Friday’s Forum

Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter


  1. MarkedMan says:

    I just saw a headline that Musk says he will cut 75% of the staff when he buys Twitter. My immediate reaction is that this is some attempt to drive the banks away. There must be some clause that his offer to buy is contingent on his ability to get financing or something similar.

  2. Bob@Youngstown says:

    Pertinent to yesterday’s discussion on the geographic diversity of voting rules, possibly some of OTB’s Florida resident commentariat would answer a question about voting in Florida.
    When a body appears at a polling place, do the election workers consult a registration book (either printed or digital) to establish that you are eligible to vote at that polling place (or anywhere else)?
    Simple possession of a voter registration card, being easy to counterfeit, seems like a very sloppy way to ensure that voting is restricted to eligible voters only.

  3. Mu Yixiao says:

    More than a dozen schools in Wisconsin were victims of attempted “swatting”.

    MADISON, Wis. — Law enforcement agencies, including the FBI, investigated a flurry of false threats to schools in more than a dozen Wisconsin communities Thursday, eventually deeming them not credible and part of a larger “swatting” effort.

    Madison Metropolitan School District spokesperson Tim LeMonds confirmed with News 3 Now that someone called Dane County Dispatch at about 10:40 a.m. Thursday claiming a person had shot dozens of students at East High School in Madison. The call was similar to other calls received by law enforcement agencies across the state. In every case, there was no legitimate threat to the schools.

  4. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Richard Chambers

    “Are you concerned about the spillover effects for the economy (of British turmoil)?”

    “I don’t think they’re that consequential”, says Biden.

    Kelly O’Donnell
    President Biden responds to our questions today as he left for PA. He spoke about the sudden resignation of UK PM Liz Truss.

  5. JohnMc says:

    @Bob@Youngstown: uhFlorida voter here. When I get to head of the line, vote registration card not looked at by poll workers. (“It’s for your information.”) There is a printed master list (the ‘voter roll’) that has all the voters in that precinct.
    If yr name doesn’t appear I suppose you get to cast provisional ballot.

    No explanation how those folks who are charged w illegal voting got onto their county’s rolls.

  6. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @JohnMc: If I recall the news items correctly, at least SOME Floridians charged with illegal voting were former felons “mistakenly” told that they were eligible to vote by their counties, but I’m blurry on the details now and too lazy to look them up.

  7. Kurtz says:

    @JohnMc: @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    That’s my recollection as well.

  8. OzarkHillbilly says:

    ‘The army has nothing’: new Russian conscripts bemoan lack of supplies

    Vladimir’s story is far from unique. Across the country, newly mobilised men are buying up everything from thermal underwear to body armour as more evidence emerges that Russia’s undersupplied army has not been able to provide them with even the basics when they arrive at the front.

    On Telegram, dozens of discussion channels have sprung up in which the wives and sisters of mobilised men share advice on where to best buy body armour and clothing for their relatives before they depart to fight in Putin’s war in Ukraine.

    “From morning to evening, I scan the internet to find good deals for our boys,” said Anastasia, a member of the Help for Soldiers group, which is based in Russia’s Sverdlovsk region near the Ural mountains. Anastasia said that the local recruitment office in Sverdlovsk “strongly advised” the newly mobilised soldiers to bring their own gear, despite statements from the defence ministry that all mobilised soldiers will be dressed and equipped. For some Russians, the shortages in basic equipment feed the growing realisation that their military, lauded before the invasion as a world-class fighting force, has turned out to be painfully underprepared for the war.

    “It is bad enough that our men are being taken from us,” said Anastasia, a teacher from Bryansk, a Russian city less than 100 miles from the border with Ukraine. “We had to spend our monthly salary on my husband’s gear so that he at least has a chance to come back. Frankly, it is completely embarrassing. It is a mess,” she said.

    Paper tiger.

    In an intelligence briefing on Sunday, the UK Ministry of Defence said that “endemic corruption and poor logistics” remained a cause of Russia’s “poor performance” in Ukraine. The ministry said the average amount of personal equipment Russia was providing to its mobilised reservists was “almost certainly lower than the already poor provision of previously deployed troops”.

    “I am not at all surprised to see the mess that the army is in,” said Gleb Irisov, a former air force lieutenant who left the Russian military in 2020 and is now living in the US. “The army has always been deeply corrupt, and those issues were never properly addressed. They didn’t spend any money on the personnel while our seniors were becoming rich,“ he added.

