Saturday’s Forum

Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter


  1. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Glenn Youngkin condemns report his son twice tried to vote in Virginia

    do yourself a favor glenn, say your son just wanted to vote for his father and leave it at that. #1, it’s probably the truth and people will believe it and #2, you won’t come off as a WATB.

  2. CSK says:

    And the election official gave Youngkin the perfect out when she said that the kid was a teenager and teenagers do stupid things.

  3. de stijl says:

    I used to be a pretty good talent at soundtracking the after party. Crescendo Decrescendo.

    Peaks and valleys. Up and down. Never be predictable.

    Unusual picks.

    I used to be able to make grown men who present as hardcore cry. By song choices I made.

    Pick well and order it properly, and you can manipulate the emotional tenor of the room very easily.

  4. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CSK: who would argue wuth that?

  5. de stijl says:

    Joey by Concrete Blonde.

    Some old school CCR. Some Pixies. Some Cure.

    Punk 24/7 is boring. You need pop. You need Patsy Cline at 3 am.

  6. CSK says:

    Well…nobody bright enough to realize that he should just let it drop. Had it been me, I’d have thanked the official for being so understanding–and told the kid not to pull any more dumbass stunts like that. Over and out.

  7. OzarkHillbilly says:

    good news

    Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted
    Jennifer N. Victor@jennifernvictor
    Never let anyone tell you that petitions, sunlight, and public scrutiny don’t work. Nice work, everyone.

    Michael McDonald
    · 20h
    UF has now officially reversed its disapproval of my work in the voting rights lawsuit

  8. de stijl says:


    That tweet was about how the state of Florida thought they had the right and purview to determine and allow professors within the UF system to participate in suits.

    That they were specifically denied in testifying on political shenanigans was not cool. They rebelled. Justice won out. For now.

  9. wr says:

    @de stijl: “Joey by Concrete Blonde.”

    I knew Johnette when the band was still Dream 6 and she was working as the assistant for a fairly low-rent producer I was writing my first paid feature script for. Hell of a nice woman.

  10. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @de stijl: ‘For now’ is all we get.

  11. de stijl says:


    Johnette has the best voice ever. You feel her. Deep.

    Breaks your heart hard.

    Napolitano hooked up with Paul Westerberg which is heaven in heaven. Two heroes.

    My Little Problem.

  12. de stijl says:

    You need a great song at the bottom of the decrescendo. Joey makes grown men cry.

    And she absolutely goddamn kills it. I love her voice.

    Ascending upswing song – Rock Lobster. Also works is Dance This Mess Around.

    Nothing is funnier than punk rock folk dancing to the B52s. They suck so bad as a general rule. Worth it’s weight in gold. Good memory.

  13. EddieInCA says:

    Biden’s Team is pushing back against “Lets Go Brandon” by pushing memes around “Thanks Brandon!” in regards to the blowout jobs number.

  14. de stijl says:

    After party is the best part of the night. Especially at somebody else’s house where I don’t have to be the gracious host.

    Hanging out. Chilling. Relaxing. Bonding. Being cool.

  15. Mikey says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: From the report:

    Youngkin’s spokesman said the governor-elect’s son “honestly misunderstood Virginia election law and simply asked polling officials if he was eligible to vote. When informed he was not, he went to school.”

    Oh, please, what laughable bullshit. How stupid do they think we are? How stupid do they think Youngkin’s son is? I mean, I also have a 17-year-old son and he understands full well that if you’re not 18, you can’t vote in the general election, even if your dad’s one of the candidates.

    I’m certainly willing to accept my son is brighter than Youngkin’s, but you’d think Youngkin’s own team wouldn’t come out and confirm it…

  16. Mikey says:

    What the Polls Really Tell Us About How Critical Race Theory Affected the Virginia Election

    For Youngkin, CRT was a useful way to attract Virginians who had supported Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election. In the Emerson poll, 31 percent of likely Virginia voters who had supported Biden favored state laws against teaching CRT. In the Crooked Media poll, 35 percent of likely Virginia voters who had cast ballots for Biden in 2020 but were planning not to vote for McAuliffe said CRT was a threat. And every survey indicated that the issue was cutting against McAuliffe. In the Emerson poll, two-thirds of respondents who favored a ban on CRT supported Youngkin. In the Fox News poll, nearly 80 percent of respondents who opposed CRT were for Youngkin.

