Tuesday’s Forum

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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter

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  1. MarkedMan says:

    Another thread yesterday had me thinking about how often engineers appear in TV and movies and how seldom there is any kind of realistic portrayal of what engineering is actually like. I can think of a few movies, though:
    -No Highway in the Sky
    -The Martian
    -Gravity
    -Hidden Figures

    Anyone have any others?

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  2. Scott says:

    So Musk bought Twitter. A lot of non business talk about it. So let’s ask this: Is it a good business decision. Decided to look at some numbers.

    Mind you, I don’t do this for a living but do have some understanding and familiarity about balance sheets.

    2021 operating loss of $493 million, or an operating margin of -10%, includes a one-time litigation-related net charge of $766 million1, as well as ongoing investments.

    2021 adjusted operating income, which excludes the one-time litigation-related net charge, was $273 million reflecting an adjusted operating margin of 5%. Operating income was $27 million in 2020, which includes a $150 million non-recurring expense related to an ongoing FTC matter in Q2 of 2020, representing an operating margin of 1%.

    For Q1’22, we expect:

    Total revenue to be between $1.17 billion and $1.27 billion.
    GAAP operating loss to be between $225 million and $175 million.

    Total Stockholder Equity: $7.3B

    Adjusted Free Cash Flow (FY21): -$379.4M

    A lot of talk about Non-GAAP numbers which seems to be a red flag to me as well as a lot of stock compensation numbers.

    All sounds shaky to me but will to hear what others think.

  3. Scott says:

    @MarkedMan: October Sky

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  4. Neil Hudelson says:

    Russia “thwarted” a false flag “terrorist attack” last night, disrupting a cell of 6 assassins who were coming to take out that sweaty frog person who is their version of Sean Hannity. The investigators found (unopened unused) Nazi t-shirts, a (green) disguise wig, a book with directions for their murdering inside, signed by “Unclear Description,” and a bunch of sim cards. I’m sorry, I mean a bunch of copies of the game The Sims.

    On a less funny note, Russia may be gearing up to invade Moldova.

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  5. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Scott:

    Another data point on the question: Is Twitter a good investment, is no other bidders came forward and the stockholders pressured the board to take Musk’s offer. Typically, when a company comes into play, other potential buyers emerge and the cost of the purchase go up. Reportedly, several investment firms have looked at Twitter, but none felt it was worth pursuing. On stockholder pressure, that shows that the owners had little or no confidence that a larger offer would emerge.

    Two ways to look at this; Elon, careful what you wish for or Musk is the dog that caught the car.

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  6. Sleeping Dog says:
  7. Michael Cain says:

    Multiple reports this AM that Ukraine is burning through Stinger and Javelin missiles faster than they can be built, and that some NATO members are getting concerned about the level of their remaining stock.

  8. Sleeping Dog says:

    Bad Behavior Drove a Referee Shortage. Covid Made It Worse.

    Over the last few weeks there have been a few top line posts that discuss a similar trend in our society as this article does.

    The 13-year-old soccer players in Cincinnati had been pulling at their opponents’ jerseys all game. Rhiana Garcia raised her flag again and again, signaling fouls. But a coach took issue with her officiating that October night in 2020.

    The insults he directed at Rhiana, who was 14 at the time, intensified throughout the match; she said that he had accused her of being colorblind and had shouted expletives and a racial slur at her. Before the final whistle blew, the coach had been kicked off the field. And Rhiana, holding back tears, texted her boss, “I don’t know if I can do this anymore.”

    Such unruly behavior is the driving force, referees say, behind a nationwide shortage of youth sports officials.

    The coach racially berated and yelled at a 14 yo? I’m sure he’s a good Christian.

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  9. Michael Cain says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    My initial belief continues to be that the difference is Musk owns an ISP with global reach, and is thinking about Twitter as a platform for a variety of other services for that network.

  10. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Eric Topol
    @EricTopol

    “We found that the choices made by people who forgo vaccination contribute disproportionately to risk among those who do get vaccinated.”
    https://cmaj.ca/content/194/16/E573

    Study: Impact of population mixing between vaccinated and unvaccinated subpopulations on infectious disease dynamics: implications for SARS-CoV-2 transmission

    Results: We found that the risk of infection was markedly higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people under all mixing assumptions. The contact-adjusted contribution of unvaccinated people to infection risk was disproportionate, with unvaccinated people contributing to infections among those who were vaccinated at a rate higher than would have been expected based on contact numbers alone. We found that as like-with-like mixing increased, attack rates among vaccinated people decreased from 15% to 10% (and increased from 62% to 79% among unvaccinated people), but the contact-adjusted contribution to risk among vaccinated people derived from contact with unvaccinated people increased.

