The “It’s Already October!” Forum
Steven L. Taylor
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Saturday, October 1, 2022
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About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored
A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog).
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From the New Yorker: How the War in Ukraine Might End
It’s a thought provoking read, not too long.
via Adam Silverman, this from Zelenskyy’s speech yesterday:
So yeah, it’s gonna be a while before this war ends.
Hector Lopez, Who Broke a Baseball Color Barrier, Dies at 93–
@OzarkHillbilly: Ftr, I know Ukraine can not join Nato while it is engaged in hostilities. I only included that part of Zelenskyy’s address to show where he is determined to take things.
@Lost in Quebec: Thanx for that. I’d never heard of Hector Lopez.
WaPo laysoff one of the best journalists covering law enforcement/criminal justice abuse and corruption for not being hot-takey enough:
I post this here so as to not hijack the other thread that is more focused on insurance…
FL seems to get a lot of, um, attention. Especially from folks who are more leftish in their inclinations. It’s not clear to me how I should think about this.
To be sure, there are a lot of things to, um, comment on wrt FL. I am not seeking a list of all its quirks (though I’m sure commenters will offer them, which is fine), as I don’t think this helps me understand why FL draws such attention relative to other states.
After all, lots of states have peculiar people, geographies, politicians. etc. And FL is not the only “swing state.”
Although it’s possible, I am skeptical of the notion that FL is an outlier and it is this feature that draws such attention and ire. Rather, my prior is that we are more aware of FL’s quirks because it gets more attention.
And this brings me back to my question: Why does FL get so much attention? And especially from the left?
***Of course, it is possible that my premise is mistaken such that FL does not get outsized attention.***
@Mimai:..FL…
You may have addressed this in the past and I missed it.
Please provide a phonetic pronunciation of the name that you use on these OTB threads
@Mimai: Well, for starters it’s spelled Floriduh! Plus the nonstop appearances of Floiduh! man and Floriduh! woman in the news are always good for a laugh or 3. It’s not that Misery Man and Misery woman are any brighter (have you heard the one about the hilbilly who was installing cable in his home and used his pistol to drill a hole in the wall? Kilt his wife he did, quite the knee slapper that one), it’s just that there aren’t as many reporters and cameras in the hills and hollers as there are in the Floriduh! swamps and beaches.
@Mimai:
Just a wild @ss guess, but FL was in memory, a reasonably reliable bluish state. Dems got elected to congress in districts outside major cities, it wasn’t unusual for Dems to hold both senate seats, the governorship and the state legislature. Heck, even in 2020 there was tittering about Biden polling ahead of Trump early in the campaign. That was all a illusion of course.
Another guess. We’ve had some discussion that progressives don’t really understand the Hispanic-Latin community and make assumptions about it that aren’t based in evidence. This results in progressives outside of FL being continually disappointed when those communities vote R. Add a dose of the FL R party is dominated by the “Florida Man” profile that avidly pursues the culture war over social issues…
Thanks for the reminder! My rent is due today and I need to transfer the funds.
@OzarkHillbilly:
I’ve repeatedly seen it written that countries at war can’t join NATO.
But for the life of me, I can’t find anything in the treaty itself that says so.
Most likely won’t but not legally can’t.
@JohnSF:
I’ve looked it up too, and as far as I can see there is no such ‘rule’ in the Treaty.
Maybe it’s been a practice, an unwritten ‘policy.’
@Mimai: There are a lot of reasons Florida gets so much attention but I heard of a new one recently. There is some public records law there that makes it easy to get police reports from all over the state. In, say, Georgia if there is some ridiculous small town incident involving meth, alligators and a complete ignorance of the laws of physics, a reporter would have to happen upon it. As I understand it there is a centralized way to get all such tales in Florida.
@Mimai: Well, while a few other states have gators, as far as I know, the only state that can source video of a gator being removed from a broad, nice-looking city boulevard by an animal control worker and a cop during which the cop gets knocked unconscious by the gator is Florida. It’s a confluence of factors which are not really Florida’s fault.
I would say that yes, Florida gets more of this sort of attention than it has earned.
But you know, I don’t think Florida gets beat on by the left NEARLY as much as California does by the right.
@JohnSF:
My understanding is that there is language to the effect that applicant nations need stable, recognized national boundaries.
The Ruskies have retreated from Lyman. GO UKRAINE!
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/10/01/world/russia-ukraine-war-news
@OzarkHillbilly:
While growing up in North central NY, I went to many minor league games including ones where Lopez managed the Buffalo Bisons against the Syracuse Chiefs. My Uncle Abe ran a concession stand at MacArthur Stadium in Syracuse. I used to spend summers staying with my Uncle and working the stand (or better yet watching the games)
For five years I was official scorer for the Watertown Pirates but that was in the 1990’s.
Since the Pirates left town in 1998, I have seldom been to minor league baseball games. Minor league hockey games yes.
@Sleeping Dog:
I’d heard that, but never seen the text quoted.
So i went and had a look.
Can’t see anything.
Quite likely NATO has declared that as an agreed policy: but that doesn’t bind them one bit.
Unlees it’s in writing in the legal text, any such declaration can be reversed.
Practically, though, the unanimity requirement would probably scupper it: either Turkey or Hungary highly likely to veto.
But if those arms could be twisted….
@Mister Bluster:
Most people pronounce it: fʌkwɪt
Truth be told, it’s an acronym that doesn’t have a standard pronunciation.
@JohnSF: Turkey was bought off for Sweden and Finland just a while back IIRC. They’ll be for sale again if the right offer is made.
@Mimai:.. fʌkwɪt…
Not sure how long it took me to see that it is not a city in Florida.
@Mimai: I thought it was an anagram of Miami. Shows what I know.
@JohnSF: Thanx for the edification.
@MarkedMan: Casenet here in Misery. At least, that is how I kept track of all my ex-wife’s foibles
You know, we cap the home mortgage deduction on your income tax. What if we put an equivalent cap on how much federal aid we provide for disaster relief for individual home damage?
@Lost in Quebec: I have yet to go to a minor league game. I hope to drag my eldest son to a game of every minor league Cards team.
I will appreciate every moment of it, I expect my son will too.
If I can, I will go to every Cubbies minor league game too.
At my brothers and he just brought out the Macallan 12, the Lagavulin 16, and the Ardbeg An Oa for a round of tasting
@MarkedMan:
Slainte!