Sunday’s Forum

Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter


  1. Sleeping Dog says:

    Oh-O Two Sunday forums

    Today’s headline

    Coyote found and removed from boat at yacht club in Lynn

  2. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Lindsey Graham says Black people can ‘go anywhere’ in South Carolina if conservative

    It sounds even worse in context, because if they ever did, Republicans have no values anymore.

  3. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Sleeping Dog: Hmmmm… 2 legged or 4 legged coyote?

  4. Sleeping Dog says:
  5. Sleeping Dog says:


    Just a kit

  6. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Sleeping Dog: Yep, the law and order Daily Caller who was cheering on the beatings of all those left wing BLM/antifa activists now finds it abhorrent that they would be subject to the same treatment.

  7. Bill says:
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  9. OzarkHillbilly says:

    An open letter that made headlines calling for a herd immunity approach to Covid-19 lists a number of apparently fake names among its expert signatories, including “Dr Johnny Bananas” and “Professor Cominic Dummings”.

    The Great Barrington declaration, which was said to have been signed by more than 15,000 scientists and medical practitioners around the world, was found by Sky News to contain numerous false names, as well as those of several homeopaths.

    Others listed include a resident at the “university of your mum” and another supposed specialist whose name was the first verse of the Macarena.

    Sky News discovered 18 self-declared homeopaths in the list of expert names and more than 100 therapists whose expertise included massage, hypnotherapy and Mongolian khoomii singing.
    Individual academics from the universities of Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Stanford, Nottingham, Edinburgh, Exeter, Sussex and York were among experts from around the world who signed the declaration. However, the declaration’s website allows anyone to add their name to the list if they provide an email address, home city, postcode and name.

    Signatories also tell the site whether they are a medical and public health scientist, a medical practitioner or a member of the general public – of whom almost 160,000 claim to have signed.

    It is not clear how many of the names in the declaration’s list of experts are fake, or when they appeared. However, many scientists have already criticised the letter’s conclusions.

    Something tells me the eminent and world renowned physicians Doctors Fine, Howard, and Fine are among the signatories.

  10. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Ah, well, you know the old ditty:

    Lynn, Lynn,
    City of sin.
    They don’t go out
    The way they came in.

  11. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Quote of the day:
    “I accept this award today with an abiding faith in America and an audacious faith in the future of mankind. I refuse to accept despair as the final response to the ambiguities of history.”

    -Martin Luther King in his acceptance speech for the Nobel Peace Prize


  12. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Arwa Mahdawi is, again, not mincing words:

    Terrorists (noun): evil brown people.

    Thugs (noun): violent black people.

    Militia (noun): misunderstood white men. Groups of heavily armed individuals whose actions, while not exactly ideal, deserve compassion and should be looked at within a wider socioeconomic context. Instead of rushing to judgment or making generalisations, one must consider the complex causes (economic anxiety, video games, mental health issues) that have triggered these poor guys into committing mass murder, conspiring to violently overthrow the state or plotting to kidnap government officials.

  13. CSK says:

    Trump’s doctor Sean Conley, an individual whom I don’t regard as one wedded to the truth, says Trump is no longer contagious, according to ABC News.

  14. Sleeping Dog says:


    Lynn, the Lawrence of the North Shore. My best friend grew up in Lynn a couple of blocks from the water, a few years ago we drove through that area and it was a slum. Lynn can’t even gentrify waterfront property and areas where you can stroll to the beach using a walker in 5 minutes.

    You know those quality of life rankings that Massachusetts does so well with? Just imagine if the legislature ceded Lynn, Lawrence and probably Springfield to Mississippi or Alabama, how high the state would rank.

