Videos have gone viral on social media in recent years showing a vulnerability in millions of Kias and Hyundais that allows them to be hot-wired with a common household USB cable, and there’ve been dozens of victims in South Florida — two as recently as this week in Fort Lauderdale.
The videos began circulating on TikTok and other social media platforms in 2021, referred to as the “Kia Boys” or “Kia Boyz” challenge, and rapidly spread into 2022. The thefts, largely perpetrated by teens, became a nationwide problem, leading the manufacturers to develop a new theft-deterrent software early last year to address the growing issue and to a class-action lawsuit filed against the companies.
Despite the development of the anti-theft software, some Kia and Hyundai owners are still falling victim to the crimes. The Associated Press reported in May 2023 that some police agencies were still reporting thefts three months after the new development.
Elliot Carver: Mr. Jones, are we ready to release our new software?
Jones: Yes, sir. As requested, it’s full of bugs, which means people will be forced to upgrade for years.
Elliot Carver: Outstanding.
MOSCOW — Over the first eight days of December, civilian Russian airplanes experienced at least eight serious mechanical failures, terrifying many passengers as pilots were forced to make emergency landings in cities across the country.
The incidents did not kill anyone, but they illustrate the rising peril of air travel in Russia. Nearly two years of sanctions over the war in Ukraine have left airlines struggling to obtain vital spare parts and, as a result, shortcutting safety standards — in some cases with government approval.
On Dec. 8, S7 Airlines passengers heard loud bangs when their Boeing 737 took off from Novosibirsk for Moscow, as both of the plane’s engines surged and spat flames, Russian media reported.
The same day, a Rossiya Airlines Airbus A319 flying to St. Petersburg lost cabin pressure and began to fall from the sky shortly after takeoff from Mineralnye Vody. The pilots made an emergency landing, Russian Telegram channels reported, and video from inside the cabin showed passengers screaming and crying as oxygen masks deployed from the ceiling.
On Dec. 11, a Utair flight made an emergency landing because of a wing flap failure while carrying 104 passengers and 42 pounds of a radioactive substance, Russian media reported. A Utair plane flying from Moscow to Kogalym in the Khanty-Mansi region of Siberia signaled an emergency because of engine failure on Dec. 29.
Also in December, Russia’s main carrier, Aeroflot, experienced a string of emergencies: an Airbus A321 with left engine failure; another Airbus 321 with an air conditioning problem; two Boeing 737s with landing gear failures; a Boeing 737 with a wing flap failure; and a Boeing 777 with smoke in the cabin due to a short circuit. Multiple other failures led to long delays and stranded passengers.
Other airlines have experienced severe engine vibrations, sudden engine shutdowns, and failures with hydraulic systems, wing flaps, steering systems, autopilot and oil filters, among other problems.
After President Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine in 2022, Western nations put sanctions on Russian aviation, banning the transfer of technology and spare parts, as well as servicing, insurance or software updates for Russia’s large fleet of Western planes.
Flying in Russia is unsafe. Isn’t that a water is wet headline. It has been a risky endeavor to fly in either Russia or Soviet Union and for a long time. Aeroflot was involved in over 700 incidents between 1946 and 1989 and that doesn’t count infamous crashes like this one where children were allowed to fly the plane.
@Bill Jempty: The manufacturer has fixed the defect, but it requires the car’s owner to bring the car to the dealership for a free software upgrade. There’s any number of reasons why a lot of Americans wouldn’t do this right away.
The manufacturer has fixed the defect, but it requires the car’s owner to bring the car to the dealership for a free software upgrade. There’s any number of reasons why a lot of Americans wouldn’t do this right away.
See TND is right. You have to get the software update and while that happens have to endure 3 day old donuts and coffee so strong it will make hair grow on your nose.
@Mikey: Yep. Full time work and full time caregiving, plus the probability that my 2014 Kia Soul will be the one nabbed on any given day. I mean, if it gets stolen and my insurance company gives me the down payment on a new car as a payout, is it really the worst thing in the world?
@Mikey: Hmmm, software update? How will the thieves know you have a software update and so won’t bother smashing your window and wrecking your steering column? What’s been happening is that people are taking it as a TikTok dare. They steal a car and then drive it around like maniacs crashing into things. For the most part it’s not to sell it for parts or anything like that.
Good morning to all my snowed-in friends (and you lucky people with freedom of movement)!
Had my surgery and ran into some complications. Turns out I had stage 4 endometriosis on top of the masses and they had to remove quite a bit more then they anticipated because of the attached tissues. My sister reported the surgeon called the growths “gnarly”, that I had been walking around with “cement” in my gut for years they were shocked I could move with and because it ended up being more invasive then expected, I lost 2 units of blood before they could get it under control.
So long story short: am short more organs then expected but my god do I feel sooooo much better! I can move and breathe in ways I haven’t in years and if I wasn’t held together with glue, I’d be out digging through the 3ft of snow in a heartbeat.
Finally gave in and made the GoFundMe now the bills has started coming in. Since the surgery was more invasive and required a stay, it’s now costing a fortune. Does anyone mind me posting it here? I’ve never done it before so have no idea how to get the word out
You’ve heard me taking about the dangers of Generative AI before, and how I feel it will ruin a large part of the internet. Here’s, well, not an example put a prediction. This morning I was searching for this quote about the old days of skiing from Ernest Hemingway, “Anything you ran down from, you had to climb up to first, and you could run down only as often as you could climb up… ” After some searching, I did find it, but it wasn’t at a big site, or one I was familiar with. I immediately asked myself if I had really found it, or was it a Generative AI site presenting what I was looking for, even though I had misremembered it. I looked around the site and it appeared legit, but will I be able to tell in a couple of years?
9 degrees in Memphis this morning. Wind chill has us at -4.
Geese are walking across the lake. We had about 6 inches of snow fall and it’s not going anywhere for a while. We’re hoping to get down to the grocery store tomorrow before a mix of freezing rain and snow on Thursday.
My six year old granddaughter is over the moon. Her first good sledding experience and Mom made snow ice cream!
Poor little girl was so worried there would be no snow this year. Her teacher told her class that if they wear their clothes inside out it will snow really hard. She dutifully complied and got her wish. I don’t know if she’ll ever wear her clothes right side out the rest of winter.
OK, here goes. Even if you can’t contribute (no worries, still love you all) you can see my beautiful dog’s face as she checks out recovery flowers sent from work!