    Interpretation: Although risk associated with avoiding vaccination during a virulent pandemic accrues chiefly to people who are unvaccinated, their choices affect risk of viral infection among those who are vaccinated in a manner that is disproportionate to the portion of unvaccinated people in the population.

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  11. MarkedMan says:

    @Scott: Excellent

  12. OzarkHillbilly says:

    ‘Let’s make a thriller out of this movie,” suggests Alexei Navalny to his director, Daniel Roher. “And then, if I am killed, you can make a boring movie of memory.” It’s typical of the man: for someone in a situation of such precarity, Navalny seemingly struggles to take anything too seriously. It’s clearly a defence mechanism – and in the circumstances, who can blame him? The alternative might involve surrendering to despair, and that would help no one.

    And anyway, Navalny has been living on the edge for long enough to be used to it. This startling, terrifying documentary (BBC Two) offers up a potted history of Navalny’s anti-Putin, pro-democracy activism. At times, he seems like a one-man opposition: equal parts politician, provocateur and investigative journalist. He’s not ideologically bound – in fact, there’s an interesting segment where Roher probes his brief, pragmatic-going-on-troubling alliance of convenience with the far right. But mainly, he’s portrayed in the mainstream Russian media as that most dreaded of things: a liberal.

    Navalny is very much a figure of his era. He namechecked The Wire and enjoyed social media discourse with its creator, David Simon. Much of his most successful work has involved exploiting social media and mobile filming technology, which is partly why his name has spread so far beyond Russia. For Navalny, social media is a weapon and a shield. When, for example, he and his wife, Yulia, board the plane that is returning them to Moscow, he is relieved rather than irritated to be greeted by a forest of filming phones. When you oppose a regime that shrouds its deeds in darkness, there cannot be too much light. But did Navalny overestimate the protection his fame – and people’s fascination with him – was offering? “As I became more famous, I was sure my life was becoming safer. Because it would become problematic for them to kill me.” He pauses for a moment before remarking wryly: “I was very wrong.”

    Sounds like must see TV to me.

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  13. RMR says:

    @Neil Hudelson: Yes, Moldova is such a tempting country for Putin, it has zero tanks and 6 old MIGs that haven’t flown since 1995 and are inoperable. It is even poorer than Ukraine and dependent on Putin’s gas, not a member of NATO, and won’t put up any resistance. If (and that’s a BIG if) Putin manages to get all the Black Sea coast, then it will be a walk in the park to roll through Moldova, south to north, and hit Western Ukraine from the back.

    Get this, the false flag attack for this potential blitzkrieg is plagiarized from Hitler’s casus belli against Poland in 1939, an attack on a radio station transmission tower in Transnistria that is used for Russian propaganda. First the “unclear signature” and SIMs games (rather than cards), then the blatant plagiarism, methinks this is a new way of passive resistance within Russia’s intelligence community, just make it so blatantly ridiculous that it would blow up in Putin’s face.

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  14. RMR says:

    @RMR: Oh forgot to mention, Putin’s top general in southern ukraine on Friday started blabbering about “persecution of ethnic Russians in Transnistria”. That’s the prototypical frozen conflict that Donbass separatists used as a model, but it has been frozen for 30 years and Moldova has made no attempt to regain control (not having any airforce or any tanks in its army, and only 5000 active trooops).

    Transnistria is 30% Moldovan, 30% Russian, and 30% Ukrainian, and 10% sundry other minorities. 30 years ago the Slavs ganged up together against the Moldovans, but in the past 8 years Ukrainians soured on Russians, but Russians kept control of Transnistria. It is a Mafia state whose main source of income is smuggling weapons and drugs, but there is some tacit cooperation with Moldova, if anything Ukraine’s closing of its borders is making Transnistria dependent again on Moldova.

    Transnistria’s Mafia leaders would rather avoid getting into any war, most of their weapons are rather old. They do have about 1500 actual Russian troops with officers appointed by Moscow (and local grunts) guarding the biggest ammo depot from Soviet times, with tens of thousands of tons of ammo. But probably 90% is well past its shelf life by now, so not actually useful. I don’t see any chance of this frozen conflict flaring up on its own, unless Putin pushes his way in, like he has in Donbass. Putin has shown already that he is all too willing to do the unthinkable, so I wouldn’t put anything past him, not even tactical nukes.