  15. Teve says:

    the Swamp that Trump Built

    As president-elect, he had pledged to step back from the Trump Organization and recuse himself from his private company’s operation. As president, he built a system of direct presidential influence-peddling unrivaled in modern American politics.
    As president-elect, he had pledged to step back from the Trump Organization and recuse himself from his private company’s operation. As president, he built a system of direct presidential influence-peddling unrivaled in modern American politics.
    Federal tax-return data for Mr. Trump and his business empire, which was disclosed by The New York Times last month, showed that even as he leveraged his image as a successful businessman to win the presidency, large swaths of his real estate holdings were under financial stress, racking up losses over the preceding decades.
    Federal tax-return data for Mr. Trump and his business empire, which was disclosed by The New York Times last month, showed that even as he leveraged his image as a successful businessman to win the presidency, large swaths of his real estate holdings were under financial stress, racking up losses over the preceding decades.
    But once Mr. Trump was in the White House, his family business discovered a lucrative new revenue stream: people who wanted something from the president. An investigation by The Times found over 200 companies, special-interest groups and foreign governments that patronized Mr. Trump’s properties while reaping benefits from him and his administration. Nearly a quarter of those patrons have not been previously reported.
    But once Mr. Trump was in the White House, his family business discovered a lucrative new revenue stream: people who wanted something from the president. An investigation by The Times found over 200 companies, special-interest groups and foreign governments that patronized Mr. Trump’s properties while reaping benefits from him and his administration. Nearly a quarter of those patrons have not been previously reported.
    The tax records — along with membership rosters for Mar-a-Lago and the president’s golf club in Bedminster, N.J., as well as other sources — reveal how much money this new line of business was worth.

    Worth posting again because this shows simply the most corrupt president in modern history.

  16. Teve says:

    I need a pair of dress shoes, and I’m feeling typically cheeky, so after not owning any Doc Martens in 20 years, and despite being 44, I just ordered a pair of 8053’s yesterday.

  17. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Amazing, isn’t? Other than those three towns, Essex County is a great place to live. It certainly is one of the most beautiful.

    It’s not impossible to improve once-deteriorating cities. Look at Lowell, particularly the downtown area. Personally, I think they ought to erect a statue to Paul Tsongas on every street corner. He really brought the place back from the dead. RIP, Paul.

  18. CSK says:
  19. CSK says:

    Well, those ought to last you for the next, oh, 25 years.

  20. CSK says:

    The Bulwark has a bumper crop of good stuff today:

    Note the photo of a masked Trump. He has the eyes of a feral pig.

  21. Teve says:

    @CSK: yeah i just need to learn how to take care of the leather. Mink oil? Leather conditioner? Got some learning to do.

  22. Teve says:


    Yesterday we found out the president is likely guilty of $21 million in tax and campaign finance fraud.

    Today we find out for certain he has been literally selling government favors for personal gain.

    Neither are even the third biggest stories of the day.


    Remember when conservatives spent *years* obsessing over a chintzy Clinton land deal worth low five figures?


    These guys never get to say another word again.

  23. DrDaveT says:

    Walking up and down the shore of the lake where I’m vacationing, Biden signs overwhelm Trump signs by about 20:1. The clear winner is the guy whose lawn features the following:

    Biden 2020: I’m a Republican, not an idiot.

    Biden 2020: He won’t teargas your mom.

    I still haven’t seen the one I want, which is “Trump/Putin 2020” — see who reads carefully.

  24. OzarkHillbilly says:

    The 50 Richest Americans Are Worth as Much as the Poorest 165 Million

    The 50 richest Americans now hold almost as much wealth as half of the U.S., as Covid-19 transforms the economy in ways that have disproportionately rewarded a small class of billionaires.

    New data from the U.S. Federal Reserve, a comprehensive look at U.S. wealth through the first half of 2020, show stark disparities by race, age and class. While the top 1% of Americans have a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion, the poorest 50% — about 165 million people — hold just $2.08 trillion, or 1.9% of all household wealth.

    The 50 richest people in the country, meanwhile, are worth almost $2 trillion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, up $339 billion from the beginning of 2020.

    Covid-19 has exacerbated inequality in the U.S., with job losses falling heavily on low-wage service workers and the virus disproportionately infecting and killing people of color. Meanwhile, many upper-middle class professionals are working from home, watching their retirement accounts rise in value after the U.S. Treasury and Fed pumped stimulus into the economy and markets.

