax due, and without Congressional action to forgive the payroll tax, it threatens to impose serious hardships on employees who will face a large tax bill at the end of the deferral period.

    I guess the Chamber is not a fan. Plus it will cost money to implement the reprogramming in the complex payroll systems most companies use these days.

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  10. KM says:

    @Bill :
    So question to the lawyers out there: a police station is public property and deliberately open (at least part of it) to the public. What happens when someone seeking help from the police comes in and won’t take off the mask – either because they’re not dumb or because they’re too focused on getting help? Are they seriously going to tell someone they won’t do their jobs and to GTFO unless they risk themselves in what will be a plague hotspot shortly? What happens when an officer gets caught wearing a mask because shit got real for them – who do the union support?

    A great example of why Defund the Police is still getting people out into the street months later. This is not his little fiefdom to be run according to his personal / political beliefs. He’s endangering the public and his employees on a power trip.

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  11. Scott says:

    There may not be many participants at OTB who have direct participation in the opening up of schools (except perhaps our hosts) during this pandemic but the ramifications came home in a real way yesterday.

    My wife is a counselor at an elementary school here in San Antonio. I’ve been following the ups and downs of preparing the school to begin teaching starting Monday (virtually until after Labor Day, then parent will choose in-school or virtual).

    She has been physically working at the school, first with administration, and then, this week with the teachers. Well, she came home yesterday around 5pm with a sore throat and headache, no temperature. So we run through all the scenarios and procedures. She had went to the school nurse and consulted with her. We called the COVID Nurse advice line and gave the info. However, no advice to get tested. This morning no sore throat and she went to work. Hopefully, that will be the end of it.

    It is the uncertainty of it all that is most daunting. But the implications of what happens if a positive diagnosis is made is even more. Impacts the employer (school) and the family (which is wife, husband (me), two adult children) in ways that will have to be spun out. I’ll be interested in how the school system’s procedures react.

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  12. mattbernius says:

    Random thought of the day — I continue to wonder how much the Trump administration’s plans to “reinvent” the Post Office (into a much slower form of delivery) are absolutely going to screw the party base in these next few months (or longer if they win reelection).

    There’s anecdotal reporting of drugs no longer reaching through-the-mail subscribers on time. And, a significant portion of seniors still pay their bills through the mail (one study from 2017 puts it at approximately 40%). So if those mailings are delayed, will those folks be facing a lot of late fees?

    Also, does the social security administration still give people the option to recieve physical checks via mail?

  13. Mikey says:

    Charles Johnson
    @Green_Footballs
    I don’t mean to be rude, but aren’t you dead?

    Herman Cain
    @THEHermanCain
    · 17h
    Just in case you thought Biden’s candidacy was going to be anything other than completely nuts, team Trump has released a new video. #JoeBiden #KamalaHarris https://hermancain.com/new-trump-ad-h

    11:19 PM · Aug 12, 2020

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  14. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Bill: If I lived in Ocala, I would be feeling a powerful desire to go down to the cop shop with a news crew to file a complaint about something. Just to get their refusal to do their jobs on camera, and plaster it everywhere I could.

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  15. Jen says:

    @Mikey: I reported that account just a bit ago. They should not be using the named account of someone who is descended to spread their garbage propaganda.

    @Scott: I hope everything is okay and all remain healthy. But yeah, I have several friends who are teachers or who work in schools in other capacities, and the ramifications are daunting.

  16. Sleeping Dog says:

    Yesterday, someone posted a link to this Vanity Fair piece, that contained this gem.

    Trump has been fuming to aides about the coronavirus surge, lately blaming Florida governor Ron DeSantis for the exploding numbers. “He thinks Ron has made it a lot worse,” said a Republican who spoke to Trump about the Sunshine State.

    Which got me to thinking, when was Rich Lowry going to print his Nat’l Review apology and retraction for this.

    Probably never.

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  17. Teve says:

    @abbydphillips

    Trump saying clearly on Fox why he won’t fund USPS. “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots…But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting…”

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  18. Mikey says:

    @Sleeping Dog: “As much self-awareness as a dog licking its own ass in public,” as Jim Wright (blog-runner of Stonekettle Station) is fond of saying.

