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Steven L. Taylor
About Steven L. Taylor
Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter


  1. Bill says:
  2. OzarkHillbilly says:

    Abandoned in Iraq: Inside Two Soldiers’ Harrowing Escape
    The true story of U.S. soldiers left for dead in Iraq, their epic battle for survival, and the military cover-up that kept them silent for over a decade.

    It’s a good read, not too long.

  3. Jen says:

    Brad Parscale has been hospitalized after his wife called police saying that he was threatening to harm himself.

  4. Sleeping Dog says:

    Gee, the irony. Days before the first debate the WaPo drops a story detailing how The Former Reality Show Host, attempted to manipulate his ailing father to turn over control of his businesses to him. Effectively disenfranchising his siblings.

    Then, to gild that lily, the NYT dumps the FRSH’s tax records for all to see.

    Ya think Chris Wallace will be asking about this tomorrow?

    Wonderful things are happening to a deserving man.

  5. Bill says:

    The other than Trump’s tax returns headline of the day-

    Man Spent Donations to Black Lives Matter on Himself, Prosecutors Say

  6. BugManDan says:

    @Jen: So your saying a 6’8″ mentally unstable man with guns is less scary to the police than an unarmed autistic 13 year old?

  7. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @BugManDan: Yup.

  8. Jen says:

    @BugManDan: There’s that, but also the timing is peculiar. I’m wondering how much grift/siphoning off of resources has been going on, and what might be visible in whatever documentation the NYT has at hand.

  9. Kathy says:


    Liver ice cream? Pass.

    My parents tried to trick us into consuming liver by cooking it like milanesas (covered in egg wash and bread crumbs and fried), but they couldn’t disguise the foul taste. I never fell for it.

    I’ve heard of meat milkshakes, too. And garlic ice cream. I like both, especially garlic*, but I wouldn’t care to try either.

    * My garlic philosophy: one clove of garlic isn’t enough for any recipe, unless you’re making a dish called “one clove of garlic.” Even then, you should use two.

  10. CSK says:

    Parscale might have found himself running out of funds to subsidize what appears to be a very lavish lifestyle. He seems to have taken a lot of money from the Trump campaign.

  11. BugManDan says:

    @Kathy: My mother tried everything to get me to eat liver, nothing worked except fingers tightly holding my nose while quickly chewing and swallowing. And, of course, the promised ice cream if I finished.

  12. CSK says:

    Yesterday a reporter from the foreign press asked Trump about Azerbaijan. Trump replied that “We’re looking at that very strongly.”

    Two questions:
    1. Do you believe Trump knows where Azerbaijan even is? Or even what it is?
    2. How do you look at something “very strongly”?

    I think he bailed from the press conference right after the Azerbaijan question.

  13. BugManDan says:

    @CSK: Azure by Jean is the “premium” cologne being developed by his kids, right?

  14. Sleeping Dog says:
  15. CSK says:

    Great tweet:

    “Donald Trump is so poor, he can’t even own the libs.”

  16. CSK says:

    Yeah, to go along with Ivanka’s “Complicit.”

  17. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Kathy: My garlic philosophy: one clove of garlic isn’t enough for any recipe, unless you’re making a dish called “one clove of garlic.” Even then, you should use two.


  18. Kathy says:


    2. How do you look at something “very strongly”?

    You get a major league pitcher to throw cameras at it.

  19. BugManDan says:


    @Kathy: My garlic philosophy: one clove of garlic isn’t enough for any recipe, unless you’re making a dish called “one clove of garlic.” Even then, you should use two.


    Maybe garlic is the solution to the liver problem. One head of garlic per bite of liver.

  20. Jen says:

    @Sleeping Dog: We were out on the bike for a ride yesterday, and saw quite a few more Biden signs out than just a few weeks ago.

    I am not allowing myself to get hopeful just yet.

  21. Neil Hudelson says:

    Liver is great!

    If it’s sourced from a fattened goose.

    Preferably from the U.S. or Spain.