    Another key reason for the wealth disparity is that the vast majority of Americans aren’t benefiting from rising stock prices. The bottom 90%’s exposure to the stock market has been dropping for almost two decades. Since peaking at 21.4% in 2002, upper middle class Americans have seen a 10 percentage point decline in their equity interest in companies. A similar pattern is seen among the bottom half.

    The wealthiest 1% own more than 50% of the equity in corporations and in mutual fund shares, the Fed data show. The next 9% of the wealthiest own more than a third of equity positions — meaning that the top 10% of Americans hold more than 88% of shares.

    More at the link.

  25. CSK says:

    Huberd’s Shoe Grease.

  26. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @DrDaveT: Should be “Putin/trump 2020” to reflect who the top dog really is.

  27. DrDaveT says:


    While the top 1% of Americans have a combined net worth of $34.2 trillion, the poorest 50% — about 165 million people — hold just $2.08 trillion, or 1.9% of all household wealth.

    As horrible as that is, it is a slight improvement over recent times. In 2011, the bottom 50% held 0.3% of the wealth. Within my lifetime, the median wealth in the US has been a negative number.

    The raw stats are available at the Fed website.

  28. Bob@Youngstown says:

    @CSK:There is a test that explicitly establishes a patient is not contagious???
    If not, the best Conley can say is that he thinks that Trump is not contagious.

    Trust but don’t verify.

  29. charon says:


    Trump’s doctor Sean Conley, an individual whom I don’t regard as one wedded to the truth, says Trump is no longer contagious, according to ABC News.

    Here is a link with some really nice helpful graphics that I can’t embed:

    I think we can put Trump as symptomatic on Oct. 1, or perhaps Sep 30, less likely.

    Individuals may be contagious for two or three days before symptoms appear and are contagious for a period afterward. In all of this, conditions vary: The CDC says that more severe cases can be contagious for as long as 20 days after the onset of symptoms, for example, though most people are not contagious after 10 days. Symptoms themselves can resolve within days, leading most people to feel fine after a week.

    Those who are infected may test negative for the virus between 17 and 20 days after diagnosis. Notice, though, that they’re also more likely than not to test negative before symptoms kick in: Until Day 4, two-thirds of tests return negative, according to one study, despite the patient probably being both contagious and about to show symptoms.

    (Note: the timeline has contagious at Day 3, symptoms start Day 5).

  30. Sleeping Dog says:


    I’m not as familiar with Springfield, but I chalk up the issues in Lynn and Lawrence to poor public and private leadership. I was in college and grad school during the Tsongas era and long after he was mayor he continued to have a positive influence on the Lowell, not only by being congress critter and senator, but more importantly, the people he brought into government in the city. Both as part of the bureaucracy and elected officials.

    During that period both Lawrence and Lowell completed 25(?) year plans, as an assignment we were instructed to write a comparative critique of the plans, I can’t remember the details, but my recollection was Lowell’s plan had reasonable goals, clear objectives and a plan to meet them. Lawrence? You’re familiar with the gnome underpants business plan aren’t you.

    Lowell had leaders dedicated to it and Lawrence had a bunch of public and private grifters. For Lawrence, that has continued into the 21st century. While the current mayor seems to be tending to the needs of the citizenry, how long was the city held in receivership by the state before he arrived?

    The other Essex Cty city that gets forgotten in this comparison, is Haverhill. Its economic bottom was never as low as Lawrence or Lowell, the mills abandoned that city as well, but it continued to struggle along. It helped that its leadership after WWII was percipient enough to annex the townships that surrounded it thereby capturing the tax base of what became the suburbs.

  31. charon says:


    As long as I am posting linkies, here is the other I really like:

  32. Sleeping Dog says:


    Avoid petroleum based leather treatments, they actually contribute to the drying of the leather. Use saddle soap and a soft brush to dislodge grime and clean the leather followed up by a good leather treatment. The truth is that even if you do nothing but wear them, you’ll be able to will them to your grand daughter and maybe great grand daughter.