  19. CSK says:

    This is…queepy: Errr, creepy.
    http://www.thebulwark.com/qwazy-for-qanon/

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  20. CSK says:

    @Teve:
    Does Trump understand that a fair number of his constituents still use the USPS to pay their bills?

  21. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @mattbernius: Also, does the social security administration still give people the option to recieve physical checks via mail?

    No. Direct deposit or debit card.

  22. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Didn’t Trump pull the same stunt with Brian Kemp? Encourage him to re-open Georgia and then turn on Kemp when he did?

    This must be an example of what Trump means when he says he likes a chaotic work environment.

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  23. Jen says:

    @Jen:

    of someone who is descended

    *Deceased.* I meant someone who is deceased.

    My typing is horrible today!

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  24. Teve says:

    @CSK: and receive important medications.

  25. CSK says:

    @Teve:
    Many of which may be time-sensitive. Thanks for reminding me.

  26. Daryl and his brother Darryl says:

    @HarvardLaw
    Trump admits to intentionally hindering the ability to vote.

    “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots … But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting.”

    Why not file a Class-Action Lawsuit for violation of Civil Rights; hindering our ability, and thus our right, to vote. Millions would sign on. Millions.
    And because it would need to be expedited it would keep Barr busy and out of other trouble.

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  27. Michael Cain says:

    @Teve: The last time I had a dispute with the IRS, I seem to recall that official notifications and such could only by done by USPS.

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  28. Teve says:

    “AOC was a poor student … this is not even a smart person, other than she’s got a good line of stuff. I mean, she goes out and she yaps.” -DonaldTrump

    @AOC

    Let’s make a deal, Mr. President:

    You release your college transcript, I’ll release mine, and we’ll see who was the better student.

    Loser has to fund the Post Office.

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  29. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Jen: And here I thought that was a Freudian slip as in, “descended to Hell.”

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  30. Scott says:

    @Jen: Thanks. It’s funny but my wife’s and my greatest fear is not COVID (we are 55 and 66 respectively and in pretty good shape) but that one of our adult children may be the carriers and feel guilty about it all if something bad happened.

  31. JohnMcC says:

    @Jen: I jumped to the conclusion that you had some inside knowledge of Mr Cain’s eternal abode.

    Edit: I see our Missouri friend beat me to the misconception.

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  32. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CSK: It’s odd that Republicans, who pride themselves on their practical understanding of life—incentives matter, money doesn’t grow on trees, personal responsibility is essential to a well-ordered society—should display such a marked weakness for utter lunacy.

    She must be refferrring to some imaginary Republicans because it’s been a long time since any held themselves to -incentives matter, money doesn’t grow on trees, personal responsibility is essential to a well-ordered society—. Decades at least.

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  33. Teve says:

    Wonkette

    Having successfully ratfucked the post office to prevent timely delivery of mail-in ballots and create maximal chaos and distrust around remote voting, Republicans have now turned their attention to drop boxes for ballot collection. Because making it impossible to vote in urban areas is pretty much their only election strategy.

    Well, that and racism. They’re certainly not going to go out and enact policies that appeal to Americans!

    In Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign and RNC have filed a gobbledlygook lawsuit alleging that ballot drop boxes violate the Equal Protections Clause. ‘Cause, sure, fuckit, why not.

    In a 57-page recitation of the entire history of voting in Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign whines mightily about the unfairness of Governor Tom Wolfe and the state’s legislature, which broke with hundreds of years of tradition and passed a law to allow voting by mail. Like, how is that even legal?

    Naturally, the suit is as CRAZY EYES as every other Trump campaign product:

    keep reading

  34. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @JohnMcC: TBH, I actually thought Jen did it on purpose.

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  35. OzarkHillbilly says:
  36. Teve says:

    Eric Murphy the terrible thing about the Trump presidency isn’t Trump. It’s that he revealed that 30%+ of Americans will support fascism, given the chance.

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  37. Scott says:

    @Teve: The history of the pro-fascist movement in the 1930s and its support by the wealthy (think Fords, DuPonts) was very carefully buried after WWII.