  22. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @BugManDan: I have a # of recipes for Liver. They all end with, “Feed it to the dogs.”

  23. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @BugManDan: No edit function above: I will confess to a weakness for braunschweiger. I love that shit. A vegetarian buddy of mine says it is the one thing he misses.

  24. KM says:

    More evidence is coming out about the police CYA in Breonna Taylor’s death. It’s starting to look like they withheld evidence from the grand jury and was actively trying to manipulate the outcome. Hankison, the fired officer is on camera entering the apartment while officers are investigating and is asking some pretty leading questions that shows he knew they screwed up big time.

    In the body camera footage posted on VICE, Hankison can be seen about a shell casing on the ground, saying, “That’s theirs?”

    “That’s ours, it looks like,” an unidentified officer responds, before telling Hankison to “back out until they get PIU (the Public Integrity Unit) in here.”

    Hankison doesn’t exit right away, instead asking, “Are there any guns visible?” as he shines a flashlight into the apartment. He then asks if there’s a “long gun.”

    The former detective’s presence at the crime scene would violate LMPD policies intended to keep away officers involved in a shooting from the active investigation.

    Even FOX is posting that the officer immediately feared he was going to get fired and it looks like he was trying to tamper / influence things to go his way. Frankly, I’m surprised he didn’t started asking if they happened to find drugs or a knife conveniently in plain sight…..

    Question to all the lawyers out there: if it comes out they deliberately withheld evidence from the grand jury, what’s the recourse? What happens now?

  25. Scott says:

    @Kathy: My philosophy is: you can’t have too much garlic.

    On the other hand, my Mom made liver and onions and I rather liked it. Haven’t had it in years though.

    @OzarkHillbilly: Braunschweiger on toasted rye is great.

    I grew up in the Midwest which may account for more unpopular tastes. Heck, used to have peanut butter and mayonnaise (actually Miracle Whip) sandwiches as a kid.

  26. Kathy says:

    On recent notable aviation news:

    The Israeli airline Israir conducted a flight to Bahrain from Tel Aviv, crossing Saudi airspace.

    Jet Blue has secured slots at Heathrow. They announced plans to fly from Boston and JFK to London in 2019, using the narrow body Airbus A321LR. Given the pandemic, flights are unlikely before the fourth quarter of next year.

    Airbus has finished assembling the last A380.

    About the first item, given clearance to transit over Saudi Arabia, I wonder if an Israeli company could copy the Emirates/Etihad/Qatar model of routes from the Americas/Europe to Asia with a stop at their hub.

    On the one hand, the Gulf Big three have a very early lead and established market. On the other hand, they’re luxury airlines offering outrageous premium classes and even among the nicest economy experience. No low cost airlines offer these types of routes.

  27. Jax says:

    I actually love liver, but I’m not sure I could stomach the thought of liver ice cream! I fry it in bacon fat with onions and MANY garlics. (Because Kathy is exactly right, one garlic clove is never enough, I want to scare all vampires in a 50 mile radius. 😉 )

    One caveat is that the liver I get from our home grown beef is not the same liver as that available from the store. Store-bought liver is entirely too mushy and exacerbates the already strange texture/taste.

  28. CSK says:

    An old friend of mine was raised in Nebraska. She always said she had to come east before she saw a piece of fruit that wasn’t suspended in Jell-o.

  29. inhumans99 says:


    I was coming here to bring that up, is there anyone in Trump’s orbit that is not on the verge of a nervous breakdown or has already cracked up? We had the DHS guy (or was it the top Health Department guy?) talk about shadows looming on the walls coming get him, Parscale has been hospitalized (even if it is only for a day…it is still startling to read this story about someone who directly spoke with President Trump), I think Ron Johnson is about to breakdown because no one took his Russia Report designed to help Trump and hurt Biden with any sort of gravitas (there is a Fox story where Johnson says he is angry the rest of the report may not be released until after the election and his feeling are hurt, but nothingburger stories do not command the front page for several days, and I know Johnson has already admitted that he feels that people are after him, so kinda already cracking up).