    None of this should be a surprise.

  9. OzarkHillbilly says:
  10. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Louisiana trio imprisoned for 28 years freed after judge tosses murder convictions

    Long overdue:

    At an emotionally charged post-conviction hearing on Wednesday, prosecutors for the Orleans parish district attorney’s civil rights division presented evidence in court that linked the 1994 murder to disgraced former police officers Len Davis and Sammie Williams. Records revealed the pair were the first officers present at the scene of the shooting.

    Prosecutors also unveiled additional evidence of innocence, involving the testimony and credibility of the lone eyewitness to the shooting, which had been withheld from the defense at trial.

    Davis, who is currently on federal death row after being convicted on multiple civil rights charges, became a key target in an FBI undercover operation in the mid-90s as it emerged the patrolman was a lead enforcer in a protection racket for city drug dealers operated by corrupt police officers. During the investigation, Davis was recorded on a wiretap commissioning a hit on a woman named Kim Groves, who had filed a brutality complaint against his partner Williams. Groves was murdered less than two months after the Santinac killing.

    During the sentencing phase of Davis’s 1996 federal trial, Williams testified that the pair had also provided cover to their criminal associates who they knew had committed murders in the year Santinac and Groves were killed.

    On Wednesday, prosecutors told the court that Davis and Williams were the first to arrive on the scene of Santinac’s murder, just two minutes after the shooting and before any of the officers dispatched by 911 operators had arrived. This behavior, they argued, followed a pattern of covering up for the drug dealers they were providing protection for.

    “They [Davis and Williams] would go to the scene to make sure they [their criminal associates] were not caught,” said Emily Maw, the chief of the Orleans parish civil rights division. “They would arrive at the scene before the dispatched officers … Given the clear record of that, that came out only weeks after the defendants were tried in this case, it is clear to the state that this is a wrongful conviction.”
    “The state won a conviction against three teenagers that came from the actions of NOPD officers that we knew were actively contributing to the record homicide rate that the residents of this city were suffering through in 1994,” Maw added, as the three men watched proceedings over Zoom from Angola prison and members of their family wept in court.

    “The injustice in this case … is further compounded by the fact that for all these years these three defendants have cried out for someone to look into this case and no-one has.”

  11. Kathy says:

    It may be innate media sensationalism/scare story, but it’s beginning to look a lot like Boris.

    Though consider this line: “..supporters are calling on Johnson to return from holiday in the Dominican Republic and run again ..”


    Back in 69 CE, Vespasian fairly rushed from Judea to Rome in the Year of Four Emperors. Yes, he took months to get home, but information and travel were both slower back then. And he had been besieging Jerusalem when Nero improved the world by leaving it.

    Boris has no such excuse.

  12. Mister Bluster says:

    Bannon gets four months.
    A U.S. District judge also fined Bannon $6,500. But he ruled that Bannon will not have to serve the sentence until an expected appeal plays out.

  13. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Hours later, Truss was gone, but there was a sense among many Conservatives that the party’s troubles are only just beginning as it embarks on what could well be an utterly brutal rapid-fire race to discover who will inherit Truss’s policy poison chalice of spooked markets, spending cuts and endless broken promises.

    “There is no way the party will be able to agree on one candidate,” one MP said. “We are too far gone.”

    For some Tories, worse still was to come: the news that Boris Johnson might join the race. One MP was clear: “If he came back I would immediately defect to the Labour party.” There is, it would seem, much more still to come.

  14. Flat Earth Luddite says:

    Reason #2,435 why you don’t want me as a politician. I’d be inclined to look at the reporter and ask, “I don’t know, what do you think?”

  15. Flat Earth Luddite says:

    After making a break for it to get away from their abusive mother and her boyfriend in Texas, handcuffed and barefoot 16-year-old twins were turned away repeatedly by neighbors as they went door-to-door looking for help, before a Good Samaritan let them inside and summoned help, according to authorities.

    While my blood is up at these sad excuses for people, I’m disgusted by the neighbors who turned these two away, not knowing what to do. Really? FFFS, dudes, what part of let them in and call for help was a foreign language to you?

  16. wr says:

    @Kathy: “Though consider this line: “..supporters are calling on Johnson to return from holiday in the Dominican Republic and run again ..””