Good news from medical world. Cancer mortality rates are improving and the gap between black and white mortality is narrowing, dropping from 26% higher to 12% higher. In my mind this is a decent example of what should be meant by systemic racism. The kind of racism where providers would refuse to treat minorities or treat them differently due to their race is mostly, not entirely, gone. However, there still exist lots of policies, rules and investments that either favor the majority, white people, or make it more difficult for minorities, especially black people.
“Age-adjusted mortality rates are presented in Figure 1 by race and ethnicity, sex, and cancer type. In 2000, the rate was 251.7 per 100 000 population among Black individuals and 199.7 per 100 000 population among White individuals, decreasing to 166.8 per 100 000 population (AAPC, −2.04% [95% CI, –2.07% to –2.00%]) and 149.3 per 100 000 population (AAPC, −1.44% [95% CI, –1.48% to –1.39%]), respectively, by 2020 (P < .001 for trend). Between 2000 and 2020, declines in cancer mortality were observed for each cancer type for both groups. However, Black individuals consistently experienced higher mortality than White individuals for all cancers except female lung and bronchus."
@MarkedMan: As part of the update, they add stickers to the front side windows showing that the vehicle’s been updated and is not longer vulnerable to the USB hack. Will it deter everyone? No. But it will probably deter at least some.
9 degrees in Memphis this morning. Wind chill has us at -4.
Mobile AL had freezing rain, Pensacola has a chance of snow flurries.
We took the malamute for a jog this morning in Gulf Breeze, FL and there was graupel. They don’t even KNOW that word here to describe that ice stuff falling from the sky.
Today is our last day to pack and prep before we head off to Colorado.
Great. He filed a lawsuit he’s going to lose, and he’s going to have to pay her legal bills after she wins the bogus lawsuit.
You all don’t really know how this works, do you? There is no first amendment violation there, and he has no right to her twitter account as claimed in the lawsuit.
Stupid and delusional is no way to go through life, son. Check your choices. Make better ones.
Emmett Till did the same outrageous behavior as Alex Stein did to AOC.
Paul, I know you are full in on the victimhood thing that is fashionable in right wing circles today, but if you don’t want people to think you are an uncaring racist kook, perhaps don’t compare a right wing provocateur being “cancelled” to the violent, racist murder of a 14 year old.
Till’s interaction with Bryant, perhaps unwittingly, violated the unwritten code of behavior for a black male interacting with a white female in the Jim Crow-era South.[3] Several nights after the incident in the store, Bryant’s husband Roy and his half-brother J. W. Milam, who were armed, went to Till’s great-uncle’s house and abducted Emmett. They took him away then beat and mutilated him before shooting him in the head and sinking his body in the Tallahatchie River. Three days later, the boy’s mutilated and bloated body was discovered and retrieved from the river.
Or if you seriously think they are in any way equivalent or this is a gotcha… well then, it says far more about you (and your feeling on race and your personal moral code–or lack there of) than anything else. And, if that really is the case, then I just feel a lot of pity for you because it must be aweful to be you.
I have to admit, whenever I see Paul’s name here I wonder if he is still creepily and angrily obsessing over men who have been accused of rape, driving himself into paroxysms of rage against those damn bitches! Which of course always makes me wonder what would happen if law enforcement were ever to get a DNA sample from him.
As I said, I wonder… but not enough to read his stuff or the replies.
An Army official reportedly told Military.com, “There’s a level of prestige in parts of conservative America with service that has degraded.”
“Now, you can say you don’t want to join, for whatever reason, or bad-mouth the service without any cultural guilt associated for the first time in those areas,” the officer continued.
It’s worse than that, more and more of the men who did serve are advising their sons, nephews and other young men (and women) to not join.
The Army’s recruitment of white soldiers dropped by almost half in the last five years, coinciding with… the record low unemployment rate as delivered by feisty Joe Biden.
An Army official reportedly told Military.com, “There’s a level of prestige in parts of conservative America with service that has degraded.”
Sounds to me like conservative America decided to be unpatriotic by Hate The Troops and have been telling their menfolk to avoid service the nation they want to Make Great Again. Why’s their moral failing on the libs? I mean, the prestige of serving your nation should be a given for people who claim to love America so much. Sounds like they’d rather have a hissy then do their duty and their feels are more important then patriotism. Tsk tsk, young white men these days too busy listen’ to dem Youtubes to serve their nation honorably like their daddies did!!!
@Matt Bernius:
Ooooo. Wiki propaganda. They are responsible to provide the approved narrative.
Till had grabbed and propositioned Carolyn Bryant.
Alex Stein catcalled and propositioned AOC. AOC lied about what Alex Stein said accusing him of saying things like “look at your juicy a**,” which he did not say as proven by the video he posted.
I never said that Till’s behavior excused his murderers. But like Saint Jesus George Loinheart Floyd, you are not allowed to say anything negative about him.
Punishing cops for civil rights violations during covid violates the unwritten code of behavior.
Apple is releasing a big product next month and I thought this tidbit about one of the suppliers was interesting:
Apple supplier Goertek has firmed up plans to move a substantial amount of production from China to Vietnam, after the Cupertino company urged it to do so.
On the good news side for China… hmmm…. well, Vanuatu has stopped recognizing Taiwan after China applied pressure.
Been on the phone for a while trying to cancel my Baltimore Sun subscription today. It was just bought by David Smith, the racist, Baltimore hating, POS suburbanite who heads Sinclair media (yes, that Sinclair media) and the local lyin’ Fox News station. Thank god we recently got a new newspaper who is doing a great job reporting local and Maryland news. I don’t need a Baltimore paper to read national and international news articles from the NYT and AP. I’m in 100% agreement with David Simon, a local best known for creating “The Wire”:
“What is left to say about American newspapering?” Simon said on X, afyter being tagged by the sportswriter and political pundit Charles Pierce.
“Everyone who is in within the sound of an honest Bawlamer accent needs to subscribe to the @BaltimoreBanner right fucking now. If you do not you are simply complicit,” he added, tagging the Baltimore nonprofit news organization The Baltimore Banner.
@JKB: If racist white men don’t want to serve in a military that values people of color and women, then I say…fuck ’em. If they don’t want to protect every American, rather than just the Americans who look like them, then I say…fuck ’em.
I served 20 years in uniform and I served for everyone. Even you, JKB, even though I think your politics are garbage and you are supporting an actual traitor.
Of course as @MarkedMan points out, this drop in recruitment is due more to historically low unemployment and increases in wages than to DEI initiatives in the armed forces. Recruitment has always dropped in times of low civilian unemployment.
