Tuesday’s Forum

Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter


  1. OzarkHillbilly says:
  2. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Joe Biden’s dogs sent home to Delaware after ‘biting incident’– report

    Sorry to see this but not really surprised. German Shepherds tend to have a very strong territorial instinct. As sweet as pie to anyone in their family, they view outsiders with suspicion and are likely to respond aggressively to any perceived intruders.

  3. Teve says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: those dogs are Antifa!

  4. Teve says:

    This is awesome. Trump just put out a statement saying that we can’t afford to support any more RINOs, don’t send them any donations, send the donations instead to…guess

  5. sam says:

    Here’s an interesting read that’s worth your time. Christopher Buskirk is a conservative Republican I’ve seen on TV from time to time, and the subject of his piece is something that I’d wager not many folks who frequent this forum have given must thought to.

  6. CSK says:

    And doubtless the saps will line up to empty their pockets into Trump’s coffers.

  7. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Lindsey Graham: Trump may destroy Republican party but he has a ‘magic’

    Some mornings I just can’t make myself swim in the sycophantic sewer of Republican groveling in the hopes of finding a nugget or 2 of info.

  8. CSK says:

    Trump could well be dead in 2026.

  9. Teve says:

    @sam: that was a smart essay.

  10. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CSK: Not soon enough for me.

  11. tyrell says:

    That magical time of the year is starting up this week: March Madness, Bracketology. Last second jumpers, rivalries, upsets, and office pools. The only sport that comes close is fall football. I went to a tournament game two years ago. There were parking lot parties everywhere, the atmosphere inside the arena was 100% electric. I remember when I was in school every classroom had a radio tuned to the tournaments.

  12. sam says:
  13. Scott says:

    @tyrell: I agree. I always am thrilled when there is a Cinderella team that comes out of nowhere to upset everything. I still remember Larry Bird dragging Indiana State to the National Championship. Not exactly out of nowhere since the Sycamores were 33-0 but they were a minor team before Larry and a minor team after. I can’t recall another instance where one player had such an massive impact on a team.

  14. OzarkHillbilly says:

    God’s house: In just the latest example of Church: What Are We Even Doing Here, a Malden, Missouri pastor is on leave and in counseling this week after a sermon he delivered in which he chastised the women in his congregation for not being hot or putting out enough went viral on social media. “Now look, I’m not saying every woman can be the epic trophy wife of all time like Melania Trump — I’m not saying that at all,” First General Baptist Church Pastor Stewart Allen-Clark says in the video. “Most women can’t be trophy wives, but you know, maybe you’re a participation trophy.” He then goes on to refer to women from Mexico as “taco belles” before busting out the good book in order to promote some good old-fashioned spousal rape. “The wife has no longer all the rights over her body, but shares them with her husband,” he says, quoting a verse from Corinthians. “So whenever she’s not in the mood, dig out your Bible.” Man of God, or Hypeman of the Patriarchy at an open mic night hosted by an incel forum for little league dads? It’s getting hard to tell the difference.

  15. Joe says:

    Even football season is no match for the first and even second weeks of March Madness. I sometimes wonder why we even open the office those first two days of the tournament, especially if there are local teams in the mix.

  16. CSK says:

    Melania ‘s obviously a trophy wife, but I seriously doubt that she’s the G.O.A.T.

  17. Teve says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: A friend of mine said “that guy is telling women to lose weight? He looks like he’s pregnant.”

  18. sam says:
  19. Teve says:

    @CSK: she’s pretty, but also kinda weird-looking.

  20. Scott says:

    A small piece of history.

    That time Hitler’s nephew joined the US Navy to fight his evil uncle is the ultimate family drama

    “”My father used to say to my mother, ‘Doesn’t Patty look a lot like Adolf Hitler?'”

  21. Mister Bluster says:

    @OzarkHillbilly:..dog bite…

    “My dog doesn’t bite!”
    How many times have you heard that?
    My response: “How does it eat it’s food?”