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  38. Daryl and his brother Darryl says:

    He paid off Stormy to keep her quiet in the run-up to the 2016 election…an election finance violation.
    He colluded with Russia…over 200 incidents documented in the Mueller Report (not to mention obstruction).
    This go-round…he tried to get Ukraine to smear Biden…and was impeached for it.
    He is actively sabotaging the USPS in order to hinder people’s ability to vote.
    He is illegally coordinating with Kanye West in an attempt to bleed votes from Biden.
    And most certainly he is still benefiting from Russian efforts to aid in his re-election.

    Oh yeah…and he cheats at golf.

    It must be emasculating to know that you are completely incapable of competing without cheating.

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  39. Teve says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: uber was always a scam. Dara Khosrowshahi was brought in to try to get the stock to a certain level where the investors could cash out.

  40. EddieInCA says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Uber CEO threatens to halt service in California until November election

    Bye!

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  41. Teve says:

    @Scott: a long time ago I thought ‘what was wrong with the German people that they would allow that to happen’. Now I realize that there was nothing out of the ordinary with the German people. Millions of dumb assholes in this country would go right along with it.

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  42. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Mikey:

    giggle

    @CSK:

    He most certainly did.

    One thing none of the morons ever learn, is that if you are going to fawn at his feet there is always a bus waiting in the background.

  43. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Yeah, I was just musing over that very fact: that people never seem to understand that for Trump, loyalty is strictly a one-way street. You owe him everything, and when you’ve given it to him, he turns around and kicks you in the teeth.

    Trump seems to be getting more and more unhinged–badly so–as time goes on. Either he really is deteriorating at an accelerated clip, or he’s come to terms with the fact that he’s going to lose, so he feels free to say and tweet whatever he wants: “Vote for me! I’ll keep the suburbs white!” “I’ll wreck the post office so it can’t deliver mail-in ballots! Or your medicines or your checks or your bills!”

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  44. Scott says:

    @Daryl and his brother Darryl: @Teve: What we all forget is, that by focusing on Trump, we ignore all the willing accomplices over the last 3 1/2 years, whether it is White House staff, Pompeo, McConnell, Barr, and hundreds of burrowing termites undermining our government. They cannot be considered “Good Germans”, but part and parcel of the whole rot.

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  45. Sleeping Dog says:

    @CSK:

    This is likely optimistic, but I suspect that R’s are reaching a tipping point w/him. Few R’s in congress are speaking in support of his exec memos and orders and R governors are in opposition. The business community certainly isn’t interested carrying out the payroll tax suspension. As he treads closer to the edge of undeniable insanity they are putting distance between themselves and him. It’s is if R pols know they will take a beating in Nov, but know the eroding base still supports him. They have come to the point where they are deciding to take their lumps, get him out of there and start over.

  46. SC_Birdflyte says:

    Is it just me, or has it become a fetish with certain law enforcement personnel to wear military-style badges of rank on their shoulders (specifically, the Marion County, FL, sheriff)? To rise to 4-star rank in the armed services takes many years of service and beating out other candidates. Any yahoo can get elected as a sheriff, I guess.

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  47. Michael Reynolds says:

    @EddieInCA:
    I would venture a guess that 20% of Uber’s business is in California. If CA was the only problem area it would be suicide for Uber to cancel us. But it won’t just be California, other states and other countries will take similar positions. Uber will end up serving Nebraska.

  48. Moosebreath says:

    @Teve:

    “Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots…But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting…”

    Donald Trump — Saying the quiet parts out load since the 1980’s.

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  49. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    This strikes me as good sense rather than optimism.

    @Moosebreath:
    If there’s anything that ought to demonstrate to his base that Trump not only despises them but doesn’t care if they live or die it’s this: his plan to cut off their checks and medicine. Will it? Good question.

  50. Sleeping Dog says:

    @CSK:

    …good sense…

    Yeah, but we’re talking about Rs

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  51. reid says:

    @Daryl and his brother Darryl:

    He is actively sabotaging the USPS in order to hinder people’s ability to vote.

    He came right out and admitted as much this morning. How much more anti-democratic and anti-American can you get? This strikes at the most basic of our democratic principles. Will this be the red line that turns Republicans in Congress against him? Ha ha, of course not, they’re busy calling Harris the most liberal person ever.

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  52. CSK says:

    Bob Woodward has a new book on Trump coming out this September: Rage. It will contain “explosive scenes” dealing with Trump’s reaction to Covid-19, the BLM protests, and the economic disaster.