    By October, CRT had become highly salient. In a CBS News survey, 62 percent of likely Virginia voters said “school curriculums on race and history” were a major factor in their choice for governor. That was higher than the percentage who said taxes or mask policies were a major factor, and it wasn’t far below the percentage who said the same about crime or the economy. Among independents, the percentage of likely voters who cited racial curricula as a major factor was 61; among white college graduates, it was 56. And the rising salience was bad news for McAuliffe: Among voters who viewed this issue as a major factor, he was losing by 20 points.

    As a wedge issue, CRT was working. But it wasn’t working by appealing to parents, as Republicans pretended. It was working by appealing to white people. In the Fox News poll, white respondents opposed the teaching of CRT by 24 percentage points, but parents opposed it by only five points. That’s because many parents aren’t white, and the poll’s nonwhite respondents were twice as likely to favor CRT as to oppose it. When Republicans talk about a parental backlash against CRT, they’re not talking about all parents. They’re talking about white parents.

  17. de stijl says:

    A decrescendo song or a valley song I used and abused – Achin’ To Be.

    That’s a 2 am song.

    Westerberg has so many great after party songs. Kickin’ The Stalls. AAA for crescendo.

  18. Jen says:

    @Mikey: Honestly, I’ve thought about it and there’s no good way to spin that story. His son is either an idiot who doesn’t understand basic civics, or he’s an untrustworthy @ss who tried to vote even though he knew he wasn’t eligible.

    There is no “honest misunderstanding” here.

  19. de stijl says:


    If 17 yo you wants to vote R it is youthful shenanigans. If 17 yo you wants to vote D it is Deep State felony conspiracy.

    The distinction is clear.

  20. Mister Bluster says:

    @de stijl:..Joey makes grown men cry.

    Always reminds me of my disabled friend Joe. And yes I cry.
    And I am not angry any more that he did not quit smoking the goddamned cigarettes that killed him.

  21. gVOR08 says:

    MSN quotes Aaron Rogers,

    “There have been conversations with it,” Rodgers said when asked about communication with the NFL over not wearing a mask during media availability.. “I would add this to the mix as an aside, but the great MLK said you have a moral obligation to object to unjust rules and rules that make no sense.”

    Any comment of mine would be superfluous.

  22. Gustopher says:


    do yourself a favor glenn, say your son just wanted to vote for his father and leave it at that.

    Why does everyone assume the kid wanted to vote for his father? Maybe he thinks his dad is a putz.

  23. Sleeping Dog says:

    “Hey! We just want a Quarter Pounder and fries,” a man called out to Dustin from his car.

    “Well we just want to be paid more and treated better,” Dustin replied.

    Good for them.

  24. de stijl says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    I have known too many people that were on a bad path. Booze or drugs.

    I love them. I have had it up to here with you fucking up, though. You can fuck up your life on your time, not on mine. I don’t cope well with chaos.

    A month later I want to know how they are doing. I want to reach out. I want them to be well, but I hate chaos. I hate drunk idiots on my doorstep at 2 am. No. Dude, you are totally line stepping. No.

    Figure it out and call me at a normal time of day several months from now.

    I have lost too many.

    Some figured it out. That is to be cherished.

  25. de stijl says:



    I love it. My dad is an asshole. I really want to vote against him.

    That is a good scenario that makes me hate America less.

  26. de stijl says:


    Have you seen Nobody?

    Bob Oedenkirk really, really wanted the drunk self-entitled assholes to get on the bus.

    Watching Oedenkirk go John Wick is pretty amazing.

  27. Michael Reynolds says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    I tweeted about that piece. This is heroism from people with little to no support network to fall back on. Good for them. Good for the country.

  28. Mister Bluster says:

    @de stijl:..I have known too many people that were on a bad path.

    I married one. Only me to blame for that move.
    Only good thing that came out of that was that I quit drinking.
    I never believed that she would quit drinking just because I did.
    I was sure she wouldn’t stop if I continued to drink.
    The lies were worse than the drinking.

  29. de stijl says:

    @Michael Reynolds:

    I was semi-feral.

    What parental guidance I got was usually counter-productive.

    Had to figure it out on my own. Had help from friends.