  33. Teve says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    a good leather treatment.

    I’ve seen a lot of contradictory info on this. Any suggestions about the leather treatment?

  34. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    Dan Rivera in Lawrence seems to be trying. Good luck to him.

    What people always said about Tsongas was that he really, truly understood the importance of small businesses in bringing about urban renaissance, and it’s true–he did. Also, people actually live in downtown Lowell now, in old department store and mill buildings that have been converted to really gorgeous condos, so they have a vested interest in seeing the area improve.

    Haverhill seems to be trying its best to imitate Lowell. I hope they succeed. By the way, if you’re ever on Washington St., have breakfast at The Artist Cafe there.

    That’s why I say that I don’t have a great deal of faith in Conley’s pronunciamentos. He’s cowed by Trump.

    Good info.

  35. OzarkHillbilly says:

    God is a woman: ‘Smart’ male chastity device can be controlled by hackers, users warned

    The maker of a “smart” male chastity device has recommended using a screwdriver to break it open after warnings it can be locked remotely by hackers.

    And She has a wicked sense of humor.

  36. Sleeping Dog says:


    I’ve been using something called Boot Guard that I picked up a LL Bean and that seems to work well. Red Wing Shoes has something called Natural Leather Conditioner that is similar. A consideration in the choice of leather treatments is whether the leather is smooth or rough, typically on the label it will say if it is not recommended for rough out boots.


    …have breakfast at The Artist Cafe there.

    On the list for post-covid.

  37. de stijl says:


    I own three pairs. The nice black ones. The beat to hell black ones. And the oxblood ones.

    Oh, and the mid calf black boots too. Which I rarely wear anymore.

    I picked up some US Navy recruit boots decades back with a steel box toe and steel sole plate. They weigh a ton, but worth every ounce. I clean them, but never shine them – scuffed is better. Those are good-ass Nazi kicking boots.

  38. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:

    Oh, boy, I just found out that The Artist Cafe is permanently closed. Damn, damn, damn. In addition to providing wonderful breakfasts–the chef would also make things to order–the owner-operator would display the work of local artists.

    The food was fantastic.

  39. de stijl says:


    Were it me, I’d get two pairs. Keep one pair fancy and pretty and buffed. The other to get scuffed and stay that way and get more scuffed through the years.

    It’s good you are getting the ones with the padded collar. My oxbloods don’t and they chafe my ankles.

  40. CSK says:

    Just when you think Trump’s behavior couldn’t get any more ludicrously unbelievable:

    According to the NYTimes, he wanted to appear frail when leaving Walter Reed. Then, after arriving at the White House and ascending the staircase, he would rip off his shirt to reveal, beneath it….a Superman t-shirt.

    A Superman t-shirt.

    He was dissuaded from doing this. The Trumpkins would have loved it. Talk about owning the libs, and all those dumb doctors.

  41. de stijl says:

    I have a brown belt and brown shoes, but in practice I almost never wear them.

    Black is a choice. Brown is a compromise.

  42. Teve says:

    @de stijl: The last pair I owned, 20 years ago, didn’t have that rolled collar, and they destroyed the skin over my achilles tendons.

  43. Mikey says:

    @CSK: I would have liked to see how that actually went over, considering his difficulty breathing after ascending a short flight of stairs. Somehow I don’t think “Superman” and “obvious respiratory distress” really match up well.

  44. CSK says:

    Maybe he figured that standing there saluting nothing for several minutes on end would convey a similar message without the unnecessary exertion of ripping open his shirt.

  45. CSK says:

    It occurred to me that the Superman t-shirt might be appropriate, if you think of Trump as the Man of Steal.

  46. charon says:


    A Superman t-shirt.

    Toxic masculinity, tough guy dominates, defeats sissy virus. It’s why it’s more men that are aggressively anti-mask.

    He was dissuaded from doing this. The Trumpkins would have loved it.

    Of course, a living Ben Garrison cartoon.