    I hope JohnSF will weigh in on this, but it seems to me that if the party sacks their PM because he was a lying scumbag — and announces to the country they’re doing it because he was a lying scumbag — then brings in someone so completely incompetent she loses to the lettuce and then brings back the guy they say is a lying scumbag because well why not… doesn’t that kind of send a message to everyone who is not a Tory insider that these are people who should not be trusted running a chips shop, let alone the government? Can’t even these horrible people see how bad this would look?

  17. Kathy says:

    @Flat Earth Luddite:

    FFFS, dudes, what part of let them in and call for help was a foreign language to you?

    But that’s socialism!

  18. Kathy says:


    I don’t think they care so much how it looks, as what they get out of supporting Boris.

    BTW, I wouldn’t trust them to scrape dog do off the sidewalk.

  19. CSK says:

    @wr: @Kathy:

    A sidelight here: Johnson is apparently trying to write a bio of Shakespeare, for which he’s missed three publishing deadlines since 2015.

  20. JohnSF says:

    Reposting from yesterday:
    Incidentally, if anyone is wondering where Johnson is to plot his possible comeback, turn out the lazy fat **** is on holiday, again.
    He was last seen in Westminster in July; has since been on holiday in Slovenia in late July, Greece in August (while he was still PM) Spain in September, a quick jaunt to Colorado, and then the Dominican Republic.
    Good to know his constituents are being well served with any problems an MP usually helps with.

    As said, he’s been looking like losing the next election in Uxbridge, so he really doesn’t give a ****.
    Reliably transactional, is Boris.
    Means if he does get back as leader, there’s going to be a kerfuffle arranging to parachute him into a safer seat.
    If such a thing as a safe Conservative seat exists any more.

  21. JohnSF says:

    @Flat Earth Luddite:
    There were reports that Treasury, Fed and IMF were seriously worried that the UK gilts spike could knock over some pension funds in the long for short swaps market (don’t ask me…), which would hit the banks financing said deals, and bank contagion could do the ole bank contagion tango again.

    Fortunately, current market state seems to be outside the danger zone, and Bank of England has supervised unwinding of positions.

  22. JohnSF says:

    Reports are that about a dozen will definitely resign the whip if Johnson wins.

    BUT: Must note only Mordaunt has officially declared so far.

    MPs public statements of support so far are :
    Sunak 84
    Johnson 48
    Mordaunt 21

    Question; how many of the Johnson declarations are just public, to get the local party loonies off their backs?

  23. JohnSF says:

    What they get out of Johnson:
    – some hope for office
    – some still see him as a “proven election winner”
    – a few are personally loyal
    – some ERG types consider him a “least worst” for some reason
    – a lot think supporting him in public will get the crazy ladies in the local party off their backs; would not surprise me if quite a few endorse in public, vote against in private.

  24. JohnSF says:

    From Henry Zeffman: a Labour source on Johnson.

    “In some sense, him running is the dream. Droning on about how they need a sensible, serious person to fix the mess they’ve made then that honking pudding turns up with his travelling circus trailing behind”

    Former Conservative leadership candidate Rory Stewart:

    Only a nation which was gripped by pessimistic despair and no longer believed that there could be a serious response to its unfolding tragedies would want to take refuge in the leadership of a clown.

    And I suspect Ian Dunt is a teensy bit peeved.
    Almost as much as I am, in fact.
    Deserves quoting at length.
    Stand back, it’s hot:

    The manoeuvres are happening in plain sight now. His loyalist phalanx are out in force: Nadine Dorries, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Paul Bristow, James Duddridge. Every dimwit and moral vacuum in the Conservative Party, biting at the leash. “I hope you enjoyed your holiday, boss,” the latter wrote, his sense of dignity leaking out his fucking ears. “Time to come back.”

    Initially it seemed Johnson couldn’t make the 100 MP threshold. That now looks too optimistic.
    The fact his name is even mentioned is proof of a deep sickness in the Conservative Party. Johnson is a poison. Anyone with the barest sense of national responsibility or moral seriousness would be appalled by the mere sight of it. The fact it is now a real project with a viable chance of success is enough to remove all faith in the human race.

    It’s the awful realisation that even after everything that’s happened, the idiot rot in the Tory party is so severe that it will drag us back to the most banal and inexplicable of all political scandals. We always end up going back to this childish tantrum in political form – degrading our judgement, our intellect and our seriousness as we go.