    Woodward also got hold of Trump’s “love letters” with Kim. Kim apparently informed Trump that their relationship was akin to one in “a fantasy film.”

    I’ll read this, but I’ll have to steel myself. Woodward’s first book about Trump, Fear, was scary enough.

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  53. gVOR08 says:

    @Daryl and his brother Darryl:

    It must be emasculating to know that you are completely incapable of competing without cheating

    Not at all. They think it’s clever and an element of their superiority.

  54. Bill says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    If I lived in Ocala, I would be feeling a powerful desire to go down to the cop shop with a news crew to file a complaint about something. Just to get their refusal to do their jobs on camera, and plaster it everywhere I could.

    My theory a television news crew wouldn’t do this is the media are afraid of the local police. They’d suffer some form of retaliation. Why else do the local South Florida newspapers keep on endorsing Ric Bradshaw for re-election as Palm Beach County when his office has a history of thuggery and covering up when police shootings occur? A George Floyd incident is probably the only thing that will change the media’s minds but at what cost.

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  55. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Yeah, you’re right. Maybe someday Trump will alienate his base sufficiently so that non-base Rs don’t have to be terrified of them.

    Probably not.

  56. gVOR08 says:

    @Teve:

    a long time ago I thought ‘what was wrong with the German people that they would allow that to happen’. Now I realize that there was nothing out of the ordinary with the German people.

    Psychologists invented the “A scale”, a pencil and paper questionnaire intended to identify individuals with an authoritarian tendency. The intent was to find out what it was about Germany that led to Hitler. Then they found no difference between Germans and Americans.

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  57. inhumans99 says:

    @Jen:

    At one point there was some genuine concern that the Trump/RNC War Chest of funds for the election was so massive that it would put D’s at a disadvantage right out of the gate when it came to reaching out to prospective voters (whether on-line, through tv, print media, etc.) but it was kind-of amazing how fast the gap in funds narrowed when Biden was formally announced as the D Presidential candidate.

    It is hard to “bury” your opponent with ads defining him well ahead of the election when your opponent has a nearly identically sized cash haul and can do the same to you.

    Let’s face it…Trump was obviously going to rely on rallies to do the heavy lifting of getting things like Sleepy Joe to stick in the general public’s’ minds and then a million commercials would air amplifying whatever he said at his rallies so that this is not happening really is giving Trump heartburn…he needs his rallies (what he really needed is another opponent named Clinton, but the rallies would have been a huge help towards his being able to define Biden and get his jabs at Biden to stick in the average voter’s head).

    It is telling that the GOP/RNC, and even Trump himself have stopped pushing the idea of getting rallies set-up for him, because Trump knows that even his most enthusiastic heinie kissers do not want to get within 100 ft of a group of Trump fans.

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  58. Bill says:

    I was at the oncololgist’s office much of the morning today. My cancer is stable for the moment.

    Today marks 12 years since I had repair of an ascending aortic aneurysm and heart valve replacement. Afterwards I was in the hospital for 16 days due to complications but I have no heart issues since.

    One of my two editors has advised me (While thanking me for a recent compensation for her editing) that my LGBT sci-fi Yakusa epic* is almost ready**. It is about 2,000 pages in length, so it makes James Clavell’s Noble House*** look like a short story. I have never published a story in parts or as a serial before but I may do it this time.

    *The one I have Robert Mueller in as an important minor character. DHCF is set between 2007 and 2011. Mueller was then FBI Director.
    **LA, my editor, says it may be done by weekend after next. Then I have to go back to double checking her and my work, plus make any plot fixes LA strongly advises if any are needed.
    ***- And DHCF is also partly set in Hong Kong just like Noble House.

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  59. KM says:

    @gVOR08 :

    Then they found no difference between Germans and Americans.

    Of course they didn’t. The world has indulged in a 75 year fantasy that Germany uniquely lost its mind for a brief period. Other tyrants and mass murderers have come and gone with similar public support but the German people get tarred as especially evil or at least weak to evil. America loved to lord it over the planet that THEY were the Beacon of Freedom and would NEVER allow such a man to rise to power….. now we see the Hilter’s generation isn’t even completely gone from this earth and we’re just as susceptible to that BS. We are just insanely lucky our blight is too self-centered and stupid to be able to do the kind of damage others have. We may not be so lucky next time…..