    The Trumpers are really into patriarchal sexism which, together with authoritarianism, is mostly what fundamentalist religiosity revolves around.

  47. Monala says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: case in point: Walker Bragman, who penned “The Progressive Case for Donald Trump” back in 2016, who tweeted about economic conditions are what led to the Michigan plot against the governor. He’s been thoroughly ratioed on Twitter, with this link as an example of an excellent takedown (including screenshots of Bragman’s original tweets).

  48. de stijl says:


    Every villain thinks he is the superhero.

  49. CSK says:

    I, too, thought of Ben Garrison when I read this. If he hasn’t already done a Trump-as-Superman cartoon, he must be hard at work on one now.

  50. de stijl says:


    My friend Jenny had the mid calf boots in red. She was a total bad-ass.

  51. Mister Bluster says:

    @de stijl:..Black is a choice. Brown is a compromise.

    Brown Shoes Don’t Make It
    Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
    Absolutely Free

    This opus is so NOT suitable for even this blog I shall not provide a link. If you want to review this depravity you are on your own.
    However just in case Donald Trump is reading OTB today I share this passage from the libretto.

    I’d like to make her do a nasty
    On the white house lawn

  52. Teve says:

    @de stijl: when i was young i wore the typical 1460, but I’m going for an older and more professional look now.

  53. de stijl says:

    Yo! @JohnSF , another ’90s band:

    Aztec Camera

    The Crying Scene (I’m saving up my tears)
    Good Morning, Britain (ft. Mick Jones)

    They do a solid-ass cover of True Colors.

    I own The Crying Scene on 12 inch vinyl.

  54. Sleeping Dog says:


    Dr Taber owns Mr. Bragman (interesting name), that leaves me wondering how large a corn cob she will use on him.

  55. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: If you’re not going to use Kiwi (and it may not be a good idea–I can’t see the finish on the leather) neatsfoot, mink or some other oil will work fine. I used to use saddle soap to clean shoes that I didn’t put polish on, but my shoes were buck and oil discolored the leather.

  56. de stijl says:


    Screw that!

    Maybe this is just me, but I really do not want to be in business with someone who is too professional, too polished.

    When I changed banks, they initially set set me up with a personal banker who was slick as ice and a Wharton graduate. He might be a fine dude, but that level of polish is a solid turn-off to me when it comes to money.

    I went with the scrappy young woman with a BA from St. Kate’s with visible tattoos. She had pink roots. I want someone who does not view money as a game; someone who knows what next month’s rent feels like personally. Plus, she’s funny and really smart.

    I know I am well outside the norm on this.

    Be polished and professional, but not too much so. I am telling you what to do, which is very bad. Be you.

  57. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @CSK: Yeah! I could see the label on the can in my mind’s eye but couldn’t see the name. 🙁 Used in on work boots and hiking boots back when I could still hike.

  58. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: Also, if you really intend to have them last for decades, have you figured out where you’ll take/send them to be resoled? I ask because the nearest cobbler to me is about 80 miles away and didn’t do a good job the last time–the sole came apart almost immediately. 🙁

  59. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Bob@Youngstown: In this case, distrust and do verify would probably be more prudent. 😉

  60. de stijl says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    Have you seen the soles on Doc Martin’s?

    It would take you centuries to wear them down.

  61. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @de stijl: Get a pair of heel cup inserts for your oxblood shoes. Not enough lift to change your gait, but enough to lift your ankle out of the chafing zone. I put them in my bowling shoes. Bought mail order, but it was the only way to get 2-tone ones like bowling alleys have. 🙂

    (Bowling in shoes that aren’t two-toned is just wrong. 🙁 )

  62. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @CSK: I wish he’d done it. That would have been hilarious! That would have broken the internet!

  63. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @de stijl: Brown shoes harken back to when I was a teenager and businessmen still wore brown or olive suits. Haven’t seen an olive suit in about 50 or 60 years.

  64. de stijl says:

    I bought a sixer of Pilsner Urquell last time at the store.