    All of these people who are clearly not mentally fit to run this country being in or having been in Trump’s orbit should start to rattle even the GOPs Base voters.

    Of course, there is now the Tax story which is not a nothingburger…see Ron Johnson, stories like the released Tax Returns are what get front page treatment for several days (possible weeks on end).

    The Trump admin is in such bad shape now even if Trump were re-elected I wonder if things would not fall apart well before Trump could complete the task of totally ruining everyone’s lives in America.

  30. Kathy says:

    About COVID-19, recent numbers are troubling. Many countries are trending upwards in new cases again, many after peaking once or even twice.

    This thing is insidious. If you relax a little, cases shoot up. That’s why I’m keeping my guard up at all times, no matter what other people say or think.

    I’ll relax when large numbers of people, including myself, are vaccinated.

    Also, mark my words: those countries where the uptake of COVID-19 vaccines is low will see longer epidemic than those where it’s high. I wouldn’t mind making the vaccine free and mandatory, with only medical exceptions.

  31. KM says:

    @inhumans99 :

    I was coming here to bring that up, is there anyone in Trump’s orbit that is not on the verge of a nervous breakdown or has already cracked up?

    Honestly? No.

    Dealing with someone like Trump constantly is extremely damaging to your mental health. A malignant narcissist cannot abide people who are more capable then them, even if it’s just someone who’s psyche is more intact. I’m also firmly of the belief Trump is BPD and they’ve been described by associates as dealing with emotional vampires and drama incarnate. Anyone’s who has had to spend significant amounts of time with someone like this daily will tell you the toll it takes on them, let alone having one as a boss with seemingly unlimited power and no restraint.

    His family has it slightly better in that they’ve been dealing with this their entire lives. They developed coping strategies (see the sons’ pathetic Daddy Love Me suckups) but there’s a basically zero chance their mental health has no been negatively impacted permanently by this. People who work for him, though? They never, never, NEVER think it’s as bad as it seems or that it will somehow be different for them. Humans have a remarkable ability for self-delusion and one that hangs around NPD and BPD is that “It can’t get any worse. There has to be a bottom and I can get them to see sense.”

    Selfish grifters and con artists alike look at Trump and think they see a fellow soul. He’s not – he’s damaged and they shatter on the rocks of his sheer horribleness. That’s the *point*, conscious or not – they ruin you so you’ll be like them. Nobody’s getting out of this Admin intact and America will be lucky to be only as wrecked as it is now. That’s what you get for electing crazy and letting crazy set the tone…..

  32. BugManDan says:

    @OzarkHillbilly: My wife’s very German family loves braunschweiger. I only like it better because there is less chewing, so it stays in my mouth a shorter amount of time.

    @Scott @Jax
    Also from the Midwest, but I still resisted liver even from the cows my family butchered. I did love a Miracle Whip sandwich, though.

  33. Monala says:

    @BugManDan: My mom would sauté onions and mushrooms. If you had enough onions and mushrooms topping the liver, it was edible.

  34. sam says:

    This might explain the goings-on in Fort Lauderdale: Non-Partisan Watchdog Accuses Trump Campaign Of ‘Laundering’ $170 Million:

    The complaint alleges that the Trump campaign paid millions of dollars to campaign-connected vendors without reporting those payments to the FEC, specifically honing in on American Made Media Consultants (AMMC), a firm created by Parscale, which has been paid over $106 million, making it the campaigns largest vendor.

  35. Sleeping Dog says:


    Hey, in the midwest, Jello is its own food group.

  36. Jen says:

    @sam: Such a dumb thing to do. FEC reports are required by law, on a very set schedule, and are easy to download and sift through. It’s probably one of the most efficiently designed government websites. Trying to hide anything in, or from, an FEC report is usually pretty simple to spot. These aren’t tax returns, for crying out loud. Amounts raised, cash on hand, and campaign expenditures–it’s simple accounting. Money in, money out. If you can balance a checkbook, you can read campaign finance reports.