  22. CSK says:

    I think the human face can only tolerate so many surgical lifts and so much Botox. If Melania has much more work done, her eyes will be on the sides of her head.

  23. Kathy says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    Well, some dogs I’ve known seem to inhale their food 😉

  24. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Mister Bluster: My sister always answered that question with a definitive “Maybe.”

  25. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: @CSK: I would not say she’s pretty. Striking? Yes. Attractive? Somewhat. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

  26. Sleeping Dog says:


    Each of the Pugs we’ve had, inhale their food as did a 100# mutt that I had in my 20’s. He was like a vacuum cleaner. The 3 Great Pyrenees, the 2 Boxers and a 60# mutt were all leisurely eaters. One of the Boxers would take a mouthful of food and take to a different room to nosh and the Pyrs would lay down with the bowl between their paws and snack for up to a half hour.

  27. DrDaveT says:


    Melania ‘s obviously a trophy wife, but I seriously doubt that she’s the G.O.A.T.

    Who might you nominate? I think of it as “beautiful woman, preferably already a celebrity, marries rich unattractive non-celebrity.” Celebrities marrying each other is a different category.

    Let’s see… Sophia Loren? Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy?

  28. Teve says:

    @CSK: Holy shit that’s it. Those squinty eyes come from face lifts. She’s also had a chin job and probably a nose job. Go look at that before picture. Holy hell.


  29. Teve says:

    Fuck Apple voice-to-text is being particularly horrible right now. I got used to android, where you could write an entire novel without typing a word, and this tablet, this iPad is really great in every respect other than the voice to text is so horrendous. I made a comment a couple of months ago on an apple discussion forum about how bad it is and I literally get multiple emails a day from people responding about how they can’t believe it’s so shitty. If I didn’t need a washing machine and a new AC compressor for my car, I would throw this thing in the trash and get a Samsung tablet.

    There are lots of particularly terrible things I could mention, but here is a particularly bizarre one. You can say a proper noun, like Matt Damon, and it will get the name correct, but every every every time you have to go back and fix the fact that the second word in the proper noun isn’t capitalized. I just had to fix that sentence because Apple wrote “Capitol ice”. Sometimes it works great, sometimes you have to fix multiple errors in every sentence, and sometimes it just drops multiple words in a row for no apparent reason.

    What you just read above? I had to manually fit multiple errors in every sentence, and I just finished this sentence manually because IT got fucked up.

    My next tablet will not be an iPad.

  30. @Teve: For reasons I can’t explain, I read that statement “these dogs are antifa!” in an Al Pacino voice.

  31. Joe says:

    @OzarkHillbilly, Teve and CSK:
    While I am no big fan of Melania, I am also not a fan of having a story about some asshole preacher trying to tell women how to look suddenly morph into shaming a particular woman who was (in this instance) a collateral victim of his reifying bullshit.

  32. Teve says:

    @Steven L. Taylor: I just did that out loud and it’s very funny 😀

  33. Teve says:

    @Joe: I don’t know if you thought I in particular was shaming her but I wasn’t, I was mentioning that she looked kind of weird and then that she had had work done.

    She was a model, she used it to get out of a desperately poor country, were I born poor in Slovenia and a surgery would get me to a manhattan penthouse I would get whatever surgery I had to get and I might not even ask you what the surgery was because we’re burnin daylight here.

  34. Sleeping Dog says:


    Kind of reminds me of a Maureen Dowd throwaway line about Botox users who drop the habit and become Shar Pei’s.

  35. Teve says:

    Melania ‘s obviously a trophy wife, but I seriously doubt that she’s the G.O.A.T.

    That would be Gisele Bundchen. Of course Tom Brady’s also a trophy husband.

    “Who is Tom Brady is also a tour of your husband.” Is how Apple translated that last sentence I spoke. I just might forgo air-conditioning here in Florida just to throw this fucking thing in the trash.