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  15. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Ron DeSantis signs bill to create Florida voter-fraud police force

    Careful Ron, If they investigate and prosecute actual voter fraud, it’s gonna cost you votes.

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  16. Kathy says:

    I’ve decided the following does not constitute a spoiler for Severance, but you may disagree, So proceed at your own risk.

    As noted before, a severed person gets divided into an innie work persona and an outie non work personal life. The thing is the outie has full control and reaps the rewards of the innie’s work. This makes sense insofar as the innie exists only at work, so therefore has no need for money or vacations.

    In essence, this is self-slavery. You’d become your own slave.

    The outie you wouldn’t be aware of the toil and effort at work. the innie you would be aware of nothing else.

    Of course, this gives the employer an army of slaves, eight hours a day every weekday.

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  17. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Before I went into the metaverse, I’d read a few articles on it and people didn’t have the nicest things to say. But I wanted to see if that was true, or whether people were just trying to find negativity. I’m a heavy user of social media, so a 3D virtual space where you can interact with other people – where artists are doing concerts and fashion houses are doing shows? That’s exciting to me!

    But within the first 10 minutes of putting on a VR headset and entering a chat room, I saw underage kids simulating oral sex on each other. I experienced sexual harassment, racism and rape jokes. At one point, I heard someone say “I like little girls from the age of nine to 12: that’s just my thing.”

    I came across one user who was spewing the most disgusting language I’ve ever heard in my life, to the point where we couldn’t even broadcast what he was saying. I’m talking extreme racism – hate speech, listing the kinds of people he hated, the kinds of people he wanted to kill. It was just so violent. And it all happened in a room I was able to access despite using a profile that I’d listed as being 13 years old.

    It got to the point that I was really starting to worry how bad it was making our documentary look. I was conscious we needed balance, so I found myself desperately trying to find good things to latch on to. But the bad stuff kept coming so thick and fast. I didn’t prompt any of it, I was just existing in that space.

    Just what musk wants twitter to be?

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  18. Jay L Gischer says:

    @MarkedMan

    I tend to lump science/math in with engineering, but here’s my list of films that put people from my world on the big screen:

    – Real Genius
    – Sneakers
    – War Games
    – Apollo 13
    – A Beautiful Mind

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  19. Beth says:

    @Jay L Gischer:

    Real Genius is a phenomenal movie. There was some sort of crazy DVD sale a little while ago and I made my partner get me, Real Genius, Weird Science, Big Trouble in Little China and Better Off Dead.

    As a bonus, I got accused of having terrible taste and a dirty look.

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  20. Kathy says:

    @MarkedMan:

    Another thread yesterday had me thinking about how often engineers appear in TV and movies and how seldom there is any kind of realistic portrayal of what engineering is actually like.

    IMO, it is seldom that movies or TV contain any realistic portrayal of what anything is like. And this includes things invented for a particular TV or movie.

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  21. Mu Yixiao says:

    Real Genius is great!

    “Is it the dream where you’re on a pyramid in sortof sun god robes and people are throwing little pickles at you?”

    “Are you peeing?”
    “…no.”
    “Why… Oh! Is it because I’m in here? Weird.”

    “Can you hammer a 6-inch nail into a board with your penis?”
    “… no.”
    “Girl’s gotta have standards.”

  22. Mu Yixiao says:

    @MarkedMan:

    What gets me is how often theatre is depicted wrong in TV and movies.

  23. Kurtz says:

    @Jay L Gischer: @Beth:

    Jam it!

    Big fan of Real Genius, Weird Science, and War Games.

  24. CSK says:

    @Beth:
    You seem to be feeling better. Are you out of the hospital?

  25. MarkedMan says:

    @RMR: I can’t speak to the mindset of the Moldovan people, but I can use Google Earth. Moldava is hilly and rugged. Not the best place to bring heavy armor through if there is a local resistance. Afghanistan comes to mind…

  26. MarkedMan says:

    @Jay L Gischer: I’m familiar with Apollo 13 and A Beautiful Mind, and while the former definitely shows real-world engineering, I don’t remember the latter actually dealing with math in a significant way. All I remember from Sneakers is when Robert Redford sat on the Cray Supercomputer in Ben Kingsley’s office. Haven’t seen Real Genius or War Games. What about them struck you as realistic?