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  60. KM says:

    @Bill:
    Is congrats appropriate in this case? Best wishes for continued good health and inspiration!

  61. JohnMcC says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: Me too. Thought ‘now that’s a sense of humor as dry as vermouth’.

  62. Jen says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    @JohnMcC:

    I am indebted to you both for thinking I am that clever. 🙂

  63. Bill says:

    @Daryl and his brother Darryl:

    Oh yeah…and he cheats at golf.

    Didn’t you hear the possible explanation for George Washington having never told a lie? Here they are-

    1 GW never filed an income tax return
    2 GW never played golf

  64. JohnMcC says:

    @gVOR08: http://www.prisonexp.org

    That’s a website based on the 1971 Stanford prison experiment.

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  65. gVOR08 says:

    @Bill: The first article I saw on the Ocala sheriff mentioned that the county went 70% for Trump, would have been higher but the county’s 20% black. So the sheriff is just politicking. The article went on to opine that voting for sheriff is as dumb as voting for judges.

  66. Bill says:

    @CSK:

    Bob Woodward has a new book on Trump coming out this September: Rage.

    The author of this The New Republic might reply- Big Deal.

    There’s nothing you can do but sit back and wait it out. Stay tuned, but do nothing. This mindset has given rise to a peculiar subgenre of books on the Trump era: More or less disposable, they have come and gone on the New York Times bestseller list, each notching a few weeks before disappearing, resurfacing in a few months on the remainder table. The writing is characterized by a forgettable prose style occasionally punctuated by some kind of lofty, summative statement on history and/or truth or stirring calls to action. But rather than detail what that action might look like, they instead end up encouraging readers to do next to nothing. And as the last six months have finally revealed, the attitude that drove these books has left their audience largely helpless, left to the mercy of fate as history changed all around them.

    The rest of the article is worth reading.

    Full disclosure- I read Robert Woodward’s Fear.

    Oops- Here is a link to the article I quote above.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/158816/helpless-outrage-anti-trump-book

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  67. Michael Cain says:

    @Bill: As Wodehouse’s Oldest Member says, you can tell everything you need to know about a person’s character by watching them play golf.

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  68. CSK says:

    @Bill:
    Thanks for the link; that was an interesting piece.
    And my best for your continued health.

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  69. inhumans99 says:

    @mattbernius:

    This big headline worthy story about the USPS defunding should get its own post on OTB. Trump basically went on national tv and told his base that he is screwing them over because he wants to try to slow down mail-in ballots…wow. Kevin Drum basically asked the same question I am about to ask…whose ox does Trump think is being gored here? Not a rhetorical question because I am curious as to what the answer will be.

    When I almost obtained a job at the USPS late last year one of the things they note is that for a lot of folks in remote areas (which would be rural…I always get urban/rural confused, but my understanding is a good chunk of Trump’s base is from urban locales) contact with their USPS mail carrier is sometimes the only daily contact they have with the outside world. The USPS is much beloved by both Trump’s base and liberals in CA and NY.

    This is nuts…McConnell should be raging at Trump to back off destroying the USPS right now, literally as I am typing this out. It is insanity and will hasten the GOP’s demise if McConnell does not take steps to right this ship.

    Seriously, what Trump is doing is just nuts and the GOP should not be standing behind his actions at all.

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  70. Teve says:

    @inhumans99: the only thing the GOP cares about is power.

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  71. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: I absolutely despise those people.

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  72. inhumans99 says:

    @Teve:

    Yes, but if they still want to retain any last vestiges of power in November they better back off destroying the USPS. This is not simply an action that “owns the libs,” which is something I hate but understand why politicians get behind said actions.

    Destroying a 200 year old+ institution that is genuinely loved by both conservatives who are most likely to vote (the elderly) and liberals is just straight up dumb and shame on McConnell for letting things get to the point where they are now regarding USPS funding which should have been handled in the first round of Covid relief from 2-3 months back.

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  73. Sleeping Dog says:

    @inhumans99:

    Something few realize is that the Constitution provides only 2 mandates on the part of congress, one is to create a highway system and the other a postal system.

    One of these days, those red state senators will wake up and find their constituents outside the door with pitchforks because of the failure of the postal system.