  37. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    They must be thrilled by the renaissance of Wonder Bread.

  38. Sleeping Dog says:

    Wonder Bread goes great with extra mild salsa.

  39. CSK says:

    This, on top of being ignominiously canned by Trump, and the loss of his income, might have pushed him over the edge.

    According to the Miami Herald, Candice Parscale told police that her husband hits her, and showed them bruises on her arms, face, and neck. This assault apparently took place 2 days before his suicide attempt.

  40. CSK says:

    @Sleeping Dog:
    And nothing, absolutely nothing, beats a Wonder Bread ‘n’ Miracle Whip sandwich.

    Would you believe I’ve never tasted Wonder Bread/ My mother wouldn’t allow it in the house, and I had no desire to purchase it as an adult.

  41. Sleeping Dog says:


    Wonder bread and miracle whip, sounds tasteless.

  42. BugManDan says:

    @Sleeping Dog: “Tasteless” as a food or as a joke?

  43. Michael Reynolds says:

    If your day is gone, and you want to ride on, cocaine
    Don’t forget this fact, you can’t get it back, cocaine
    She don’t lie, she don’t lie,
    she don’t lie, cocaine

    Pure speculation that will turn out to be true: Brad Parscale has been stealing from Trump’s campaign donors, almost certainly in league with Trump himself, and quite a bit of white powder went up Brad’s nose after he was dumped. A week or so of coke binging will get a man upset. Times like that a man needs barricades and guns.

    Did I ever tell the story of the coke-fueled three-way with two of my alleged girl gang in a the Mark Hopkins, where we actually frolicked* on stolen money? No? Maybe another time.

    *Ah, I remember the frolicking days.

  44. CSK says:

    @Michael Reynolds:
    I think you owe it to the reading public to write your memoirs one of these days.

  45. Teve says:

    @CSK: have you also read Columbia’s Last Flight? That’s the only place I’ve seen that phrase. Miracle Whip on Wonder Bread.

    Wrote three science communication papers on that piece in college. Masterful nonfiction writing. A writer I read, and say ‘Fuck, I could never be this good.’

  46. CSK says:

    Never read it, but thanks so much for the link. I’ll read it tonight with my pre-dinner drink.

    There are lots of mayo/white bread jokes (around these parts) about typical WASP food. I may have made up the sandwich part.

  47. Teve says:

    I repost Columbia’s Last Flight on Facebook every few years. I wrote three papers in a science communication class in college on this article. It’s just masterful science writing. The kind I read, and think, ‘fuck, I could never be as good as this guy.’ I told Dr. Katz “I don’t know how I could ever write such a piece”, and she said “Don’t feel bad. It probably took him 6 months and 50,000 dollars to write that.”

  48. sam says:

    Old Jay Leno joke: “Have you ever read the expiration date on a loaf of Wonder Bread? You should live so long!”

  49. Jen says:

    So, on the Parscale thing again…Channel 4 News (UK) is carrying a story saying they have access to Cambridge Analytica data that shows Black voters in the US were targeted with the objective of deterring them to vote (LINK). If true, this appears to be evidence that Parscale lied to Congress (not that that matters anymore, but whatever, I guess).

  50. Teve says:

    I can’t resist quoting it:

    Moreover, this mission was a yawn—a low-priority “science” flight forced onto NASA by Congress and postponed for two years because of a more pressing schedule of construction deliveries to the International Space Station. The truth is, it had finally been launched as much to clear the books as to add to human knowledge, and it had gone nowhere except into low Earth orbit, around the globe every ninety minutes for sixteen days, carrying the first Israeli astronaut, and performing a string of experiments, many of which, like the shuttle program itself, seemed to suffer from something of a make-work character—the examination of dust in the Middle East (by the Israeli, of course); the ever popular ozone study; experiments designed by schoolchildren in six countries to observe the effect of weightlessness on spiders, silkworms, and other creatures; an exercise in “astroculture” involving the extraction of essential oils from rose and rice flowers, which was said to hold promise for new perfumes; and so forth. No doubt some good science was done too—particularly pertaining to space flight itself—though none of it was so urgent that it could not have been performed later, under better circumstances, in the under-booked International Space Station. The astronauts aboard the shuttle were smart and accomplished people, and they were deeply committed to human space flight and exploration. They were also team players, by intense selection, and nothing if not wise to the game. From orbit one of them had radioed, “The science we’re doing here is great, and it’s fantastic. It’s leading-edge.” Others had dutifully reported that the planet seems beautiful, fragile, and borderless when seen from such altitudes, and they had expressed their hopes in English and Hebrew for world peace. It was Miracle Whip on Wonder Bread, standard NASA fare. On the ground so little attention was being paid that even the radars that could have been directed upward to track the Columbia’s re-entry into the atmosphere—from Vandenberg Air Force Base, or White Sands Missile Range—were sleeping. As a result, no radar record of the breakup exists—only of the metal rain that drifted down over East Texas, and eventually came into the view of air-traffic control.

  51. sam says:
  52. Just nutha ignint cracker says:


    One head of garlic per bite of liver.

    In fairness, that is about the approach for the various liver sausage/pate/liverwurst/Braunschwiger recipes that are out there.

  53. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @KM: Not a lawyer, but I believe that the penalty is removal from office–contingent on the voters electing someone else at the next scheduled election, of course.

  54. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @CSK: Wonder Bread doesn’t taste any different from any other standard white enriched bread, it was just the first commercially mass marketed bread.

  55. KM says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:
    I actually meant for the officers in question. Can new criminal charges be brought if it’s come out that they perjured themselves to the grand jury or other fraudulently presented evidence? I’m pretty sure anything homicide-related’s already off the table but something else might still be viable to hold them accountable for actions other then damaging a wall….

  56. BugManDan says:

    @Michael Reynolds:
    Meant to comment a couple of days ago about protest songs and the got busy. Here is a list.

    Some directly about Trump:

    Maybe We’ll All Get Along Someday – Joe Purdy
    I Give You Power – Arcade Fire & Mavis Staples
    Tiny Hands – Fiona Apple
    Too Dumb for Suicide: Tim Heidecker’s Trump Songs
    Demagogue – Franz Ferdinand
    Hallelujah Money – Gorillaz
    Happy New Year (Prince Can’t Die Again)
    This is America – Childish Gambino
    Thoughts and Prayers – Drive-By Truckers
    I had a Dream – Loudon Wainwright III

    A couple more general and mostly a bit older:

    Holiday/Blvd of Broken Dreams – Green Day
    Take Back the Power – The Interupters
    Children’s Bread – Jimmy Cliff and Tim Timebomb
    Wasteland of the Free – Iris Dement
    All YOu Fascists – Billy Bragg

  57. Sleeping Dog says:


    Definitely as a food and for yucks if I invited you for lunch and served miracle whip on wonder bread, you’d consider it a tasteless joke.

  58. CSK says:

    The family being overrun seems remarkably unfazed by their attackers.

  59. Michael Reynolds says:


  60. Michael Reynolds says:

    The Parscale thing looks a lot like an abortive suicide by cop attempt. Barricading, threatening suicide, not going through with it, cops showing up. I don’t think lying to Congress gets you to suicide. I suspect it’ll be something bigger, something with prison time involved. Prison and poverty?

  61. Teve says:

    Newsweek says at this time 4 years ago, fewer than 10,000 people had voted, and at the moment the number is over 860,000.

  62. Kathy says:

    About liver, I don’t mind people who like it, I do mind people who think I should like it (which I can be accused of in regards to garlic).

    On other things, I’m reading Jill Lepore’s latest tome “If Then: How the Simulmatics Corporation Invented the Future.”

    It’s about a company, the Simulmatics Corporation, which was an early pioneer in compiling, processing, and commercializing data (she mentioned them in season one of her podcast “The Last Archive”).