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  27. MarkedMan says:

    @Kathy:

    IMO, it is seldom that movies or TV contain any realistic portrayal of what anything is like.

    That’s probably fair and also probably necessary to some degree for story telling. I remember some early video game experiments where the developers simply tried to make everything as “realistic” as a text adventure could be. The characters spent so much time finding food, cooking it, finding shelter, erecting it, etc that the games were unplayable.

    Still, science and engineering are usually just used as more or less a substitute for magic. The engineer/scientist has a brand new idea that none of the other scientists or engineers who have been working on the same problem for decades has ever had, despite it being fairly obvious. They make at most two attempts to make it work, it all comes together perfectly (except for that one little glitch that they have to physically scramble to prevent) and the day is miraculously saved.

  28. Sleeping Dog says:

    Trouble on Reedy Creek

    Much ado has been made about the legality of Florida’s Senate Bill 4C purporting to dissolve Disney’s Reedy Creek Improvement District: whether it was retaliation prohibited by the First Amendment, whether it was passed with sufficient formality, and so on. But there’s a much more basic reason Florida can’t dissolve Reedy Creek—it promised bond purchasers that it wouldn’t.

    With this law, the state of Florida has eliminated the government entity that backed the various bonds while violating its own explicit promise not to do so. It is hard to imagine a way that the state could successfully argue that this did not violate its own contractual obligations or unconstitutionally impair the contract between Reedy Creek and the bondholders. Florida could theoretically get rid of some of these contractual issues by writing a giant check to prepay or “redeem” the bonds, but that’s prevented by at least one of the outstanding bonds—2018’s utility revenue bond prohibits redemption until October of 2029.
    ——————————————-
    Conclusion
    Florida simply cannot promise to prospective bondholders that it won’t interfere with Reedy Creek, and then dissolve Reedy Creek. If Reedy Creek is ever dissolved, it would be a monumental and complicated enterprise even on a years-long timeline. The district has a nine-figure annual budget for expenditures, and even ignoring its various debts, it has a plethora of other contracts that somehow would have to be assigned to and divided between Orange and Osceola counties. However, the dissolution will have to wait until all of its bonds are paid in full.

    Life and poorly conceived and written legislation is full of unintended consequences.

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  29. MarkedMan says:

    @Mu Yixiao:

    What gets me is how often theatre is depicted wrong in TV and movies.

    Hah! Wouldn’t have expected that!

  30. Jay L Gischer says:

    @MarkedMan: For all the films on my list – and also, for instance, The Martian, what stands out is the characters.

    They look, sound, and behave like people I know from my world. That is rare for a film. That’s the thing about A Beautiful Mind – it’s a down-to-earth portrayal of top-tier mathematicians. And there’s a great scene where Nash describes game theory in terms of “which girl do you ask for a date?”

  31. Beth says:

    @CSK:

    No. I’m still here. I’ve been moved to the surgery wing and have a time slot to get this taken out. I feel like absolute garbage.

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  32. MarkedMan says:

    @Beth: FWIW, gall bladder surgery is to surgeons what the “Hello World” program is to programmers. It is usually fast and low risk, and so it is one of the first ones they learn.

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  33. CSK says:

    @Beth:
    Sorry to hear that you’re feeling lousy. You won’t miss the gall bladder, though.
    @MarkedMan:
    It’s practically all laparoscopic now, isn’t it?

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  34. Kathy says:

    @MarkedMan:

    That’s probably fair and also probably necessary to some degree for story telling.

    I should have added that myself. A movie realistically portraying, say, a sales job, would have no time for a story.

    Still, science and engineering are usually just used as more or less a substitute for magic.

    That’s pretty much the view many regular people have of science and engineering.

    I think there’s a problem now that many people seem to think stuff in lives does work as it does in the movies. I recall criticizing many of Benito’s proposed schemes as “unfortunately life is not an action movie.”

  35. Kathy says:

    @Beth:

    Look at the bright side: you’ll feel better some time after surgery.

    I was up and about and cooking just one week or ten days after the hernia surgery.

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  36. JohnSF says:

    @Beth:
    Hope you’re better soon. Best wishes.

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  37. Sleeping Dog says:

    @James post on Utah Dems backing the candidacy of Evan McMullin, raised the question on which party will he caucus with.