    If you use voice to text a lot, don’t even consider buying an iPad.

  36. Sleeping Dog says:

    With the passage of Biden’s Covid relief package the US economic growth forecasts for the next couple of years are ranging between 5.5% to 7%. The WSJ has an article up this AM, that US eco growth will be so robust that it will unbalance the world economy, not sure that this is our problem. Trump promised economic growth of 4% from his trillion dollar tax cuts to the wealthy and corporations, but growth averaged a bit less than 2%.

    Goes to show, if you want to stimulate growth in the economy, pump money at the poor and middle class, they’ll spend it and mostly spend it in their communities, while the wealthy will mostly save it and a great percentage of what they spend, may not benefit the US economy.

  37. Sleeping Dog says:


    Trophy wife implies that the husband is rich, significantly older and previously married. The difference in Brady-Bundchen ages is pretty normal and neither(?) were married previously. Plus she is worth a lot more than he is.

  38. Teve says:

    A friend of mine who is a hardcore Apple guy in San Francisco says what’s happening is that when Google translates voice to text they rapidly establish a connection to a nearby google server with AI powers, and Apple tries to do it locally on the device which just doesn’t work. I don’t know if that explanation is true or not but it makes sense. There’s no way the chip on this iPad has the capability of a Xeon server with access to a network and more sophisticated software.

  39. dmichael says:

    I have studiously avoided giving any attention to the Harry & Meghan / Oprah sit down but this caught my eye and is wonderful writing: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/harry-and-meghan-the-union-of-two-great-houses-the-windsors-and-the-celebrities-is-complete-1.4504502

  40. Teve says:

    @Sleeping Dog: yeah, maybe my claim of Mutual Trophiness makes no sense and it’s just normal status-in-society selection.

    I’m not thinking super clearly at the moment, but in my defense, it’s 9 AM somewhere.

  41. Teve says:

    @dmichael: A great aspect of Twitter is that it lets you mute words, such that a tweet containing those select words doesn’t appear on your timeline, and Harry and Meghan have been two words I added to my mute list in the last week, along with Greenwald and Cuomo.

  42. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: There’s software called “Fuck Apple voice to text?” Wa! Who knew and how did they get permission for THAT?

  43. Kurtz says:

    @Steven L. Taylor:

    Definitely sounds like a Pacino line.

    Poor Ralph.

    I watched The Firm recently and found it difficult to not say, “diabet-us” everytime Wilford Brimley appeared on screen.

  44. Teve says:


    I know a lot of smart people are out there saying the GOP was so focused on Dr. Seuss that they couldn’t mount effective opposition to the COVID plan. I think they need to learn what I’ve started learning — more voters will remember Seuss when they vote than the COVID plan.


    So you’re saying Republican voters are stupid. I mean, I’m not going to disagree, but it’s weird of you to say that.

  45. Kathy says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    I think Tom’s trophy wives are all called Lombardi.

  46. Gustopher says:


    If you use voice to text a lot, don’t even consider buying an iPad.

    I turn Siri off on all my Apple products because they are convinced that everything I say is “call my father, one of my exes, or the vet.” This would happen even when I wasn’t trying to do anything with the device at all.

    I love my many apple devices, but I didn’t know that text-to-speech had gotten good anywhere. I wonder if I would use it if it wasn’t such an unmitigated disaster.

  47. Teve says:


    The Biden plan gives people stimulus money in a weakened economy, gives schools money to help them reopen, increases money for vaccines, gives states and localities hit by this pandemic money so they don’t have to lay off workers, gives parents money to help them with raising their children, and gives people sick leave. And 3 quarters of Americans support it, and Erickson thinks both that Republicans should have opposed all of that, but that focusing on supporting a few racist Dr. Seuss books is a better idea.