  63. Jen says:

    @Michael Reynolds: Agreed, but of course we have no idea what else is under the Cambridge Analytica rock. I don’t think that he was pushed to the edge by a lying to Congress possible charge, no. But there seems to be suddenly a lot of stuff out there that it could be (something in the Trump taxes story–possible, but unlikely; something in the FEC disclosure–this is most likely as there are clear laws there; or the Cambridge Analytica/lying to Congress story–this is unlikely, but it could have led to a feeling that the walls are suddenly closing in).

    Because dang, that IS a lot of bad news in a short time frame, if you’re already in it up to your bearded-Viking neck.

  64. Mister Bluster says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:..Wonder Bread doesn’t taste any different from any other standard white enriched bread, it was just the first commercially mass marketed bread.

    …early Tibet…

  65. JohnSF says:

    Along similar lines, an interesting article by Anne Applebaum in the Atlantic on the topic of the damaging mental effects of being a Trump partisan and having to deny objective reality; and that for some plunging into QAnon style conspiracism can be a coping strategy.

  66. JohnSF says:

    Liver: I’m very partial to it fried.
    Must be in a v.hot pan, and quickly done to get the outside nicely browned but the inside still rare-ish.
    Served with fire onions and bacon, and broad beans.

    But: it depends crucially deal on what sort of liver.
    Calves or lambs liver is nice; ox-liver is not suited to quick frying; and pigs liver is really only usable for pate.
    Use pigs liver for the quick fried method and you’ll regret it.

  67. JohnSF says:

    Fire onions = fried onions.
    What has happened to edit function?
    Seems to be here one minute, gone the next.

  68. Kathy says:

    The bad news, if we needed any, about COVID-19 is that the coronavirus family seems particularly adept at infecting people multiple times.

    But it’s not that clear this applies to SARS-CoV-2.

    There have been documented cases of re-infection. One involves a Hong Kong resident who had a mild case early in the pandemic, then got reinfected recently on a trip to Spain, resulting in another mild or asymptomatic case.

    It seems reasonable to suppose if reinfection were common, then given the high number of cases, one would expect more reinfections to have taken place. But there are many confounding variables. Perhaps people who’ve been infected, and developed COVID-19, are far more careful about not catching it a second time. But then perhaps they believe themselves immune and no longer take precautions seriously.

    It’s hard to extrapolate much from little data, but thus far this makes the notion of herd immunity look less desirable. It may be SARS-CoV-2 will become endemic in human populations, like the various strains of influenza. perhaps we can keep it under control with updated annual shots, or perhaps semi-annual ones. perhaps it will become less deadly, too. it’s been known to happen (namely by killing off the more susceptible individuals).

    But, then, it may become as bad as the bubonic plague.

    That pernicious disease recurred in Europe and Asia multiple times, from the reign of Justinian I to the present day (yes, it’s still around). Smallpox was a recurring nightmare as well, as were other diseases now kept under control with vaccines, like polio, measles, whooping cough, etc., or diseases averted by better hygiene and nutrition, like rickets, scurvy, or ringworm.

    We may be condemned to repeated waves of COVID-19, with outbreaks taking place here and there the world over for decades, or much longer.

    It’s not hopeless. Bubonic plague is still around, yes, but no major outbreaks have taken place in a very long time. We can control it with sanitation measures that keep rats, with their bacteria-laden fleas, away from human habitation. It can also be treated with antibiotics, albeit with a still high mortality rate.

    If vaccines keep it under control, that’s well and good. if not, then perhaps we will develop better antiviral treatments, maybe eventually the first antiviral cure.

    We need to leave the wilderness alone as much as possible, though, which is where many of these new diseases come from. To stop developing it, invading it, deforesting it, etc. COVID-19 is patently not the worst thing that can happen, there have been worse contagious diseases within the last 150 years. Imagine an easily transmissible disease that attacks the heart and lungs, but has a 50% untreated mortality rate.

    We also do know the really bad pandemics are spread by casual contact. This si true of smallpox, plague (it develops a respiratory version, and people spread the Y. pestis pathogen, polio, and both Influenza and COVID-19. That’s why at the first sign of a new dangerous and contagious disease, we should adopt preventive measures like masks, distancing, etc., even before any official announcements. Not panic, as panic only gets in the way, but reasonable caution.