@becca: After Navy boot camp in SanDiego I went to Naval Air Station Memphis for my introductory aviation maintenance training. I arrived in December and had my first experience with snow combined with freezing rain. As a Colorado boy the snow was nothing but freezing rain is just not right.
Till had grabbed and propositioned Carolyn Bryant.
Paul, help me out here, why is it you always questioning the facts in prosecutions against White folks and believe what racists (you know the type who kidnap and murder a 14 year old) say about Black folks? Also, you always question what Black Prosecutors say (DUKE LACROSSE) by here you are accepting a White prosecutor at his word?
When White cops and a White DA are prosecuting a White person, you do take that person’s side (TED STEVENS, TRUMP).
Black folks, not so much. I seem to remember you being not particularly supportive of BLM for example (though I could be wrong).
Strange huh… It’s almost like your opinions are heavily determined by race… strange that.
Or wait, I guess that you accept the Trump DoJ’s assessment that despite an interview where his accuser recanted, there was no way to prove that she had lied (more details: https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/06/politics/emmett-till-case-closed/index.html). So… is it that we can trust the Justice Department when they say Black people do things, but not when they say White people do things? I’m sure you have a lot of opinions about MLK Jr. and the FBI’s attacks on him.
Anyway, just trying to figure out where you stand on these things because usually if a Federal Investigation is mentioned, you immediately dismiss it as corrupt.
BTW, shall we get back to you still seeming to suspect that former Federal Prosecutor Rudy Guilani’s unsubstantiated accusations against Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss still could be true. Weird how they are Black as well… And Rudy, despite his noted sins as a Prosecutor and long time law and order Republican… what color is he again.
Also is what happened to Till, you know the being kidnapped, beaten, shot in the head, and thrown in a river, wiki propaganda too? How about the photos from his open casket funeral.
And man, you seem to be suggesting that a child–or wait is a 14 year old Black boy a man–deserved to be murdered.
I mean, that’s keeping with your love of Trump and his calling for the execution of Black teenagers (who turned out to be falsely prosecuted too). Oh, I forget, you say you don’t like Trump’s criminal legal system views…
Anyway, keep on with this line of thought man. No way does it suggest that you have… certain views on race and punishment that are… super normal. Either way, it’s showing off the contents of your heart and how you’re willing to fight for the White types of people.
Or, if you need to find time to google a case of a Black person who was done dirty by the Feds in order to prove that there is no way at all that race is involved in your decisions despite your long track record of attention to only certain types of cases… we’ll wait. I’m pretty sure you can find another literal lynching… I mean low hanging strange fruit to cite.
@JKB:
Gonna make it hard for Trump to send the army into the streets to steal the election with all those women and minorities, eh? So now I guess the MAGA fantasy is fat old men in cammies and their deranged Karens taking on the US Army on behalf of Orange Jesus and Vladimir Putin? Gotta say, I don’t think much of your chances.
Did you seriously think an article about how conservatives hate America was going to be surprising to anyone on this forum? No shit man, we are alive and have functioning eyes and ears.
@Paul L.: “But Sexual Harassment and Catcalling is bad. Isn’t it?”
Wait — are you supporting Emmet Till’s murderers?
Or is this one of those trolly things where you’re trying to say that by our standards we should all support Emmet Till’s murderers or we’re hypocrites?
What a loathsome little toad you are. And the crazy thing is, you’re not even good at this.
@wr:
Yup, that is pretty much what he is doing. And I expect he thinks he’s setting us up for a but you say “always believe the accuser” strawman (which I don’t think is a position I’ve seen anyone here take). It also doesn’t make much sense for someone who obsesses over the Duke Lacross case some 18 years after it happened to take that position (at least while arguing that Emmitt Till apparently deserved to be extrajudicial murdered… but hey Till was Black so that might mean he did in Paul’s mind).
Then again, as I’ve pointed out, he unironically chose to be the ruler of a blog called “Kingdom of Idiots.”
Thing is, as I understand, Spirit isn’t doing well at all, which is why it had started “merger” talks with Frontier last year, which JetBlue rudely interrupted with their offer. So, if they go broke and out of business, what will the effect be?
This does not bode well for the ongoing merger process between Hawaiian and Alaska.
@Bill Jempty: I vistied the Soviet Union in 1988 with a group from my high school. We flew into Brussels and got a connecting Aeroflot flight into Moscow. One of the guys in my group napped a little on that flight and woke up to his pant leg frozen to the side of the fuselage. Some water had dripped on his leg which rested against the side of the plane. He wasn’t hurt or anything, just just pulled his leg away from the plane, but it did really give us an introduction to soviet technology and engineering.
I never said that Till’s behavior excused his murderers.
When White cops and a White DA are prosecuting a White person, you do take that person’s side
I betrayed the blue line by not defending the following hero cops murders of BIPOC people.
Tamir Rice, Tyre Nichols, Antwon Rose Jr, Botham Jean, Walter Scott, Jordan Edwards, Rekia Boyd and Laquan McDonald.
I never said that Till’s behavior excused his murderers.
Paul, if you seriously took more time and unpacked what you are saying and the point you are trying to make through free association, we would be able to have a more fruitful discussion. Instead, you brought in the case of Emmitt Till and then compared it to something that really isn’t the same in any perceivable way.
Also let’s not skip over:
But like Saint Jesus George Loinheart Floyd, you are not allowed to say anything negative about him.
Yeah, there is no deep-seated racial animus in that association. And strange that you keep choosing Black men extrajudicially killed to some how prove some type of point.
Also, I want folks to note that I wrote the following:
Or, if you need to find time to google a case of a Black person who was done dirty by the Feds in order to prove that there is no way at all that race is involved in your decisions despite your long track record of attention to only certain types of cases… we’ll wait. I’m pretty sure you can find another literal lynching… I mean low hanging strange fruit to cite.
And Paul follow us with:
I betrayed the blue line by not defending the following hero cops murders of BIPOC people.
Tamir Rice, Tyre Nichols, Antwon Rose Jr, Botham Jean, Walter Scott, Jordan Edwards, Rekia Boyd and Laquan McDonald.
Paul may say this is a case of giving me what I wanted. If it is, then seriously Paul, you are letting me take up way too much space in your head. And it’s pretty packed in there with all the voices.
And if it isn’t, well, what can I say? You’re kinda predictable.
You implied it. Everyone here caught the implication.
This is the thing I never get:
Let’s say for a moment that wasn’t the intended implication–that he honestly didn’t mean it. Its still clear that most of us read it as that. Shouldn’t that data point matter?
Let’s posit you say something and mean “A.”
Then, everyone responds to it and says clearly you are saying “X.”