  30. de stijl says:

    @Mister Bluster:

    You have preserve a space inside you where you are comfortable.

    If you are damn lucky, you might meet a person you can invite inside. They might invite you inside of their’s.

    People who willingly violate it you need to be rid of. They will harm you. Even if you love them.

    Even if you love someone, sometimes you have to say “no” and back away.

  31. Mu Yixiao says:

    @de stijl:

    Joey makes grown men cry.

    That song wouldn’t even register for me.

    Cat’s in the Cradle, however…

    I went to a very small college (UW Green Bay) in the University of Wisconsin system. When I was there, the enrollment was about 5k. But the University Theatre was the only place within a hundred miles or more that could bring in a show. That’s since changed. But we would fill the 350-seat theatre with some absolutely amazing shows.

    Tom Chapin–brother to Harry Chapin–was one of the performers we brought in.

    My father and I were completely different–and far too alike. He was the son of an immigrant, was fixing cars at 12, served in WWII, and never graduated high school. I was a geek (before it was cool) who read books, was interested in science, was an artist, and could barely tell you where the engine was in a car.

    “Going fishing” with Dad involved the two of us heading out to “the stumps”*. Dad would fish. I would read a book. We may have said a dozen words to each other over the span of several hours. But… we were doing it together.

    Hearing Tom Chapin sing that song made me burst into tears–which made it slightly more difficult to do on-the-fly lighting.

    Joey? It’s just a song.

    * We had a cottage on a lake that was formed by a dam on the river. All the trees that were on the land that flooded remain. “The stumps” were actually the top of 30-foot-tall trees that still stuck out of the water after over a century (the dam was built in 1914)

  32. de stijl says:

    I don’t want to be rude or presumptuous.

    I never knew my dad. Maybe he held me when I was a baby.

    After that nothing. I have no living memories. I’ve seen some photographs.

    I could walk by him on the street and not even know it. Well, not today. He died in 2006.

    In no way I am I dinging you. Your trump card laid I am just not suited in. I am vaguely aware of the concept.

  33. de stijl says:

    @Mu Yixiao:

    4000. Pfft. We were 3500 in a good year. More like 3200. Good D3 hockey school. Oddly good at basketball. Crap at football. St. Thomas and St. John’s smashed us. We could barely beat Macalaster and they once went almost four years without a win.

    UWGB used to field a remarkably decent BB team back in the day.

  34. Jax says:

    How did everybody fare with their Covid boosters this week? I got Moderna again, side effect was brand new, all the lymph nodes in my left armpit and side swelled up. Swelled up so much it looked like a softball was popping out of my armpit when I lifted my arm up, my kids were quite grossed out. 😛

    Got the non-egg-grown flu shot yesterday, no side effects besides a mildly sore injection site.

  35. Jen says:

    @Jax: Pfizer booster, no real side effects at all, not really even a sore arm.

    Glad you got your non-egg flu shot!!

  36. Jax says:

    @Jen: It was interesting that I got a brand new side effect. I only had a headache and arm soreness with the previous two. Plus I got Covid between the two and the booster. Maybe now I’m bulletproof? 😉

    Thanks, me too, on the flu shot. I was pretty happy to find one, after all these years.

  37. MarkedMan says:

    No Sunday Forum? Surely a sign of the Apocalypse?!

  38. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @MarkedMan: was just coming to say that the time change seems to have messed up more than just jj’s and st’s sleep cycles.

  39. CSK says:

    @MarkedMan: @OzarkHillbilly:
    It’s odd, but not unusual. Sometimes the new forum is up and running around 4:30 a.m. Other times, there’s a delay.

  40. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @CSK: stop raining on my wah-mbulance.

  41. CSK says:
  42. CSK says:

    New forum is up. Are you going to post something, or were you just bitching for the hell of it?

  43. James Joyner says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: I woke up around 230 in the adjusted time, watched a recording of last evening’s nailbiter between Alabama and LSU, and then took a nap. Often Steven will have pre-posted the open forum but, alas, I had to do it in real time.

  44. @OzarkHillbilly: I usually remember to post ahead of time, but my wife and I went for a hike in the woods yesterday and so I was barely at a computer and I simply forgot.

    Indeed, if James is posting the forum, it is probably because I forgot. 😉