  69. Kathy says:


    Fire onions = fried onions.

    Aw, and here I thought you’d spliced ghost pepper genes into red onions. 🙂

    Reload/refresh for edit. Works for me every time.

  70. Teve says:


    NEW: The Fort Lauderdale PD has released body worn camera video of Trump campaign advisor Brad Parscale walking out of his house with a beer and being tackled by police after police noticed bruises on his wife:


  71. CSK says:

    She told the cops he’d hit her two days before and showed them the bruises on her neck, face, and arms.

  72. JohnSF says:

    For me reload works sometimes, and sometimes not.
    * shrugs grumpily*

  73. CSK says:

    Same here. You’re not alone.
    The bold, italic, and link buttons also vanish occasionally.

  74. MarkedMan says:


    What has happened to edit function?
    Seems to be here one minute, gone the next.

    If I were to guess as to what’s going on, I would guess that the page is getting redrawn before all the calls have been completed. But given that I know almost nothing about modern web pages you shouldn’t bet any money on it.

  75. MarkedMan says:

    @Kathy: Speaking of red onions, what is the commentariat’s collective opinion on cooking red onions? My wife and I have a disagreement on this…

  76. CSK says:

    They’re best raw in salads and such, because the flavor diminishes sharply when they’re cooked. Just my take.

  77. Kathy says:


    I cook them or eat them raw as I would regular onions, depending on what I’m making.

  78. sam says:

    Speaking of liver. Recall the worst thing that Alexander Portnoy ever did.

  79. CSK says:

    Even people who never read the book remember that part.

  80. Kathy says:

    I’m guessing Potemkin Don is so upset over the NYT disclosures, he’s not even wished his con in law a happy Yom Kippur.

  81. CSK says:

    Has he expressed any concern about Brad Parscale?
    On a lighter note, Rick Gates claims that Trump wanted Ivanka to be his VP, because she’s “smart and and beautiful” and “people would love her.” Apparently Ivanka managed to dissuade her father from carrying out this ambition.

  82. Just Another Ex-Republican says:

    Not that I have much use for Brad Parscale, but having watched that video it feels like we should note that once again police escalated to force absurdly quickly, even on the white guy this time.

  83. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @KM: I gravitate more toward if society/the justice system had wanted to hold the officers accountable, they wouldn’t have erected the big blue wall for this case in the first place. But some people say I’m too cynical.

  84. Kathy says:


    Does he know what concern means?

    @Just Another Ex-Republican:

    You know, was going to go full snark and say he wasn’t shot and no one stepped on his neck. But you’re right. He was unarmed, he was not violent. The cops could have waited him out.

  85. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @MarkedMan: I’m with CSK. I don’t care for sauteed red onions, but I have seen a recipe for braising them quickly in Balsamic vinegar that some people swear by. My take is that they end up tasting like warm Balsamic vinegar.

  86. Kathy says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    Oh, I didn’t think of that one. I’ve made red onion as a side dish. I sauté them a looooong time, mostly covered in low heat, then add balsamic vinegar and stir until it’s almost all gone. Then I add ketchup (the no sugar added kind; regular ketchup is red icing).

  87. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Kathy: When you saute the red onions a long time, don’t they break down, or is that the point? The red onions I get up where I live seem to have a high moisture content and are just like the sweet onions that grow in Walla Walla in that when you cook them for any length of time they cook down into a sort of paste. 🙁 It’s not the effect I’m looking for in onions at all. (And the Walla Walla sweets don’t taste like anything either. They turn into a kind of gruel or pulse. Very unappetizing.)

  88. Kathy says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    When you saute the red onions a long time, don’t they break down, or is that the point?

    No, they kind of begin to brown, and that’s when I add the balsamic and ketchup.

    There’s a recipe for making onion sauce, which does require the onions to break down. But that one uses white onions.