    Apparently neither.

    Evan McMullin’s U.S. Senate campaign spokesperson on Monday reiterated that if he were to become elected the independent candidate vying for incumbent Mike Lee’s seat would not caucus with the Republican or Democratic parties.

  38. RMR says:

    @MarkedMan:
    Moldova will only resist Russia if either
    1) it has a realistic chance of repelling them; so far it has no Javelins, nor much other anti-tank weapons; neighboring Romania could help covertly, but time is of the essence
    2) if they come to believe that being occupied by Putin’s army will lead to large numbers of rapes, murders, and looting (see Bucha), it might go down fighting anyway

    There doesn’t seem to be much time–just 2 hours ago the single bridge over the Dniester River, that separates Budjak, the SW corner of Ukraine from the rest of Ukraine was bombed by Putin’s planes. The only strategic value in doing that would be if Russia is prepared to have an amphibious landing in that SW corner of Ukraine. Which is very ethnically mixed with no outright majority, but most minorities speak Russian, which might lead Putin to think (wrongly) that they want to be “liberated” by him

    Details at
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budjak

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  39. MarkedMan says:

    @CSK:

    It’s practically all laparoscopic now, isn’t it?

    Hmm… Interesting question. I never met a surgeon that said they were working open for a cholecystectomy but, on the other hand, I worked for a company that made the laparoscopic instruments they used in the minimally invasive version, so they might not think to talk to me about it.

    OK, according to the NIH, 92% of gall bladders are done minimally invasive in the US, and the ones that aren’t are usuallly conversions. A conversion is when it starts laparoscopically and then the surgeon decides to go open. As far as I know the most common cause of conversion is unusual anatomy and the surgeon feels they can’t get an adequate view or feel from a scope. It doesn’t necessarily indicate a serious problem, as it isn’t unusual for people’s actual anatomy to be different than a textbook, with no harm.

    An open gall bladder is still a minor operation, but would leave a longer scar.

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  40. just nutha says:

    @Sleeping Dog: What’s the next step, now that he’s identified himself as the person NOT to vote for among voters who are aware and want their Congressional cohort to accomplish things? (I suppose that it’s possible that Dems would still vote for him as an obstructive force.)

  41. just nutha says:

    @just nutha: Follow up question: Are there enough Dem primary voters not alienated by having no candidate to overtly support and inclined to show up to throw the GQP primary to him?

  42. MarkedMan says:

    @just nutha: I’m suspect not caucusing with a party is not such a big deal. Given a tightly split, highly partisan Senate, his vote will be valuable quite often and therefore he will have leverage. I’m not sure he would get any more leverage by participating in various Republican or Democratic infighting.

  43. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Sleeping Dog: I am shocked, shocked I tell you!

    ETA seriously, that this was fubared from the gitgo is the least surprising news ever.

  44. Kathy says:

    @RMR:

    My concern is what do NATO and the EU do if Mad Vlad extends his war to one more country.

    I don’t see sending troops or conducting aerial warfare. Vlad’s nuke deterrent is still there. It might provide the push needed for several European countries to sanction Russian oil and gas.

    Past that, one can only hope Vlad doesn’t take it into his head to attack a NATO country, confident his deterrent will keep NATO from fulfilling Article V obligations.

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  45. JohnSF says:

    @RMR:
    An amphibious assault on the Bessarabian coast would be very risky indeed.
    It’s within range of the Neptune missiles based around Odesa, and if the British Harpoons have made it there, within their range also.
    There was also talk about possible supply of Brimstone shorter range missiles mounted on trucks.
    And some mention re. the Norwegian NSM; whether anything has actually happened on that front, I don’t know.

    Also, Ukraine could move units between the extreme south west coast and Odesa area via the Moldovan territory south of Olanesti without crossing Transnitrian “territory”, assuming Moldova agreed.

    There would also be a very high probability of Romanian volunteer forces turning up in Moldova if fighting with Russians began there. Highly combustible situation.

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  46. Kathy says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    What this implies is that vaccines do prevent Delta and Omicron infections, even if there are breakthrough cases as well.

    Therefore the anti-vaxxers keep driving up cases and providing SARS-CoV-2 a huge reservoir. At this rate, this pandemic will last decades.