    … you can see the effect of Johnson on the British body politic: corruption. Pure and simple. A dissolution of the moral standing of institutions and individuals. He is like the acid blood in Alien: it splashes out indiscriminately, undermining the structural integrity of the political hull.

    It’s not enough to see their previous leader tank the British economy. It’s not enough to see the country reduced to the international status of some tucked away volatile republic, swapping out leaders every couple months.
    It’s not enough that the UK has been utterly humiliated, reduced to the status of a feudal serf in the face of global market demands.
    It’s not enough to turn us into a national clown car, careering deliberately towards every cliff it can find, no matter how distant or hard to reach.

    We might have to go through it all over again now, because a few Tory MPs think that Johnson might help them keep their seat. Grubby, obscene and despicable. A suicide note in place of a government.

    Look at where we find him, now that the public eye has swung suddenly and unexpectedly in his direction. On holiday in the Caribbean. Soaking up a bit of sun.
    Is Parliament in recess?
    Are his constituents happily dancing around, unaffected by the collapse of the British economy? No.
    He is there because he couldn’t give a good goddamn about the people he once governed or the party he once led. He’s a baby that claimed it was king.

    (His rivals offer at) least the possibility of relatively stable government during a period in which people face the kind of hardships we haven’t seen for years: a collapsing NHS, rising prices, war in Europe, industrial disputes, a state breaking down at multiple choke points, and spending cuts. They offer hope that Britain might be able to at least dress itself and function in the world rather than shit itself to death in the corner of a bedsit somewhere.

    If there is any decency left in the Conservative Party at all, any elementary sense of patriotism whatsoever, Johnson’s ambitions will die over the weekend. This is not a political matter anymore, or even a moral one. It is a question of the national interest.

  25. Mu Yixiao says:


    Could someone call the burn unit and tell them to expect a visitor?


  26. Kathy says:


    The fact it is now a real project with a viable chance of success is enough to remove all faith in the human race.

    He’s not wrong.

  27. Mister Bluster says:
  28. CSK says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    He’s been ordered to do so on November 14.

  29. Mister Bluster says:

    @CSK:..November 14.

    I believe the date is mentioned in the CNBC item at the link.

  30. CSK says:

    @Mister Bluster:
    Yes, I see. I missed that when I first read it. Do you think he’ll do it?

  31. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Flat Earth Luddite: Well sure, but coming up to a neighbor’s door shackled and asking for help doesn’t mean the same thing in notmyproblemese. Or whogivesa[slide whistle toot]ese, either.

  32. Kurtz says:

    This cracks me up. Even if you decide to just look at the photo, it’s worth a click.


  33. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @wr: You’re asking him that when people on this forum can’t agree that the people at the capital on January 6th weren’t insurrectionists? And that even people in the general population who will agree that they were are saying that they’ll vote for the insurrectionist in chief given the choice to in 2024? Party loyalty isn’t just a US thing.

  34. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker: typo/no edit: Line two in my comment should read “were” not “weren’t.”

  35. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @CSK: “He was last seen in Westminster in July; has since been on holiday in Slovenia in late July, Greece in August (while he was still PM) Spain in September, a quick jaunt to Colorado, and then the Dominican Republic.
    Good to know his constituents are being well served with any problems an MP usually helps with.”

    Doesn’t sound much like he’s working on a book to me. [eyeroll emoji]

  36. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @JohnSF: “in the long for short swaps market (don’t ask me…),”

    These types of “investments” remind me of a story (perhaps apocryphal, but from a reliable source IIRC) where the economist who won the Nobel Prize in Economics for describing a derivatives market answered a question about how one would make money investing in them with “I have no idea.”

    Don’t ask me, indeed! Don’t ask me, either. 😉

  37. Mister Bluster says:

    @CSK:..Do you think he’ll do it?

    This is Trump. I can only guess that he will try every roadblock at his disposal to delay, delay, delay.
    He gets the attention he craves if he shows up sooner or later or somehow dodges the invitation.
    Is there legal jeopardy if he shows up and takes the 5th at every question?
    Is there legal jeopardy if he refuses?
    All of it plays to his monstrous ego.
    I don’t know what he will do.

  38. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @JohnSF: As I was reading your Dunt quote, I was thinking that the words there could just as easily apply to the Republiqan party and to Trump, or Mitch McConnell for that matter. (Or most anybody else with (R) after their name.)