    The bottles are brown.

    Didn’t they used to be green? I swear they used to be green. Am I misremembering?

  65. Gustopher says:

    @de stijl:

    Black is a choice. Brown is a compromise.

    About 15 years ago I went from being a black shoe guy to being a brown shoe guy. I’ve been happier — more open, more comfortable with myself, less trying to be something I’m not.

    Brown shoes have a warmer, friendlier look, and look better beaten up.

  66. Gustopher says:

    @de stijl: Now, the peppermint green… that’s a choice.

    I think it would be a very good choice.

  67. de stijl says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    I have a summer suit in light olive and a winter suit in dark olive with black stripes.

    I can look sharp as shit when I put my mind to it.

    Always with black belt and shoes. Blue or white shirt and a burgundy or gold tie.

  68. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @de stijl: I’ve routinely worn out the soles on even hiking boots in about a year-18 months. But I used to wear the same shoes almost every day and was on my feet for 10-14 hours at a go, so ymmv. The soles on my work shoes were always heavy enough that I used to change shoes to drive so that I was sure I was feeling the gas and brake pedals accurately.

    Even now, I have only two or 3 pairs of shoes–including my winter boot with lug soles in case it snows. I’ve almost never owned more than 2 pairs of shoes at a time.

  69. de stijl says:


    Be you. Not judging you at all. (Well, maybe a tiny bit.)

    I feel way more comfortable and me in black.

  70. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @de stijl: No. I sometimes drank Pilsner Urquell when I was in Korea and I remember green bottles too.

  71. JohnMc says:

    @Gustopher: It’s of no use and no interest to anyone, I bet, which makes it a perfect memory item in my odd brain, but there is an interesting intramural split in the US Navy between the Aviators (the ‘brown shoe navy’) who favor khakis and Surface Warfare Officers who wear the black shoes and dress uniforms.

    Quiz on Tuesday!

  72. JohnMcC says:

    Help! Moderation done got me!

  73. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @de stijl: I’d have to see it, but to my sense, the light olive with black shoes and belt would not coordinate well. But I am pretty provincial. If the dark olive looks good with the black stripe–and I assume it must or the mill wouldn’t make the fabric–the black belt and shoes may be the only good combination. Black will overrule all other considerations–again, in my provincialism.

    I can’t remember the last time I saw suitings in anything other than charcoal, blue or grey. Then again, I haven’t looked for suits since I had some made while I was in Korea, either. (One charcoal, a blue banker stripe, and a grey hopsack for summer wear.)

  74. de stijl says:

    I see guys in navy or gray suits sporting a brown belt and brown shoes.

    Part of me says “Not your business. Pay attention to what he says and how he acts.”

    Part of me also says “That is SO wrong.”

    We are all shallow in our own ways. I usually am pretty non-judgey about looks and hair and clothes, but in certain contexts I am judgey. In no way is that absolute. A brown shoe fella can also be really good at his job.

    I was always more comfortable with women. My first real office job was me, 27 women and one other guy. I lack the knowledge to judge their attire.

  75. de stijl says:


    I lean towards the yellow. Who has yellow boots? You see yellowish wellies in the UK sometimes.

    Nobody in the US wears wellies except dairy farmers and those are usually black or dark green.

  76. de stijl says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    I wore bowling shoes for years. Black and burgundy. Really good for dancing, btw.

    Not good on pavement. I wore a hole in the sole in front of the instep.

    Loved those shoes. Do not wear when it is raining.

    Theoretically, one could wear down a Doc Martin’s sole. It would take you decades or longer.

  77. Gustopher says:

    @de stijl:

    I lean towards the yellow. Who has yellow boots?

    Half of all humans in the 1980s Transformers cartoon.

  78. Gustopher says:

    @de stijl: navy can work with brown. Usually doesn’t, though. But with a chocolate brown, totally doable. Add a light blue and chocolate brown tie.

    I stick to olives and browns in my suits, and I haven’t worn a suit in ages. Plaid brown pants and a brown suit jacket is as formal as I go these days.