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  74. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @gVOR08:

    Then they found no difference between Germans and Americans.

    I’m not inclined to believe that people oppose authoritarianism per se. They oppose being on the wrong side of the authority equation. It would be nice if we would oppose authoritarianism, but most of us don’t seem particularly wired that way.

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  75. Teve says:

    Prices have gone up, but just a few years ago Uber was losing $1 billion a quarter because the amount you paid for your ride only covered 40% of the cost, the rest was subsidized by investors. They sold investors on this bullshit idea that they would destroy all the other taxi companies and then be able to set whatever prices they wanted, but that didn’t work out. Uber was always a scam. “ We’re going to be the Amazon of ridesharing!” Yeah except Amazon lost all that money building out huge infrastructure that they can now charge out the wazoo for. If Amazon Web Services was its own company it would be a Fortune 500 business. Uber lost all that money just subsidizing rides. The whole gig economy is based on the premise, let’s outsource the costs of a business to the poor people who work for us. I knew a guy named Brandon in Gainesville Florida who drove for Uber for a while, and after a few months he calculated that he made about three dollars an hour, before wear and tear on his car.

  76. Teve says:

    i wonder if Rome had a version of the Republicans, a group that does not give a single shit about their countrymen but are only interested in accumulating power and wealth.

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  77. wr says:

    @EddieInCA: “Uber CEO threatens to halt service in California until November election”

    Of course most Uber drivers already also drive for Lyft. And unless the two companies are illegally conspiring to restrain trade, then there’s a good chance that Lyft is simply going to vacuum up every passenger dollar in California — and how many free and discounted rides will Uber have to give away to get them back?

    Uber seems to think that this is still 2015 and they’ve got all the power.

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  78. Teve says:

    Here’s a good sign, from two friends who live in Portland.

    Friend 1:

    yeah Biden/Harris isn’t your dream ticket. You know it’s not mine either. But you bet your ass I’m voting for them in November. Trump has got to go. Don’t let your wokeness prevent you from making what should be a pretty easy decision.

    friend 2, replying to Friend 1:

    I know you’re a “Bernie bro”, and so am I. Biden was at the bottom of my list when the primary began. But I am excited to cast my vote for him because he will be 100Xs better of a president than the current occupant of the White House.

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  79. CSK says:

    Dr. Fauci said today that temperature checks, particularly in the summer, are not reliable indicators of ovid-19, and that they have been abandoned at the White House and (I think) the NIH.

  80. Jen says:

    So, peace in the Middle East…desperate dictators and an under-fire Bibi wanting to give Trump a win, or is this a blind-squirrel-finding-a-nut situation?

  81. MarkedMan says:

    @Teve: I’m sure they did. I first observed this behavior with the big 3 American auto companies when they tanked in the 80’s and 90’s. Harvard Business School trained executives who cared only about rising to the top, spending way more time in C level politics and playing dirty tricks on their competition around the conference table and didn’t even think about the damage they were doing to their companies.

    In other words, the parasites start to consume the muscle mass and vital organs of the host. I suspect this is a natural outgrowth of very successful large entities.

  82. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: They must have. There is a Latin word for oligarchy.

  83. al Ameda says:

    @Bill:

    I was at the oncololgist’s office much of the morning today. My cancer is stable for the moment.
    Today marks 12 years since I had repair of an ascending aortic aneurysm and heart valve replacement. Afterwards I was in the hospital for 16 days due to complications but I have no heart issues since.

    Send all the good karma and best wishes I can muster.
    Keep on, Bill. Best.

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  84. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    I thought that Lou Holtz’s Normandy Beach bloviation was going to win the JSTFU Award for today, but this late entry has just edged him out of contention. Lost the original HuffPost linkchristian-parents-call-wisconsin-school-districts-face-mask-requirement-satanic

    And while you’re at it, go away, too.

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  85. Kathy says:

    @Teve:

    That would be the Optimates.

  86. Kathy says:

    @Jen:

    The UAE and the other Gulf Monarchies are far more worried about Iran.

  87. gVOR08 says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker: @Sleeping Dog: Our beloved Governor DeSantis /s said reopening schools was like the SEAL raid to kill bin Laden. I can’t find that anybody asked, as they also should have asked Holz, how many casualties he thought it was worth.