  39. Kathy says:


    Me, I’d have issued the subpoena and the referral to the DOJ for contempt of Congress at the same time.

  40. CSK says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    I agree. I also have the feeling he’s hoping for the Rs to take the House and Senate so he can run out the clock with appeals till the Jan 6 committee is disbanded.

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:
    Oh, I’m sure he takes the manuscript with him and works on it assiduously for 5-6 hours every day.

  41. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @CSK: Okay. As long as someone believes that…

  42. Kathy says:

    Yesterday I finished reading Soonish: Ten Emerging Technologies That’ll Improve and/or Ruin Everything by Kelly and Zach Weinersmith.

    It’s a mix of science/technology popularización and humor, rather similar to Randall Munroe’s style. This inevitably led me to begin reading Munroe’s latest “What If? 2”.

    Both are rather short books. I estimate finishing Munroe’s by next Tuesday at the latest.

    Along these lines, too, I very much recommend the Mr. Tompkins stories by George Gamow. These consist basically of low speed, macroscopic illustrations of relativity and quantum physics. Like, what if the speed of light were 15 mph.

  43. CSK says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    Publisher’s probably getting annoyed.

  44. grumpy realist says:

    @CSK: Especially since he supposedly already received a nice chunk of change as an advance for it.

  45. grumpy realist says:

    @Kathy: Another good book is The Strange Story of the Quantum. Was a Dover book, but I think it’s now out of print. It was the standard publication I would hand over to people who asked me “so what is this quantum stuff, anyway?”

  46. CSK says:

    @grumpy realist:

    “Lucrative” was the word used. I’m sure he’s aware he’ll have to give it back if he doesn’t produce a publishable manuscript.

  47. Kathy says:

    @grumpy realist:

    I think the first time I heard “quantum mechanics” was in chemistry class in junior high school. It was an adendum to atomic structure, and all I recall the textbook said was something like “energy only comes in discrete packets called quanta.”

    Turned out there’s a little bit more to it.

  48. Kurtz says:


    Former Conservative leadership candidate Rory Stewart:

    Only a nation which was gripped by pessimistic despair and no longer believed that there could be a serious response to its unfolding tragedies would want to take refuge in the leadership of a clown.

    Hmmm…well that seems familiar.

  49. Kurtz says:


    It’s a mix of science/technology popularización and humor, rather similar to Randall Munroe’s style. This inevitably led me to begin reading Munroe’s latest “What If? 2”.

    I just listened to an NPR segment with him. It was entertaining.

  50. Kurtz says:

    Any Niners fans here?

    Adding McCaffrey may put them at the top of the NFC. He’s one of the 3 or 4 unique backs in the league.

    Of course, Santa Clara is where RBs go to get injured and endure playoff losses due to poor Shanahan play calls in high leverage late game situations.

  51. JohnSF says:

    re. Johnson’s long un-awaited Shakespeare book, I’m reminded of the Richard Evans New Statesman review of his biography of Winston Churchill, by Richard Evans, Regius Professor Emeritus of History, University of Cambridge:

    The Churchill Factor: “One man who made history” by another who just makes it up…
    Reading Johnson’s The Churchill Factor is like “being harangued for hours by Bertie Wooster”

  52. Mu Yixiao says:

    As I walk away for the weekend, I would like to remind you all that people are good.


  53. Kathy says:

    @grumpy realist:

    You know what I can’t understand? “Out of print” books in this era of e-books.

  54. Gustopher says:

    @Kathy: Prepping an e-book isn’t a zero cost process. Tracking down the original, if it is in an electronic form, and converting it, along with some proofreading. Are there images? Fancy formatting?

    And then there is the case where your best alternative is to scan the pages of a physical copy and run OCR on them, restitch the text together, find chapter breaks, etc.

    (I do think we need a copyright reform where things revert to public domain after 5 years of out-of-print status, allowing anyone to do that if they think they can make money on it. Information need not be free, exactly, but it shouldn’t be locked in cages either.)

    (And then there are cases like Milan Kundera, who just doesn’t want eBooks of his work — although they will finally be released next year. The estate of Graham Greene was doing something similar, but they appear to have reversed course at some point. I get the whole “books should be paper” thing, but I’m old and need big, adjustable fonts and think accessibility should take priority to paper fetishes)

  55. Gustopher says:

    There are a bunch of books that I would like to revisit that aren’t available as ebooks.