At this point, I don’t understand a mindset that then assumes that the original communication was clear and everyone is at fault for not understanding it.
Or, I guess I can accept that can happen once. Or twice. Or a few times. After all we all have egos and this site’s comments sections have LOTS of examples of posters of all persuasions not being able to admit they were wrong. Dig deep enough and I am sure you will find examples of me doing that.
But at some point, when that’s a repeated pattern and lots of people have pointed out the pattern… at some point, you need to acknowledge that there is an issue with your communication style rather than everyone else’s understanding style.
I really am curious about what leads someone to always assume the problem is with everyone else and not them.
@Matt Bernius:
Your back and forth with Paul reminds of when I try to explain to my dogs that it would be really convenient if they learned to shit before we got to the dog poo receptacle, so that I don’t have to walk half a mile home holding a plastic bag of warm and, despite the bag, fragrant shit.
Somehow, no matter how patiently I explain, they don’t understand.
@Matt Bernius:
How am I wrong about the behavior Till was accused of?
Just pointing out how the left wing outrage machine engaged in bad faith that “Sexual Harassment and Catcalling” of AOC was terrible behavior that should result in shaming and the banishment from public life.
@Michael Reynolds:
Do you explain to your dogs how the Michael Cohen frog march will get Trump indicted, convicted, impeached and imprisoned? BlueAnon Resister.
I really am curious about what leads someone to always assume the problem is with everyone else and not them.
I’m struggling with wording things today, so I hope my explanation is clear.
I’ve pointed out many times that Trump is a symptom rather than the disease. His peculiar nature makes him uniquely fit to ravage the body politic, but the immune system has been weakened by factors other than Trump.
Paul is the result of rhetoric and strategies employed for decades. People like him have been bombarded by such messaging. It is not surprising that fanatics emerge. It’s not that their faculties of reason don’t work, it’s that their assumptions are buried deep, and they can only observe things that reinforce those assumptions.
@Kurtz: I suspect a lot of them have undiagnosed mental problems. I had a friend who went down the Trump rabbit hole and looking back on the changes in his personality it really seems it starts with self-pity, then morphs into paranoia and conspiracy theories. Anything to avoid admitting that you yourself are responsible for the crappy life you have ended up with.
@JKB:
IIRC the recent US military stats were about 55% of recruits “white”.
I can’t be entirely sure about US recruitment patterns, but in the UK the majority of army and navy recruits have always been what might be defined as “working class”.
(RAF skews a bit more middle-class, because reasons.)
About 15% of British Army recruits are “non white” which tracks almost exactly with the “non-white” percentage of the British working class.
As the US has much greater “non white” percentage of the working class than the UK, c. 59%, the recruitment figures are within statistical noise level of what you’d expect.
Especially with a buoyant economy, and rather higher unemployment levels in the “non-white” population.
In short: news at 11.
How am I wrong about the behavior Till was accused of?
Here’s what you wrote:
Till had grabbed and propositioned Carolyn Bryant.
There was no suggestion of “accusation” in that statement. The only sentence you wrote on that presented this as fact. In fact, in none of your posts up until this one did you call out *accusations.*
To put it in terms you’ll understand, it would be no different than me [incorrectly] saying:
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team raped a stripper.”
or
“US Senator Ted Stevens made false statements on financial disclosures involving VECO, the oil services company in Alaska, and the renovations done on his home.”
Of course, the key difference was that those people were not extrajudicially killed before trial. And the wrongdoers in those cases were held to some form of punishment. In Till’s case his killers were found not guilty for… reasons. And there is the issue of the interview where the accuser apparently changed her story.
Just pointing out how the left wing outrage machine engaged in bad faith that “Sexual Harassment and Catcalling” of AOC was terrible behavior that should result in shaming and the banishment from public life.
By comparing it to the extrajudicial murder of a 14 year old Black boy… you keep leaving out that part for some reason.
Also that the person in question is a right wing provacatuer who was trying to provoke this reaction (unless you were implying that Till was trying to provoke what happened to him)… you keep leaving that out as well.
You realize that it isn’t getting better with your repeat explanations…
I’ve seen a number of pieces about this development in the media, but all, as usual, gloss over details or give plain wrong info.
But Dr, Novella doe say something I’ve long assumed: “Also, nuclear batteries have constant energy output. You do not draw power from them as needed, like with a lithium-ion battery. They just produce electricity at a constant (and slowly decreasing) rate.”
My assumption is that if radioisotope batteries produce electricity as atoms decay, then the rate and frequency of decay determines electricity production, whether it’s being used or not. Kind of like a solar panel converts light to electricity, and will do so as long as it’s exposed to sunlight. whether you draw any power from it or not is immaterial.
I mention this because now and then when the Voyager probes get mentioned, often there’s a line to the effect that this or that instrument was switched off to conserve power. This never made any sense. What I suppose it means, if it means anything, is that as the isotopes in the batteries have decayed, there’s less electrical energy available. Thus the NASA controllers turn off some instruments so the rest, and the radio transmitter, have enough juice to work.
Yes, the problem is one of implicit bias IMO as well. People are encouraged to adopt a certain set of foundational attitudes and assumptions, and from there it’s easy for a good con man to manipulate them.
Everybody is vulnerable to implicit bias, I might add. Everybody. Takes a constant, life-long effort to keep from falling into that trap.
To put it in terms you’ll understand, it would be no different than me [incorrectly] saying:
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team raped a stripper.”
Except that he really believes that Till did and Duke Lacrosse didn’t.
ETA: “By comparing it to the extrajudicial murder of a 14 year old Black boy… you keep leaving out that part for some reason.”
Only because he doesn’t believe that part–or maybe sees it as some sort of vigilante justice.
@Paul L.: Shorter Paul: Duh wyte bitchez be lying…lessun it’s about sumthin a ni&&3r did.
You weren’t there clown and his cousin that actually was there say Till did no such thing. The likelihood a child in Jim Crow South whistled and groped a white women is essentially zero.
@Paul L.: “the left wing outrage machine engaged in bad faith that “Sexual Harassment and Catcalling” of AOC was terrible behavior that should result in shaming and the banishment from public life.”
Is AOC really so central to your existence that you believe being blocked from her Twitter feed means shaming and the banishment from public life?
That implies that the murder of Till was performed by the authorities and/or police.
So the Wichita Massacre/Horror was the extrajudicial murder of 5 white supremacists?
I make these truth statements all the time.
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team are credibly accused of raping a stripper.”
or
“US Senator Ted Stevens was a convicted felon”.