  79. Teve says:


    “A Biden landslide is the only thing that can possibly, finally break the fever that has destroyed the GOP as a legitimate right-of-center political party, and turned it into a paranoid, media-driven, fact-free festival of fear and animus.”


    In 1964 Richard Hofstadter thought that the GOP’s rightwing fever would break after Goldwater’s trouncing. Subsequent Democrats hoped for moderation of GOP after Watergate, Iran/Contra, 1992 loss, 2008 loss and 2012 loss. It’s a fantasy that refuses to die.

  80. de stijl says:


    Solid point.

    There was a Saturday morning show. There was a pink girl, a blue boy, a somebody green, and a red one (ostensibly not a Communist).

    Not Go-Bots. That was a Transformers rip-off.

    When I search “Pink girl Japan cartoon” Google suggests salacious sites.

    The action scenes were just ripped from the Japan version but they substituted Western actors for the talky bits in between.

    I cannot recall the name for the life of me.

    Btw, best Saturday morning show ever was Pee Wee’s Playhouse. IFC sometimes does a late night run. Cowboy Carl is Lawrence Fishburn who has a monster crush on Miss Yvonne. Captain Carl. Chairy. Globey.

  81. de stijl says:

    There should be a word for not being able to search because you lack the terms.

    You stare blankly at the search box flummoxed.

    The Germans probably already have this one covered. Lacking the terms to do a proper search.

    I come in sideways all the time. Who was that actor in that one movie?

    If I can recall one name I can go to imdb and scroll down their CV and find it and use that to find what I was after.

  82. de stijl says:


    For every 2008 there is a a 2010.

    R voters are better at showing up in off-year elections.

    Reaction is a strong motivator.

  83. Sleeping Dog says:


    Article at Politico on the future of the R’s and how Gen Z could be the death of Trumpism.

    Certainly, upcoming generations that are diverse and happy about it and not religious will drive a stake through the R stool of warmongers, bigots and fundamentalists. They can’t continue to be competitive and keep advocating for that coalition.

  84. Sleeping Dog says:
  85. wr says:

    @de stijl: Do you mean Power Rangers?

  86. de stijl says:


    Yes! Thank you!

  87. CSK says:

    Seen on Facebook:

    13 = I am the worst number.
    666 = No, I am the worst number.
    2020 = Bitches, please.

    And on a Boston theater marquee:
    “I think we can stop bragging about having been through the Blizzard of 78.
    2020 wins.”

  88. de stijl says:

    Aztec Camera do a slow tempo slightly off-key version of Van Halen’s Jump.

    It is so different that it takes people a minute or two to realize that this is that song.

    All respect to Eddie. RIP

  89. Mister Bluster says:

    An excerpt from The Quiet Americans: Four CIA Spies at the Dawn of the Cold War — a Tragedy in Three Acts
    By Scott Anderson

    And so this one day I was in San Salvador, the capital of El Salvador, and I was walking along a downtown street, and a van passed me. It pulled to a stop maybe – I don’t know – a hundred feet ahead of me. And out came a body of a dead woman. Her thumbs were tied in front of her. And just – the body was just tossed out on the street. And as – I was the only person on this street. And as I kind of tentatively walked towards this woman who I, you know, clearly knew was dead, even before I got to her, a matter of maybe 10 seconds after the first van had pulled away, a military van pulls up. Three soldiers get out. One points a gun at my feet, kind of the universal, you know, stay back symbol, and the other two men – the other two soldiers pick up the body, throw it in their van. They all get back in the van and drive away.
    So it was this very kind of – very seamless sleight of hand idea where the, you know, the so-called anonymous death squad has dumped this body, and literally 10 seconds later, the government has come to collect it. And there was something in that moment that just, for me, it just really brought home this idea of, you know, what has the American government come to that we are supporting governments who will murder their own citizens and just throw their bodies out in broad daylight? And so that was really kind of a turning point for me of just how squalid had our foreign policy become.