    I’ve rolled Erick Erickson‘s comments around in my head for a while and I’ve tried to come up with different ways of justifying them, but I can only think that he’s just a complete idiot.

  48. Kathy says:


    I’ve limited use for voice commands to my phone. What I would like is a voice control function on Audible and other media players, where you could tell it to pause, go back, skip forward, etc.

  49. Flat Earth Luddite says:


    The formula is simple or at least ought to be: Americans should be able to support a family of four, own a home and send their kids to school on a single median wage.

    Interesting indeed. I’d argue that Republican policies and goals over the last 40+ years have made this ideal impossible. It was possible for my family in the 60s and 70s. Has become increasingly impossible every year since.

  50. Monala says:

    @sam: Exactly. The Twitter left is ticking me off with all their complaints about this bill. Yes, it’s a shame that the minimum wage increase wasn’t included, but that can be revisited in a later bill.

    Yes, it’s a shame that additional unemployment was negotiated down from $400 to $300, but they’re ignoring that the first $10k of unemployment will be exempt from taxation, and it has been extended to September.

    They’re complaining about 16 million people at the upper income limits no longer getting stimulus, while ignoring that 26 million people at lower income levels (college students, adult dependents, people married to non-citizens and their kids), will now get it.

    They’re ignoring that if your income declined from the upper limits since 2019, you can claim the additional stimulus from 2020 on your tax return, and be eligible for the new stimulus. They’re ignoring that the $1400 is per family member – no smaller amounts for children. All in all, the stimulus is going to more people, and most will get more money than they did in 2020.

    They’re ignoring that the Child Tax Credit has been expanded from $2k to $3k, and to $3.6k for children under 6, and this is huge: for the first time, 17yos will be included in the Child Tax Credit, and it will be fully refundable, no matter how much you worked. (In the past, parents had to earn at least $2500 to get the refundable portion).

    They’re ignoring that this increases subsidies for ACA policies, no matter your income, and it shores up pensions for struggling seniors. Add to that everything it does for schools, daycares, vaccine distribution, and states and local governments.

    It’s a great bill, not a perfect bill (nothing is), but fantastic on many fronts.

  51. Monala says:

    @CSK: It’s really weird. I recently saw “before and after” photos of Kimberly Guilfoyle when she was married to Gavin Newsom and now with Jr. She didn’t even look like the same person, and was genuinely pretty in the earlier photos. Same thing when I once saw a photo of Calista Gingrich before she married Newt. Very naturally pretty back then, she now looks like a Stepford wife. It’s almost like these Republican women go through some sort of “Death Becomes Her” process over time.

  52. KM says:


    The formula is simple or at least ought to be: Americans should be able to support a family of four, own a home and send their kids to school on a single median wage.

    Quibble: afford decent housing, not own a home. Wording matters and in some places an apartment can cost as much as a mortgage payment. There’s also the matter of older folks in retirement communities still working and younger adults in dorms just starting out – they shouldn’t be cheated a livable wage just because they’re not in the market for a house right now. Not everyone wants to be a homeowner either so we need to stop pretending renting is the temporary step toward land ownership and not an acceptable goal in it’s own right.

  53. CSK says:

    Melania is quite as bad as her husband, and complicit in some of his worst actions. She was all in on the birther nonsense.

  54. MarkedMan says:

    @Teve: From what Apple has said at their developer conferences, they are not against processing remotely but they are against having possession of your actual text. In other words, they don’t want to be in a position where a government could ask them to spy on a subject. Google does not have the same concerns, to put it mildly. Not only do they want your text, it is likely they include what your say in their directed advertising database. After all, they do it for your email if you have a gmail account.

  55. KM says:

    @Joe :

    shaming a particular woman who was (in this instance) a collateral victim of his reifying bullshit.

    Melania and her people have long marketed her as being the exemplar of this BS. Looks are her whole shtick and they encouraged the MAGAts to view her as The Bestest First Lady EVA!!! She Who is Greater that Jackie O as her brand knows very well people are using her as the standard and gloried in it. She’s no collateral victim when this was how she made her bones – be pretty, be thin and you get/keep that fickle man!