@Paul L.:
You are completely right that my use of “extrajudicial” implies that and that was wrong. I had a brain fart and forgot that it’s typically used to refer to government actors. Vigilante was what they meant.
I make these truth statements all the time.
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team are credibly accused of raping a stripper.”
No offense, Paul, but apparently, you don’t understand your own writings because I have never seen you say that or imply that it was ever a credible accusation. This is especially difficult with you because of your decision to often communicate in 3-Dimensional Chess sarcasm and irony that almost all of us find really opaque.
And again, in what you just wrote you included “credibly accused” in the Duke Lacrosse sentence. What you wrote for Till was:
Till had grabbed and propositioned Carolyn Bryant.
BTW, should I mention that Till was never even charged because he was killed by vigilantes (not, extrajudically–the then husband and half-brother of his accuser (who never btw, filed charges).
Either way, we’re at a point where I need to jump off this discussion thread. I think I’ve made my perspective clear.
Thank you for again for the correction on my use of extrajudicial.
I use “credibly accused” because Democrats and their media shills used that for the Christine Blasey Ford alleging that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her.
After all the allegations were found credibly by a grand jury and the NAACP.
The FBI/DOJ who never btw, filed charges against James Hodgkinson for the Republican Baseball Domestic Terrorism Insurrection proves there is no Leftwing Domestic Terrorism in the US. QED.
Dozens of Kias, Hyundais hot-wired in South Florida with viral USB cable trend
Why hasn’t the manufacturer fixed this defect?
A scene from the James Bond movie, Tomorrow Never Dies, may give us a clue.
Elliot Carver: Mr. Jones, are we ready to release our new software?
Jones: Yes, sir. As requested, it’s full of bugs, which means people will be forced to upgrade for years.
Elliot Carver: Outstanding.
The counterpart to Boeing news. From the Washington Post–
Flying in Russia is unsafe. Isn’t that a water is wet headline. It has been a risky endeavor to fly in either Russia or Soviet Union and for a long time. Aeroflot was involved in over 700 incidents between 1946 and 1989 and that doesn’t count infamous crashes like this one where children were allowed to fly the plane.
@Bill Jempty: The manufacturer has fixed the defect, but it requires the car’s owner to bring the car to the dealership for a free software upgrade. There’s any number of reasons why a lot of Americans wouldn’t do this right away.
@Mikey:
See TND is right. You have to get the software update and while that happens have to endure 3 day old donuts and coffee so strong it will make hair grow on your nose.
@Mikey: Yep. Full time work and full time caregiving, plus the probability that my 2014 Kia Soul will be the one nabbed on any given day. I mean, if it gets stolen and my insurance company gives me the down payment on a new car as a payout, is it really the worst thing in the world?
@Mikey: Hmmm, software update? How will the thieves know you have a software update and so won’t bother smashing your window and wrecking your steering column? What’s been happening is that people are taking it as a TikTok dare. They steal a car and then drive it around like maniacs crashing into things. For the most part it’s not to sell it for parts or anything like that.
Good morning to all my snowed-in friends (and you lucky people with freedom of movement)!
Had my surgery and ran into some complications. Turns out I had stage 4 endometriosis on top of the masses and they had to remove quite a bit more then they anticipated because of the attached tissues. My sister reported the surgeon called the growths “gnarly”, that I had been walking around with “cement” in my gut for years they were shocked I could move with and because it ended up being more invasive then expected, I lost 2 units of blood before they could get it under control.
So long story short: am short more organs then expected but my god do I feel sooooo much better! I can move and breathe in ways I haven’t in years and if I wasn’t held together with glue, I’d be out digging through the 3ft of snow in a heartbeat.
Finally gave in and made the GoFundMe now the bills has started coming in. Since the surgery was more invasive and required a stay, it’s now costing a fortune. Does anyone mind me posting it here? I’ve never done it before so have no idea how to get the word out
@KM: Go ahead. Happy to throw into the kitty
You’ve heard me taking about the dangers of Generative AI before, and how I feel it will ruin a large part of the internet. Here’s, well, not an example put a prediction. This morning I was searching for this quote about the old days of skiing from Ernest Hemingway, “Anything you ran down from, you had to climb up to first, and you could run down only as often as you could climb up… ” After some searching, I did find it, but it wasn’t at a big site, or one I was familiar with. I immediately asked myself if I had really found it, or was it a Generative AI site presenting what I was looking for, even though I had misremembered it. I looked around the site and it appeared legit, but will I be able to tell in a couple of years?
9 degrees in Memphis this morning. Wind chill has us at -4.
Geese are walking across the lake. We had about 6 inches of snow fall and it’s not going anywhere for a while. We’re hoping to get down to the grocery store tomorrow before a mix of freezing rain and snow on Thursday.
My six year old granddaughter is over the moon. Her first good sledding experience and Mom made snow ice cream!
Poor little girl was so worried there would be no snow this year. Her teacher told her class that if they wear their clothes inside out it will snow really hard. She dutifully complied and got her wish. I don’t know if she’ll ever wear her clothes right side out the rest of winter.
Good to hear. As far as the go fund me, please do. I can’t afford to give much but happy to do what I can.
OK, here goes. Even if you can’t contribute (no worries, still love you all) you can see my beautiful dog’s face as she checks out recovery flowers sent from work!
https://www.gofundme.com/f/2023-funeral-bills-surprise-surgery-more
Feel free to pass along to anyone you think might care. I’m not big on Twitter or FB so I’m trying to figure out how to get attention
Good news from medical world. Cancer mortality rates are improving and the gap between black and white mortality is narrowing, dropping from 26% higher to 12% higher. In my mind this is a decent example of what should be meant by systemic racism. The kind of racism where providers would refuse to treat minorities or treat them differently due to their race is mostly, not entirely, gone. However, there still exist lots of policies, rules and investments that either favor the majority, white people, or make it more difficult for minorities, especially black people.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2813742
“Age-adjusted mortality rates are presented in Figure 1 by race and ethnicity, sex, and cancer type. In 2000, the rate was 251.7 per 100 000 population among Black individuals and 199.7 per 100 000 population among White individuals, decreasing to 166.8 per 100 000 population (AAPC, −2.04% [95% CI, –2.07% to –2.00%]) and 149.3 per 100 000 population (AAPC, −1.44% [95% CI, –1.48% to –1.39%]), respectively, by 2020 (P < .001 for trend). Between 2000 and 2020, declines in cancer mortality were observed for each cancer type for both groups. However, Black individuals consistently experienced higher mortality than White individuals for all cancers except female lung and bronchus."