    This was 1984.
    Not that long ago I would not think anything like this could happen in the United States in my lifetime. But then it struck me it already has.

  90. Teve says:


    ‘Multiculturalism has failed,’ angrily types man in a Germanic language using Roman letters, on a device coded with Arabic numerals, before leaving in a huff to go watch cartoons made in Japan

  91. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Monala: Walker Bragman should live where I live. White trash don’t live among trash because they are poor, (I’ve been poor, I know poor, I also know trash, and the 2 don’t mix without a healthy dose of LAZY) they live among trash because they are TOO FUCKING GAWD DAMNED LAZY TO PICK IT UP!!! And there is a difference between trash and junk. Junk, which the poor also accumulate is stuff that might actually be useful someday. Trash… is just trash. Some people can’t tell the difference (usually better off folks but some who just don’t want to) but live out here in the hills and hollers for a while, and you can soon tell the difference.

    Also, I wonder if mr. bragman has priced the cost of ammo lately. Even if one reloads, it ain’t cheap. And from the sound of the firefights coming from the local shooting range, these idiots have more than enough money.

  92. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @de stijl: I wear wellies.

  93. OzarkHillbilly says:
  94. Teve says:

    I was just now watching highlights from tonight’s NBA game on YouTube, when an ad interjected, and in the split second before I could hit mute, I heard, “President Trump will protect preexisting conditions from the Big Government libera-”

    Trump ads are aimed at the most clueless people we have.

  95. gVOR08 says:

    @Teve: Saw a Trump ad yesterday.

    ‘Promises made, promises kept. Trump promised to protect Social Security and Medicare and they are still strong.’

    As far as I’m aware all he’s ever done on SS and Medicare is to talk about cutting the payroll tax. But then, as you note, his ads aren’t targeted at me.

  96. JohnMcC says:

    @Teve: “Trump’s ads are aimed at the most clueless people we have”…. Well, you’re watching them….

    ‘Course I see ’em too on the sports pages. But I bet we’re both noticed they’re remarkably outspent by the DNC/Biden ads…

  97. de stijl says:


    You are a practical person.

    Remember galoshes? Stupidest thing ever. Protect dress shoes from water in the clumsiest way. A smart person would wear practical footwear during the getting there part and then switch out to dress shoes if that were required.

  98. de stijl says:

    The deformalization of dress codes during my lifetime has been remarkable.

    No one needs a suit to be professional. The concept is stupid. It harkens back to an age where only rich people could afford the money to buy one.

    I have worn a suit three times in the last ten years. I’ve worn a tie once in that same span; I was surprised my hands remembered how to tie a half Windsor knot.

    I spent a lot of money on clothes I never wear anymore. (I have some bitchin’ great ties)

    This trend is to the good. And way overdue.

    The thought that clothes make the person is fundamentally flawed. It takes surplus money to buy needlessly expensive and impractical clothing. That means that only the relatively wealthy are allowed those positions.

    Away with all of that classist idiocy.

    I prefer the now where wearing a suit and tie is seen as grasping and pretentious.

    When I was a kid fashion had gone insane and thought that ludicrously over wide lapels and stupidly fat ties should be the norm. Let’s not even talk about leisure suits in pastels. There is a lot to hate about the 70s.

    Away with all of that nonsense.

  99. JohnSF says:

    @de stijl:
    Missed this (maybe past my bedtime!): yep, Aztec Camera Stray excellent album.
    Get Outta London!
    I’ve heard some other good stuff, but Stray wins for my money.

    1990 was an excellent year for music! Lets see:
    Heaven or Las Vegas
    I Don Not Want What I Cannot Have
    Ragged Glory
    She Hangs Brightly
    This Is Our Music
    Time’s Up
    Black Sheets of Rain
    Little Fluffy Clouds single
    Vision Thing
    Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
    Some Friendly

    One hell of a year!
    (Souixsie’s Peepshow and Talk Talk’s Spirit of Eden both a couple of years prior, but still feels 1990 to me! Cause I was listening to them a lot!)