  47. JohnSF says:

    @Kathy:
    Speaking of gas:
    Russia to Halt Gas to Poland on Wednesday in Major Escalation

    Poland seems confident that it can make it through until the Baltic Pipe from Norway comes online this October. (Possible linkage to new LNG terminals in the German North Sea also?)
    Vladdy also announces:
    “I remain the world’s greatest master of strategy! Derp!”

  48. Monala says:

    Great article in The Atlantic about Code for America, the organization Matt Bernius is a part of. Link

    ETA: I see Sleeping Dog beat me to it!

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  49. Mu Yixiao says:

    I just had an hour-long conversation with a former student (he stopped by the factory to pick up equipment he had repaired). The last time I saw him was 25 years ago. Not only did he still remember me, he was actually talking to someone about me yesterday.

    Feels kinda weird. I don’t feel like I’m old enough to have students who are now teachers.

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  50. Monala says:

    @Beth: here’s hoping you heal quickly and feel better soon.

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  51. grumpy realist says:

    @Beth: Once you have the surgery, you’ll be amazed how many people will tell you “oh, yeah, I had that as well…..” They’ll send you home with a prescription for a painkiller (my doctor gave me an anti-nausea drug as well which I don’t think I ever used) and will probably have you come back in a few weeks for a check-up on the healing.

  52. Sleeping Dog says:

    @Monala:

    Monala, you need to get up early in the morning to beat the Sleeping Dog 🙂

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  53. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Perhaps you should call yourself “Wide Awake Dog” or “Sleepless Dog.” 😀

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  54. grumpy realist says:

    @MarkedMan: The movie 2011 (sequel to 2001) actually had some really cool behind-the-scenes engineering developed for it. Somewhat back-of-the-envelope because we haven’t actually carried it out yet, but the aerobraking procedure to get into orbit around Jupiter is feasible.

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  55. senyordave says:

    Sometimes a headline just grabs you (the picture alone is priceline):
    Japanese man who married virtual character now on a mission to educate others about ‘fictosexuals’
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/japanese-man-married-virtual-character-204251344.html

  56. senyordave says:

    @senyordave: I meant to say “priceless”

  57. Gustopher says:

    @senyordave: who says romance is dead?

    Between that and the new Netflix show Heartstopper, I think we are in a golden age of romance.

    (Heartstopper is actually really, really good — an adorable, earnest queer teen romance where there’s no attempt to be edgy, sexualize children, wallow in hedonism, glorify drug use, or have a middle aged man marry a doll. It’s basically sweet but not cloying)

    (Sometimes I watch whatever Netflix tries to push on me)

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  58. gVOR08 says:

    @MarkedMan:

    Still, science and engineering are usually just used as more or less a substitute for magic.

    And speaking of magic, as an engineer I laugh every time I see Tony Stark’s magical 3D interface CAD (Computer Aided Design) machine.

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  59. CSK says:

    @senyordave:
    Is “fictosexual” a new name for “sex doll”?

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  60. Mister Bluster says:

    @grumpy realist:..The movie 2011 (sequel to 2001)

    I suspect you are thinking of 2010: The Year We Make Contact (1984)

    IMDb does list a film 2011 released in 2020.
    “The daily life of a night owl video editor working in his apartment, gradually slides into anxiety when a mysterious neighbor, whom he never meets, but whose presence is constantly felt, gradually torments his existence.”

    I never see my neighbors either but I like it that way.

  61. Liberal Capitalist says:

    @Beth:

    Been there… had it.

    I had turned SUCH a yellow color before I went in.

    In Denver, the surgery was done by robot. It seems that it is the thing to do now. (Yet I still was billed by everyone that stood around in the room.)

  62. Beth says:

    Thank you everyone for the kind support. I really helped me during a very scary time.

    So, around noon they told me I was on the board for surgery around 3:45 pm. 20 minutes later the came in and said I was going down NOW! I was in the middle of a real estate closing from my hospital bed. I ended up finishing signing the last documents from the OR staging area. Whatever anyone else says about lawyers, we are fundamentally crazy people.

    Anyway, the surgery was a success. The pain has become manageable, but the gross feeling of something being wrong and the inability to eat while also being starving was worse. Thankfully that’s all gone. I’ve just got some minor pain in my abs, but my guts feel fine.

    I ate some dinner and then they released me. It’s great to be home.

    Thank you so much everyone.

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  63. @Beth: Excellent news! Here’s to a speedy recovery!

    And congrats on closing on a new house!

  64. just nutha says:

    @senyordave: Longview School district blocked my access to the article on my desk computer. 🙁