Steve
@MarkedMan: As part of the update, they add stickers to the front side windows showing that the vehicle’s been updated and is not longer vulnerable to the USB hack. Will it deter everyone? No. But it will probably deter at least some.
@KM: Just added something to it. Hope it helps
@Gromitt Gunn:
Can’t you just buy the stickers on Amazon?
@becca:
Mobile AL had freezing rain, Pensacola has a chance of snow flurries.
We took the malamute for a jog this morning in Gulf Breeze, FL and there was graupel. They don’t even KNOW that word here to describe that ice stuff falling from the sky.
Today is our last day to pack and prep before we head off to Colorado.
Emmett Till did the same outrageous behavior as Alex Stein did to AOC.
@Paul L.:
You’re going to need to translate from MAGA to English. We don’t speak moron.
@Liberal Capitalist: My son is in Estes Park right now. The temperature is at 18 degrees and sunny. Almost an improvement.
@Paul L.:
Great. He filed a lawsuit he’s going to lose, and he’s going to have to pay her legal bills after she wins the bogus lawsuit.
You all don’t really know how this works, do you? There is no first amendment violation there, and he has no right to her twitter account as claimed in the lawsuit.
Stupid and delusional is no way to go through life, son. Check your choices. Make better ones.
But Sexual Harassment and Catcalling is bad. Isn’t it?
@EddieInCA:
Knight Institute v. Trump
@Paul L.:
Stupid and delusional is no way to go through life, son. Check your choices. Make better ones.
@Paul L.: glad to see you are back in your wheelhouse of defending rapists, sexual harassers, and their ilk. I thought you got hacked for a bit there.
@Paul L.:
Paul, I know you are full in on the victimhood thing that is fashionable in right wing circles today, but if you don’t want people to think you are an uncaring racist kook, perhaps don’t compare a right wing provocateur being “cancelled” to the violent, racist murder of a 14 year old.
Or if you seriously think they are in any way equivalent or this is a gotcha… well then, it says far more about you (and your feeling on race and your personal moral code–or lack there of) than anything else. And, if that really is the case, then I just feel a lot of pity for you because it must be aweful to be you.
I have to admit, whenever I see Paul’s name here I wonder if he is still creepily and angrily obsessing over men who have been accused of rape, driving himself into paroxysms of rage against those damn bitches! Which of course always makes me wonder what would happen if law enforcement were ever to get a DNA sample from him.
As I said, I wonder… but not enough to read his stuff or the replies.
The Army diversity efforts succeed, but now the Army is confused as to why fewer white men sign up.
It’s worse than that, more and more of the men who did serve are advising their sons, nephews and other young men (and women) to not join.
@JKB
Hey, kudos to you for waiting until MLK day passed to lean into White grievance issues.
The Army’s recruitment of white soldiers dropped by almost half in the last five years, coinciding with… the record low unemployment rate as delivered by feisty Joe Biden.
@JKB: Didn’t Trump say that the guys in the military were suckers? That could explain why the military’s prestige in conservative America has dropped.
@Paul L.: Ain’t nobody clicking your links, bro. Your comments are just gibberish. This is “Darmak and Jalad and Tanagra” level of nonsense.
@JKB:
Sounds to me like conservative America decided to be unpatriotic by Hate The Troops and have been telling their menfolk to avoid service the nation they want to Make Great Again. Why’s their moral failing on the libs? I mean, the prestige of serving your nation should be a given for people who claim to love America so much. Sounds like they’d rather have a hissy then do their duty and their feels are more important then patriotism. Tsk tsk, young white men these days too busy listen’ to dem Youtubes to serve their nation honorably like their daddies did!!!
@Matt Bernius:
Ooooo. Wiki propaganda. They are responsible to provide the approved narrative.
Till had grabbed and propositioned Carolyn Bryant.
Alex Stein catcalled and propositioned AOC. AOC lied about what Alex Stein said accusing him of saying things like “look at your juicy a**,” which he did not say as proven by the video he posted.
I never said that Till’s behavior excused his murderers. But like Saint Jesus George Loinheart Floyd, you are not allowed to say anything negative about him.
Punishing cops for civil rights violations during covid violates the unwritten code of behavior.
Apple is releasing a big product next month and I thought this tidbit about one of the suppliers was interesting:
On the good news side for China… hmmm…. well, Vanuatu has stopped recognizing Taiwan after China applied pressure.
Been on the phone for a while trying to cancel my Baltimore Sun subscription today. It was just bought by David Smith, the racist, Baltimore hating, POS suburbanite who heads Sinclair media (yes, that Sinclair media) and the local lyin’ Fox News station. Thank god we recently got a new newspaper who is doing a great job reporting local and Maryland news. I don’t need a Baltimore paper to read national and international news articles from the NYT and AP. I’m in 100% agreement with David Simon, a local best known for creating “The Wire”:
@JKB: If racist white men don’t want to serve in a military that values people of color and women, then I say…fuck ’em. If they don’t want to protect every American, rather than just the Americans who look like them, then I say…fuck ’em.
I served 20 years in uniform and I served for everyone. Even you, JKB, even though I think your politics are garbage and you are supporting an actual traitor.
Of course as @MarkedMan points out, this drop in recruitment is due more to historically low unemployment and increases in wages than to DEI initiatives in the armed forces. Recruitment has always dropped in times of low civilian unemployment.
@becca: After Navy boot camp in SanDiego I went to Naval Air Station Memphis for my introductory aviation maintenance training. I arrived in December and had my first experience with snow combined with freezing rain. As a Colorado boy the snow was nothing but freezing rain is just not right.
@Paul L.:
Paul, help me out here, why is it you always questioning the facts in prosecutions against White folks and believe what racists (you know the type who kidnap and murder a 14 year old) say about Black folks? Also, you always question what Black Prosecutors say (DUKE LACROSSE) by here you are accepting a White prosecutor at his word?
When White cops and a White DA are prosecuting a White person, you do take that person’s side (TED STEVENS, TRUMP).
Black folks, not so much. I seem to remember you being not particularly supportive of BLM for example (though I could be wrong).
Strange huh… It’s almost like your opinions are heavily determined by race… strange that.
Or wait, I guess that you accept the Trump DoJ’s assessment that despite an interview where his accuser recanted, there was no way to prove that she had lied (more details: https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/06/politics/emmett-till-case-closed/index.html). So… is it that we can trust the Justice Department when they say Black people do things, but not when they say White people do things? I’m sure you have a lot of opinions about MLK Jr. and the FBI’s attacks on him.