    I mean, I’m sure that there isn’t a huge market for Ivo Andric’s work in English, but he did win a Nobel prize for literature.

    And one of my favorite books “Landscapes Painted With Tea,” by Milorad Pavic remains inaccessible.

    It’s possible that I would hate them now, and that this lack of ebooks just makes my life a little nicer. I have a favorite book that will never disappoint me.

  56. Kathy says:


    Granted. And some older science books may not be worth a penny to transfer to e-book (who’d want a popular biology book from the 50s? Other than for historical interest). But e-books require fewer resources than print. there’s no need for a press, ink, paper, etc. Therefore, a book that might sell a few copies a year forever, should be worth transferring.

    I know, too, there’s the matter of rights. I don’t know how long a publisher can keep publishing a given book and what rights the author retains, etc.

    My great hope for e-books (and for an earlier idea of books on demand), was that books wouldn’t go out of print any more, or rather out of publication these days.

  57. wr says:

    @Gustopher: “There are a bunch of books that I would like to revisit that aren’t available as ebooks.”

    For some reason, Robert Caro has refused an e-book release of The Power Broker, one of the great works of 20th century history, and one of the most unwieldy. His LBJ books are all available on Kindle, though.

  58. Mister Bluster says:

    Federal appeals court temporarily halts Biden’s student debt relief program
    The 8th Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday issued an order that prohibits the Biden administration from “discharging any student loan debt” under the relief program until it rules on an emergency request by Republican-led states to block the policy.
    10/21/2022 06:50 PM EDT

  59. wr says:

    @Kathy: “I know, too, there’s the matter of rights. I don’t know how long a publisher can keep publishing a given book and what rights the author retains, etc.”

    There are a lot of collections of 40s and 50s science fiction stories and novels, most having dozens of stories for a buck — somehow I don’t think they’re worrying about cutting royalty checks to rights-holders…

  60. JohnSF says:

    Let me talk to you, sometime, about correcting OCR of academic papers for digitised searchable storage.
    Footnotes, diagrams, formulae etc etc.

    Also, how much I hate the copyright vultures.
    But also, the pirates.
    But, above all, the academic journal publishers.
    Ah, my fervid dreams of the punishments I shall inflict, when I am God-Emperor of the Planet (wait yer damn turn, Elon)

  61. JohnSF says:

    Ever read Rainbows End by Vernor Vinge?
    If not, give it a go.
    The “digitisation via shredding” plotline is a brilliant sorta-joke.

  62. JohnSF says:

    And, latest UK opinion poll:
    LAB: 53% (= from 12 Oct)
    CON: 14% (-5)
    LDM: 11% (+3)
    GRN: 6% (=)
    SNP: 5% (-1)

  63. Kathy says:


    I’ve seen them, and I actually have a few.

    In fact, I’m missing one story. I forget the author or title. It’s about a soldier in the present who gets taken to the future to kill an awful dictator. he does, but he also steals a bottle of soda he takes back to his time. I’m sure it was on one of these SF collections, but I cant find it in any of them.

    It has the feel of an H. Beam Piper story, but it’s not in any of the Piper collections I have.

  64. Kathy says:


    Didn’t he write The Peace War? I read that one and the sequel.

  65. Mimai says:


    Haha! Methinks you stumbled into the wrong dive bar.

    Nevertheless, I trust you are mustard adorned, so there’s that.

  66. Mimai says:


    But, above all, the academic journal publishers.

    I’m an easygoing chap, but those bastards really are some bastardly bastards. May this one dream of yours come true.

  67. Just Another Ex-Republican says:

    @Kathy: What have you done to me?!?! I followed that link about Soonish and the page came up in Spanish. No big deal, I just closed my browser and opened Amazon…and it’s still in Spanish! Everything on the site.

    I’m sure I’ll figure it out, but damn, if I can’t order from Amazon I might have to leave the house and deal with real people, and nobody wants that.


  68. Kathy says:
  69. Kurtz says:


    Haha! Methinks you stumbled into the wrong dive bar.

    Nevertheless, I trust you are mustard adorned, so there’s that.

    I got kicked out quickly after trying and failing to use a barstool.

  70. JohnSF says:

    That’s him.
    Also worth reading, A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky