Trump’s Outrageous Statements Helpful With Republican Base
Shocking if unsurprising poll results.
Empower Project research director Neil Stenhouse points me to a recent Des Moines Register/NBC News poll of “likely Republican caucusgoers” and highlights this disturbing finding:
While I shouldn’t be surprised by these results at this point—Iowa Caucus participants represent the extreme wing of their party and those who are still Trump supporters at this point were never moderates to begin with—it’s nonetheless disturbing.
Mass deportations of immigrants is wildly popular, of course. But barely more so than rooting out “radical left thugs.”
Indeed, the only outrageous comments of Trump that seem to give any pause are “terminating parts of the Constitution”—which is still a 50-50 proposition—and “lock[ing] up his political opponents”—which still enjoys nearly two-thirds support.
Most interesting to me is the overall high “does not matter” rate.
Those who counsel that Dems should try and understand where MAGAts are coming from and try to convert their worldview, do have a point, if you are dealing with rational people. But there comes a point, that we are well past, that all need to accept, that Hillary was right, they are deplorable.
Whataboutism.
Biden Outrageous False Statement on the Hunter’s Laptop.
“There are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plant,” said the future president in 2020. Biden went on to observe that “five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he’s saying is a bunch of garbage.”
@Paul L.: yes, you have definitely provided an example of such. Good boy! You get a gold star!
I’m gonna reconsider my decision to ignore Paul L’s posts. This is the second time in as many days where he has made me laugh. A post about Trump’s follows exhibiting unreasoning and sycophantic acceptance of everything he says is responded to by a demonstration of the what a Trump supporter’s mind looks like, to the point where it makes me wonder if ol’ Paul is just a troll pulling our chain. I know he’s not, but I can’t imagine how an actual troll could create a better parody
@Paul L.:
Given the way that Trump slobbers over Putin, it’s hilariously ironic that he would accuse Biden of being a Russian plant.
@MarkedMan:
Ignore the trolls is code for I can’t refute or debunk them.
It is hilarious how one of 50 former national intelligence wouldn’t defend Biden statement.
@Paul L.: You clearly do not understand what the intel community was saying, which I guess is to be expected.
The laptop and contents could well be genuine. However, as Priess states: “the way it was disseminated and propagated through media. Those words are still true. It has all the classic earmarks,” he said.
It’s not at all surprising that you don’t understand the nuance here.
@Paul L.:
LOL, certainly more so than Trump, who is making less and less sense when he speaks every dang day.
@Jen:
Biden
Biden said the laptop and contents were Russian Disinformation.
The intel community says they don’t spy on US citizens and there is no FISA abuse.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… At least now you’ve given me a good laugh.
People like you always put me in mind of the old saying, “Better to keep one’s mouth shut and thought stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.”
People used to suggest I was exaggerating or engaging in inflammatory rhetoric when I said MAGAts would line up to take jobs at a concentration camp. They don’t stockpile guns in preparation for a zombie apocalypse, the bullets they buy are for you and me. I guarantee you that @Paul L fantasizes about killing liberals.
Paul @Paul L.:
A lot of the wretched laptop saga is a joke.
I spent time I’ll never get get back following some of the rabbit trails.
Ask me some time about computer repair offices co-located with supermarkets in Lugano, the mysteriously untraceable Mr Michael Aspen, and the Falun Gong, fthlog.
As a friend I should have asked earlier said: “It’s an op. And a bloody sloppy one at that.”
Typhoon, indeed.
@Paul L:
Have you noticed that Democrats DGAF about your Hunter Biden obsessions? If you were a clever boy rather than a brain-dead MAGA cultist who worships Fat Orange Jesus, you might ask yourself why we DGAF. Ponder. See if you can figure it out.
@Paul L.:
Come at me, bro.
I’m your huckleberry, as Doc says.
@Paul L.: How do those Trump statements affect your willingness to vote for him?
Are you in favor of the federal government rooting out radical left thugs? Are illegal immigrants poisoning the lifeblood of our country?
@Paul L.: Trump and his minions said Russian meddling in the 2016 election to help him was a hoax.
By contrast, the intel community you agree with said Russia interfered in the 2016 election to assist Trump — with Trump welcoming such traitorous assistance by publicly calling for Russia to interfere, by his campaign meeting with Russian operatives in Trump Tower, and by his campaign chair Paul Manafort publicly admitting giving data to the Russians.
Glad to know you agree with the deep state that Traitor Trump is a Russian asset and thus a national security threat. Progress.
For no reason at all, I’m reminded of a bit of conventional wisdom:
When you wrestle a pig, you might win or lose, but either way you’ll wind up covered in mud and pig sh*t.
Carry on.
@Kathy:
But the thing is, I like crackling.
With apple sauce, and mustard.
Yum.
(OK, don’t wrestle. Just use the humane killer.)
@Kathy:
And ultimately, only the pig enjoys it… unless, of course, you’re into getting covered in mud and pig sh*t… I’m not going to yunk anyone’s yums.
@DK:
I heard Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell, both D-Calif. repeating that talking point as it proves Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election.
What law makes sharing private campaign polling data illegal to share with a foreign Government?
@Matt Bernius:
Sometimes, typos improve a saying. I don’t know what yunking is. As far as I know, I have never yunked, nor have I seen anyone else yunking by the side of the road. But I’ll be damned if I don’t want to yunk…something or someone or myself.
@Paul L.:
Don’t be a damn fool.
If no laws had been in place to prevent political collaboration with Nazi Germany, or Imperial Japan, or the Soviet Union, or PR China, or, for that matter, the British Empire, would such co-ordination and collaboration have been regarded as within the limits of acceptable political activity?
One basic of political philosophy: if you are trying by sophistry to argue that “it was not outside the letter of the law”, you are being foolish.
Jesus, this is depressing, but it reiterates a lot of what we know:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/12/22/nation/trump-supporters/
If you can’t access it, the gist is here:
http://www.rawstory.com/trump-supporters-2666789329/
Trump was appointed by God, you know.
@CSK: I wish that people would stop using “chosen by God” as some kind of terminal point in the debate. Using the same Bible passages establishes that Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Biden were all “chosen by God.”
Paging Inigo Montoya, paging Inigo Montoya, please come to the white courtesy phone in the main concourse.
@Just nutha ignint cracker:
My question is: If Trump was chosen by God, why did Biden win?
For those interested, the issue around the legally of sharing polling data with foreign governments is a complex one (and contingent on other issues in most cases). This is a pretty good rundown:
https://www.justsecurity.org/62201/trump-campaign-legal-jeopardy-manaforts-sharing-data-russian-agent/
@Paul L.: Are you an idiot? Never mind, the question has been answered.
@JohnSF: “Collusion” is a convenient word. It’s not a legal term, so it’s a very easily moved goalpost. Whatever Trump and his minions are known to have done, it can be claimed to be short of collusion.
@CSK:
Which god?
Maybe Biden’s god, or such gods as show him favor, are stronger than Adolph’s Orange god.
@mattbernius:
Complex means you got nothing.
Spending Limits make it illegal?
This line is all the argument you got.