Anyway, just trying to figure out where you stand on these things because usually if a Federal Investigation is mentioned, you immediately dismiss it as corrupt.
BTW, shall we get back to you still seeming to suspect that former Federal Prosecutor Rudy Guilani’s unsubstantiated accusations against Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss still could be true. Weird how they are Black as well… And Rudy, despite his noted sins as a Prosecutor and long time law and order Republican… what color is he again.
Also is what happened to Till, you know the being kidnapped, beaten, shot in the head, and thrown in a river, wiki propaganda too? How about the photos from his open casket funeral.
And man, you seem to be suggesting that a child–or wait is a 14 year old Black boy a man–deserved to be murdered.
I mean, that’s keeping with your love of Trump and his calling for the execution of Black teenagers (who turned out to be falsely prosecuted too). Oh, I forget, you say you don’t like Trump’s criminal legal system views…
Anyway, keep on with this line of thought man. No way does it suggest that you have… certain views on race and punishment that are… super normal. Either way, it’s showing off the contents of your heart and how you’re willing to fight for the White types of people.
Or, if you need to find time to google a case of a Black person who was done dirty by the Feds in order to prove that there is no way at all that race is involved in your decisions despite your long track record of attention to only certain types of cases… we’ll wait. I’m pretty sure you can find another literal lynching… I mean low hanging strange fruit to cite.
@JKB:
Gonna make it hard for Trump to send the army into the streets to steal the election with all those women and minorities, eh? So now I guess the MAGA fantasy is fat old men in cammies and their deranged Karens taking on the US Army on behalf of Orange Jesus and Vladimir Putin? Gotta say, I don’t think much of your chances.
@KM: Done. I hope it helps, and I am glad you are feeling better. (The pup is lovely and a nice touch. 🙂 )
@JKB:
Did you seriously think an article about how conservatives hate America was going to be surprising to anyone on this forum? No shit man, we are alive and have functioning eyes and ears.
@Paul L.: “But Sexual Harassment and Catcalling is bad. Isn’t it?”
Wait — are you supporting Emmet Till’s murderers?
Or is this one of those trolly things where you’re trying to say that by our standards we should all support Emmet Till’s murderers or we’re hypocrites?
What a loathsome little toad you are. And the crazy thing is, you’re not even good at this.
@wr:
Yup, that is pretty much what he is doing. And I expect he thinks he’s setting us up for a but you say “always believe the accuser” strawman (which I don’t think is a position I’ve seen anyone here take). It also doesn’t make much sense for someone who obsesses over the Duke Lacross case some 18 years after it happened to take that position (at least while arguing that Emmitt Till apparently deserved to be extrajudicial murdered… but hey Till was Black so that might mean he did in Paul’s mind).
Then again, as I’ve pointed out, he unironically chose to be the ruler of a blog called “Kingdom of Idiots.”
So, the courts have blocked Spirit’s acquisition by JetBlue.
Thing is, as I understand, Spirit isn’t doing well at all, which is why it had started “merger” talks with Frontier last year, which JetBlue rudely interrupted with their offer. So, if they go broke and out of business, what will the effect be?
This does not bode well for the ongoing merger process between Hawaiian and Alaska.
@Bill Jempty: I vistied the Soviet Union in 1988 with a group from my high school. We flew into Brussels and got a connecting Aeroflot flight into Moscow. One of the guys in my group napped a little on that flight and woke up to his pant leg frozen to the side of the fuselage. Some water had dripped on his leg which rested against the side of the plane. He wasn’t hurt or anything, just just pulled his leg away from the plane, but it did really give us an introduction to soviet technology and engineering.
@Matt Bernius:
I betrayed the blue line by not defending the following hero cops murders of BIPOC people.
Tamir Rice, Tyre Nichols, Antwon Rose Jr, Botham Jean, Walter Scott, Jordan Edwards, Rekia Boyd and Laquan McDonald.
@Paul L.:
Do you have a gas leak in your home?
@Paul L.:
Paul, if you seriously took more time and unpacked what you are saying and the point you are trying to make through free association, we would be able to have a more fruitful discussion. Instead, you brought in the case of Emmitt Till and then compared it to something that really isn’t the same in any perceivable way.
Also let’s not skip over:
Yeah, there is no deep-seated racial animus in that association. And strange that you keep choosing Black men extrajudicially killed to some how prove some type of point.
Also, I want folks to note that I wrote the following:
And Paul follow us with:
Paul may say this is a case of giving me what I wanted. If it is, then seriously Paul, you are letting me take up way too much space in your head. And it’s pretty packed in there with all the voices.
And if it isn’t, well, what can I say? You’re kinda predictable.
@Paul L.:
You implied it. Everyone here caught the implication.
No need to even bring up Emmett Till, except to try to justify his murder at the hands of anti-black trash like yourself. You ain’t slick.
Pro-lynching MAGA hatemongers are exactly why Republicans keep keep losing elections. Keep digging, dummy. Y’all love alienating voters lol
@DK:
This is the thing I never get:
Let’s say for a moment that wasn’t the intended implication–that he honestly didn’t mean it. Its still clear that most of us read it as that. Shouldn’t that data point matter?
Let’s posit you say something and mean “A.”
Then, everyone responds to it and says clearly you are saying “X.”
At this point, I don’t understand a mindset that then assumes that the original communication was clear and everyone is at fault for not understanding it.
Or, I guess I can accept that can happen once. Or twice. Or a few times. After all we all have egos and this site’s comments sections have LOTS of examples of posters of all persuasions not being able to admit they were wrong. Dig deep enough and I am sure you will find examples of me doing that.
But at some point, when that’s a repeated pattern and lots of people have pointed out the pattern… at some point, you need to acknowledge that there is an issue with your communication style rather than everyone else’s understanding style.
I really am curious about what leads someone to always assume the problem is with everyone else and not them.
@Matt Bernius:
Your back and forth with Paul reminds of when I try to explain to my dogs that it would be really convenient if they learned to shit before we got to the dog poo receptacle, so that I don’t have to walk half a mile home holding a plastic bag of warm and, despite the bag, fragrant shit.
Somehow, no matter how patiently I explain, they don’t understand.
@Mister Bluster:
I miss Gary Larsen. Never equalled.
@Matt Bernius:
How am I wrong about the behavior Till was accused of?
Just pointing out how the left wing outrage machine engaged in bad faith that “Sexual Harassment and Catcalling” of AOC was terrible behavior that should result in shaming and the banishment from public life.