  56. Kathy says:


    I think we can have broad consensus in saying she’s an ugly person, regardless of the fancy wrapper she comes in.

  57. Kylopod says:



    I know a lot of smart people are out there saying the GOP was so focused on Dr. Seuss that they couldn’t mount effective opposition to the COVID plan. I think they need to learn what I’ve started learning — more voters will remember Seuss when they vote than the COVID plan.


    So you’re saying Republican voters are stupid. I mean, I’m not going to disagree, but it’s weird of you to say that.

    Cynical as it is, I don’t think Erickson’s assessment is even accurate. I think the state of the economy and the pandemic will be a lot more on voters’ mind come next election than the GOP’s manufactured-outrage-of-the-day.

  58. Monala says:

    @Monala: Here’s the “then and now” of Kimberly Guilfoyle.

  59. Monala says:

    And here’s Callista Gingrich “then” and “now.”

  60. CSK says:

    I had the Johnson and Johnson vaccine this morning at Mass. General Hospital. If I hadn’t had to wait the obligatory 15 minutes afterward, I would have been in and out in under 10 minutes. You can park for free for up to an hour in one of the MGH garages (conveniently, the nearest one to the site).

    Since like most vaccines, it’s intramuscular, I felt a slight ache in my left deltoid for a few minutes afterward. Nothing now: no bump, no redness, no soreness.

    Something interesting about the J&J: Unlike the Pfizer and the Moderna, it was developed late enough to be tested against the variants.

  61. Kathy says:


    good for you.

    Not aimed at you, I think the 15 minute observation period after COVID vaccines, ought to be accompanied by a centurion saying over and over “remember thou art still vulnerable, remember thou art still vulnerable, remember thou art still vulnerable…”

    Also, there’s an analogy I find useful. think of the phase 3 trial as a beta test. It didn’t find all the bugs and issues, nor did it measure the full function of the vaccine. That we’ll find with mass vaccination.

  62. CSK says:

    According to what I’ve read, the J&J vaccine will, after 2 weeks have lapsed, prevent illness serious enough to cause hospitalization or death. After 4 weeks, you’re protected. I fully intend to keep observing the safety protocols even after April 9.

    Another interesting fact: An MGH nurse who had Covid (and recovered well) said she had a bad reaction to the vaccine. She also observed that this is true of Covid patients in general.

  63. Mister Bluster says:
  64. inhumans99 says:


    It sounds like the voice to text feature on my xfinity remote does a better job than voice to text on an iPad, lol (I also own an iPad, but do not use Siri), which is almost criminal considering Apple is a 2 trillion dollar company (yeesh, it has been a while since I checked the market cap of Apple, a 2 trillion valuation is nuts). This is what happens when companies that can afford to spend on talent do not bother to do so (at the end of the day, Siri is code…so Apple does not care to hire someone who can fix the code).

    The iPad virtual keypad also blows chunks, again…fixable if Apple wanted to fix but they do not care.

    I say this as someone who owns an iPad I use everyday and an Apple TV I use quite often, so I am not the cliché Apple hater, but it is frustrating that they just gave up on making the end user QOL better when using certain gadgets by not fixing the voice to text and virtual keyboard issues.

  65. Monala says:

    @CSK: I’ve seen a few articles that people with long Covid are seeing symptoms decrease after the vaccine, although researchers say it’s too soon to know for sure if it’s a significant cure. Link

  66. CSK says:

    Well, that’s encouraging, isn’t it?

  67. Kathy says:


    I fully intend to keep observing the safety protocols even after April 9.

    Of 2022? 😉

    Just half-kidding. When this thing started, I figured it would end by Summer, because initially it looked more like flu. Once we learned of transmission by air, and especially asymptomatic transmission, I still hoped it would end by around April 2021, because of masks and distancing and lockdowns. But then we saw what happened.

    If not enough vaccines are applied, and people keep lowering their guard, and some of the variants resist the vaccines (even if not enough to put you in the hospital), this thing could go on for another year or two.

  68. Grewgills says:

    I got my second Moderna shot a week and a half ago and still have the bruise.

  69. dazedandconfused says:


    RE Another interesting fact: An MGH nurse who had Covid (and recovered well) said she had a bad reaction to the vaccine. She also observed that this is true of Covid patients in general.

    To be expected. Same as many people reacting hard to their second shot in the two-shot vaccine series. Their already-primed immune systems jump on that second exposure, all gunz a-blazin’.

  70. Pete S says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    Red Green wrote in one of his books:

    That is my dog – fact
    My dog doesn’t bite – opinion

    to help people differentiate between the two.

    His show was probably my favourite Canadian show ever.

  71. CSK says:

    Well, I’m hoping that by this summer we’ll be about 90% back to normal. It would be nice to go to a restaurant again. Not essential, but nice. Of course, I’m mindful of the people who’ve died, and I count my blessings.
    Any other bad side effects? My brother had the Moderna (2 doses) and experienced none. I’m sure he feels fortunate for that.
    I’m going to interpret that as a good sign.

  72. Joe says:

    Some minister proves himself a horrible ass by making asinine and misogynistic comments about [squirrel].

    @CSK: Squirrel!


  73. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Monala: WA! The “then” picture looks like Newt taking his granddaughter out to a fancy dinner. Ewwww!

  74. Kathy says:


    I go to restaurants so seldom, I don’t even miss it.

    Coincidentally, the last time I went to one was in mid-February 2020, as the pandemic was just getting started. It was on a weekend. I had lots of work to do, and lots of cooking. So I went in early to the office and ate breakfast in the coffee shop next door.

    It would be nice to go to the movies. But chances are I’ll see Wonder Woman 84 online rather soon. Surely if I get to stay home next week with little to do.

  75. flat earth luddite says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:
    Indeed. Reminds me of Kinko the Clown by Ogden Edsel. Nope, no link. Find your own, y’all!

  76. CSK says:

    The restaurant was just an example. What I miss is not be able to go where I want and do what I wish when I feel like doing so. (Nothing I normally feel like doing is illegal.) Occasional travel is nice. So is going to the library without having to make an appointment for a specific time on a specific day. The freedom to grocery shop without having to wait in line to get in to the store, and then having to follow the arrows, which actually increases the time you have to spend in the place, which is unfair to the people waiting outside.

    I realize these are all first-world problems. Generally they don’t bother me.

  77. dazedandconfused says:
  78. Stormy Dragon says:


    Another interesting fact: An MGH nurse who had Covid (and recovered well) said she had a bad reaction to the vaccine.

    By “bad reaction” do you mean a strong immune response for a day or two? Because while it feels terrible at the time, that’s actually a good reaction in terms of future immunity.

  79. Kathy says:


    No, these are all worldwide problems just now, except in countries where containment measures worked.

    I do miss taking my time at the store, looking at new products or things I’ve never used in cooking before. I miss sitting down at a table to leisurely drink coffee on weekend mornings. If I’d been working from home, I might miss the office (aka the COVID death-trap). I get it.

  80. CSK says:

    @Stormy Dragon:
    Well, she didn’t specify, but I gathered that she was fatigued and achy. I should add that she also said she reacted rather badly to most vaccines. That’s a large part of it, really: individual body chemistry. I’m lucky in that regard; shots don’t bother me.

    My sister got her first shot of Pfizer a week ago Monday. She said she felt somewhat tired the next day, but a two-hour nap in mid-afternoon took care of that.

  81. CSK says:

    Complaining about them is first world. But I would add that people facing starvation or the very real possibility of being caught up in a war and slaughtered have bigger problems than most of us not living with those threats.