@Michael Reynolds:
Do you explain to your dogs how the Michael Cohen frog march will get Trump indicted, convicted, impeached and imprisoned? BlueAnon Resister.
@KM:
I’m happy it went well for you!
@KM:
So glad you’re getting better.
@Matt Bernius:
I’m struggling with wording things today, so I hope my explanation is clear.
I’ve pointed out many times that Trump is a symptom rather than the disease. His peculiar nature makes him uniquely fit to ravage the body politic, but the immune system has been weakened by factors other than Trump.
Paul is the result of rhetoric and strategies employed for decades. People like him have been bombarded by such messaging. It is not surprising that fanatics emerge. It’s not that their faculties of reason don’t work, it’s that their assumptions are buried deep, and they can only observe things that reinforce those assumptions.
@Kurtz: I suspect a lot of them have undiagnosed mental problems. I had a friend who went down the Trump rabbit hole and looking back on the changes in his personality it really seems it starts with self-pity, then morphs into paranoia and conspiracy theories. Anything to avoid admitting that you yourself are responsible for the crappy life you have ended up with.
@JKB:
IIRC the recent US military stats were about 55% of recruits “white”.
I can’t be entirely sure about US recruitment patterns, but in the UK the majority of army and navy recruits have always been what might be defined as “working class”.
(RAF skews a bit more middle-class, because reasons.)
About 15% of British Army recruits are “non white” which tracks almost exactly with the “non-white” percentage of the British working class.
As the US has much greater “non white” percentage of the working class than the UK, c. 59%, the recruitment figures are within statistical noise level of what you’d expect.
Especially with a buoyant economy, and rather higher unemployment levels in the “non-white” population.
In short: news at 11.
@Paul L.:
Here’s what you wrote:
There was no suggestion of “accusation” in that statement. The only sentence you wrote on that presented this as fact. In fact, in none of your posts up until this one did you call out *accusations.*
To put it in terms you’ll understand, it would be no different than me [incorrectly] saying:
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team raped a stripper.”
or
“US Senator Ted Stevens made false statements on financial disclosures involving VECO, the oil services company in Alaska, and the renovations done on his home.”
Of course, the key difference was that those people were not extrajudicially killed before trial. And the wrongdoers in those cases were held to some form of punishment. In Till’s case his killers were found not guilty for… reasons. And there is the issue of the interview where the accuser apparently changed her story.
By comparing it to the extrajudicial murder of a 14 year old Black boy… you keep leaving out that part for some reason.
Also that the person in question is a right wing provacatuer who was trying to provoke this reaction (unless you were implying that Till was trying to provoke what happened to him)… you keep leaving that out as well.
You realize that it isn’t getting better with your repeat explanations…
Anyone up for a nuclear diamond battery?
I’ve seen a number of pieces about this development in the media, but all, as usual, gloss over details or give plain wrong info.
But Dr, Novella doe say something I’ve long assumed: “Also, nuclear batteries have constant energy output. You do not draw power from them as needed, like with a lithium-ion battery. They just produce electricity at a constant (and slowly decreasing) rate.”
My assumption is that if radioisotope batteries produce electricity as atoms decay, then the rate and frequency of decay determines electricity production, whether it’s being used or not. Kind of like a solar panel converts light to electricity, and will do so as long as it’s exposed to sunlight. whether you draw any power from it or not is immaterial.
I mention this because now and then when the Voyager probes get mentioned, often there’s a line to the effect that this or that instrument was switched off to conserve power. This never made any sense. What I suppose it means, if it means anything, is that as the isotopes in the batteries have decayed, there’s less electrical energy available. Thus the NASA controllers turn off some instruments so the rest, and the radio transmitter, have enough juice to work.
@Kurtz:
Yes, the problem is one of implicit bias IMO as well. People are encouraged to adopt a certain set of foundational attitudes and assumptions, and from there it’s easy for a good con man to manipulate them.
Everybody is vulnerable to implicit bias, I might add. Everybody. Takes a constant, life-long effort to keep from falling into that trap.
@Matt Bernius:
Except that he really believes that Till did and Duke Lacrosse didn’t.
ETA: “By comparing it to the extrajudicial murder of a 14 year old Black boy… you keep leaving out that part for some reason.”
Only because he doesn’t believe that part–or maybe sees it as some sort of vigilante justice.
@Paul L.: Shorter Paul: Duh wyte bitchez be lying…lessun it’s about sumthin a ni&&3r did.
You weren’t there clown and his cousin that actually was there say Till did no such thing. The likelihood a child in Jim Crow South whistled and groped a white women is essentially zero.
But please carry on entertaining us…
@Paul L.: “the left wing outrage machine engaged in bad faith that “Sexual Harassment and Catcalling” of AOC was terrible behavior that should result in shaming and the banishment from public life.”
Is AOC really so central to your existence that you believe being blocked from her Twitter feed means shaming and the banishment from public life?
@wr:
Not to mention equivalent (by comparison) to being beaten nearly to death, shot in the head, and thrown in a river.
@Matt Bernius:
That implies that the murder of Till was performed by the authorities and/or police.
So the Wichita Massacre/Horror was the extrajudicial murder of 5 white supremacists?
I make these truth statements all the time.
“Three members of the Duke University men’s lacrosse team are credibly accused of raping a stripper.”
or
“US Senator Ted Stevens was a convicted felon”.
@Paul L.:
You are completely right that my use of “extrajudicial” implies that and that was wrong. I had a brain fart and forgot that it’s typically used to refer to government actors. Vigilante was what they meant.
No offense, Paul, but apparently, you don’t understand your own writings because I have never seen you say that or imply that it was ever a credible accusation. This is especially difficult with you because of your decision to often communicate in 3-Dimensional Chess sarcasm and irony that almost all of us find really opaque.
And again, in what you just wrote you included “credibly accused” in the Duke Lacrosse sentence. What you wrote for Till was:
BTW, should I mention that Till was never even charged because he was killed by vigilantes (not, extrajudically–the then husband and half-brother of his accuser (who never btw, filed charges).
Either way, we’re at a point where I need to jump off this discussion thread. I think I’ve made my perspective clear.
Thank you for again for the correction on my use of extrajudicial.
I use “credibly accused” because Democrats and their media shills used that for the Christine Blasey Ford alleging that Kavanaugh had sexually assaulted her.
After all the allegations were found credibly by a grand jury and the NAACP.
The FBI/DOJ who never btw, filed charges against James Hodgkinson for the Republican Baseball Domestic Terrorism Insurrection proves there is no Leftwing Domestic Terrorism in the US. QED.