    As to grocery stores: I enjoy them, as you do, because they represent a culinary adventure to me.

  82. Gustopher says:

    @Monala: Perhaps being near the Republican men rots their souls, and that begins to show in the faces after a while. Or plastic surgery. One of the two. Or both.

    You can’t stop aging, you can just make it look weird and unnatural.

  83. Kathy says:

    IN case anyone might possibly be interested (I guess it could serve for future reference), the intestinal prep kicked in yesterday around 9 pm, just as I was driving home from work. It kept going intermittently until I went to bed, then resumed in the morning. For the record, I consumed the potion half at 11:30 and the other half around 14:30.

    Today I took the first half at 8 am and the second at 12 pm. It kicked in around 5 pm.

    Meantime the insurance says the PET CT has nothing to do with the hernia diagnosis.or treatment -you know, the diagnosis that found misplaced and inflamed ganglia-, and doesn’t want to pay for it. I’m urging my agent to keep up the fight, reminding them how many timely payments I’ve made since 2017 when I switched agents.

  84. motopilot says:

    @CSK: I got the Moderna shot #1 this morning at Costco. No line, essentially no wait, relatively painless experience all the way around. They had me wait 15 minutes in case I got dizzy, but felt great. About two hours later I got a little woozy, but nothing all that concerning. The pharmacist that administered the shot said her second one left her feeling unpleasant for two days, but I may not experience the same. I’ll find out on April 6th.

  85. Jax says:

    I’m gearing up for a computer upgrade, new RAM and a new hard drive, you all behave yourselves until I get back, you hear?! 😉

    If somebody could play “You Suck” by Consolidated for bill, that would be great.

  86. CSK says:

    I’m glad it went well for you. The 15 minute wait is standard, AFAIK.

  87. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    Just heard from a friend in Korea. I now know someone who died from SARS CoV-2. 🙁
    Rest in peace, Harvey. Our lives are diminished with you gone.

  88. CSK says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:
    You have my condolences.

  89. flat earth luddite says:

    My oncologist and primary provider both told me years ago that the 15 minute wait is to make sure any allergic reaction isn’t going to be severe. Having had anaphylactic reactions to a couple of medications in my life, I heartily approve of the waiting period. Of course, YMMV.

  90. CSK says:

    @flat earth luddite:
    I agree. It’s a good idea.

  91. Kathy says:


    Get a solid state drive. At work, one of these turned my desk ornament into a working computer.

  92. Bill says:

    C’mon man, you know the guy or something…..

    President Joe Biden appeared to forget who his secretary of Defense is Monday during a White House event promoting two female generals on International Women’s Day.

    “I want to thank the former general,” Biden began, “I keep calling him general, but my… the guy who runs that outfit over there.”

    The guy who runs “that outfit over there,” otherwise known as the Pentagon, is Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, who was confirmed by the Senate in January.

    “I want to make sure we thank the secretary for all he’s done to try to implement what we just talked about,” Biden said later. “And for recommending these two women for promotion.”

  93. Jax says:

    @Kathy: I did. And an additional 32 GB of RAM. I’m seriously already back online!! Still downloading updates and whatnot, but I have never had a windows installation go that fast.

  94. Jax says:

    @Bill: C’mon, bill, do you really want us to have to find allllllll of the times Trump forgot someone’s name over the last four years?! FFS.

  95. Thomm says:

    @Bill: man…must suck that he beat your boy like he owed him money. Actually, he probably does considering how cash poor he is without donations from rubes

  96. Jax says:

    @Bill: Oh look!!! Somebody already put it on YouTube. And that one’s only up to 2019.


  97. Kathy says:


    Remember Yo Semite?

  98. Teve says:

    @flat earth luddite: friend of mine is an epidemiologist, and in the 15 min wait she would have a vasovagal response and pass out for a few minutes. Then she gave birth twice, and she doesn’t pass out any more. 😀

  99. Jax says:

    @Kathy: Pretty much anytime “the jerkwad formerly known as president™ got up in public or typed anything on Twitter, it was spelled or pronounced wrong. It’s like bill never actually SAW the videos or read the tweets.

  100. Teve says:

    @Jax: poor dumb Bill 😛

  101. Kylopod says:

    Hamberders, covfefe, and Tim Apple, oh my!

  102. Kathy says:


    But he said he’s never made a mistake and he’s willing to stake his Noble prize on it!

  103. Jax says:

    @Teve: I’ve decided he doesn’t deserve Capital B Bill, he’s always gonna be little b bill. Little b bill who had the imaginary black girlfriend because he thought it gave him street cred. 😛

  104. Kurtz says:


    32 GB of Ram? Overkill?

    I went with 16GB in my build but focused on timings.

    Did you get an m.2 solid state or SATA?

  105. Kathy says:


    Once upon a time, I upgraded a Win95 Compaq PC to Windows 98. The OS was good, but the computer slooooooowed way down. I then upgraded the RAM from 16 to 32 MB, and it was like a brand new machine.

    Since then, I firmly there’s no such thing as too much RAM.

  106. Jax says:

    @Kurtz: I’ve had a lot of lag time while editing photos and videos from my drone, and getting memory errors on the stopcodes when it choked while editing. The computer can hold 64, and I like to put them in in pairs, so I went from 32 to 64, both brand new sticks.

    And a new 1 TB SATA SSD, I wasn’t real sure exactly what the computer could hold until I cracked into it today, just going off the manufacturer specs it wasn’t very clear. It’s my first MSI computer, so far it’s 4 years old and still doing pretty well. It’s even better after the upgrades, haven’t had any hangups so far.

  107. Kurtz says:


    Fair enough. I suppose it depends on use case as well. Photo/video editing and content creation benefit from a lot of RAM.

    I can personally attest to the difference in os load times between HDDs and SSDs. At boot, with a modern CPU/mobo it was clear.

  108. Kurtz says:


    Awesome! I went without a computer intermittently. If I wanted to write, I went to a library or used the fam’s. I kept putting off building one.

    When I was furloughed for about five weeks last year, I built one for my parents because they really needed a new one. I wanted to do a build, but I figured I’d cut my teeth on a basic one for them first.

    A few months later, I built a rig for myself. I got a high end mobo and went midrange for the cpu and gpu. It turns out I did it at the right time, because had I waited much longer, I would have been frozen out of the gpu market entirely.

    My plan was to grab one of the RX 6000 or RTX 30 series. Yeah…nope. The day nVidia announced the 30 series, a person on OfferUp wasselling the top last generation GPU for like $350. I missed it by 30 minutes. That person made a huge mistake, because they are still going for $1000+.

    Almost as bad for me the night Prime Day had the pricing glitches. I saw a bunch of full-frame cameras and super-premium glass selling for $99. It was right when it started, so had I just placed the orders instead of questioning it, I probably would have been among the few whose orders weren’t canceled. Damn.

  109. Jax says:

    @Kurtz: I like building them, it used to be one of my favorite things to do! Kinda gotten out of the habit since I had kids. Things have changed a lot since the old Pentium 3’s and 4’s were top of the line. 😉 I’ve been suffering through “off the shelf” rigs until I bought this one with the intention of eventually upgrading it.

  110. Kurtz says:


    Yeah. Kids change everything. Then again, you could make one of them do it. 😉

    My first build…i was really careful. Asked a couple of questions on a Discord server. Stayed up all night. Then had everything ready to go… And had to leave for the Dr.

    Got back. Took a deep breath. Hit the switch. Nothing. Thought for a beat before I started going back through cables. Finger snap in my brain. Forgot to flick the PSU switch to the on position. POST immediately upon correction.

    Deep breath.