A Study in Being “Presidential”

Via TPM Livewire:  WATCH: CNN Grills Carson On Muslim Comments Until Manager Ends Interview:

Tapper and Carson spent several minutes of back and forth.

“You’re assuming that Muslim Americans put their religion ahead of the country,” Tapper said to Carson.

“I’m assuming that if you accept all the tenets of Islam that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States,” Carson replied.

The conversation ended when a voice off-camera, which CNN identified as Carson’s campaign manager, Armstrong Williams said, “This interview is over.”

You know you are ready to be POTUS when Jake Tapper is too hot to handle…


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  1. M. Bouffant says:

    Also ready for the gig when your “business manager” is running things for you off-camera, & he’s known grifter Armstrong Williams. Who do these people think they’re fooling other than themselves?

  2. al-Ameda says:

    I hope Dr. Carson continues to poll well, Democrats need him to be around for the next 8-9 months.

  3. ernieyeball says:

    “We are not issuing marriage licenses today,” Davis says in the video.
    “Under whose authority are you not issuing licenses?” asks one of the men.
    “Under God’s authority,” Davis responds.

    I’m assuming that if you accept all the tenets of The Holy Roller Church that you would have a very difficult time abiding under the Constitution of the United States.

  4. Gustopher says:

    @ernieyeball: If your religion requires you to impose your views on others, you’re going to have a hard time abiding by the constitution of the United States.

    Freedom Of Religion is also Freedom From Other People’s Religion.

  5. ernieyeball says:

    @Gustopher:..Freedom Of Religion is also Freedom From Other People’s Religion.

    You don’t have to tell me.
    I’m a Sun Worshiper and we are NOT looking for converts!

  6. michael reynolds says:

    You know, it’s possible this guy is mentally unbalanced. I mean, really. Like Bobby Fischer syndrome, smart guys who are nevertheless nuts. He reads to me as crazy, if I may use a clinical term.

  7. DrDaveT says:


    I’m a Sun Worshiper and we are NOT looking for converts!

    There is only one god
    He is the sun god
    Ra! Ra! Ra!

  8. Andre Kenji says:

    Armstrong Williams, the guy that was paid to promote No Child Left Behind in his syndicated columns by the Bush Administration?

  9. ernieyeball says:

    @DrDaveT:..Ra! Ra! Ra!

    Yes. There is that.
    I adhere to a more recent interpretation of cosmology.
    See The Demon Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark Carl Sagan (1996)
    footnote pg. 18

    Although it’s hard for me to see a more profound cosmic connection than the astonishing findings of modern nuclear astrophysics: except for hydrogen, all the atoms that make each of us up – the iron in our blood, the calcium in our bones, the carbon in our brains – were manufactured in red giant stars thousands of light years away in space and billions of years ago in time. We are, as I like to say, starstuff.

  10. ernieyeball says:

    There is also Sun Ra: Tapestry From An Asteroid


  11. Franklin says:

    @ernieyeball: 3rd post: Thread over.

  12. ernieyeball says:

    @Franklin:..3rd post: Thread over.

    At least it’s not 11 endless Pinky Knows posts.
    See: https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wapo-fact-checker-gets-three-pinocchios/

  13. ernieyeball says:

    A Study in Being “Presidential” Part II

    Typhoid Trump Saves Christmas!

    Feliz Navidad Don John Boy!

  14. Matt says:

    @ernieyeball: The only answers I’ve gotten when bringing that up is basically “well that’s different!!!”. The right wing Christians refuse to see any similarity between them and Muslims. I’ve gotten into so many debates where it ends when the right wing Christian says something to the effect of “because I said so”. The educated ones just have more excuses before hitting that point.

    Another problem is that calling someone a Muslim in some areas is on par with using the word n*$$3r these days. Hence people insisting on calling the president a Muslim because they would get in trouble if they used the word they really want to use.

  15. ernieyeball says:

    @Matt:..The right wing Christians refuse to see any similarity between them and Muslims.

    I gotta ask why do you bother to engage these citizens?
    Do you really think you are going to change their minds?

  16. Matt says:

    @ernieyeball: Because they are my family? Because I interact with right wing Christians almost daily?

    For whatever reason in the last few years they (right wingers) have been a lot more vocal about their religion and beliefs. Since I’m white and I look like a Christians I get to hear crap they probably don’t speak of normally. Kind of like when I went to the tea party rally to see what those people were really like. Well around me they felt really secure in being outright racist..

    Generally though it starts with someone making an outright stupid comment about Islam or something in class and then it snowballs from there. One discussion occurred on teamspeak when one of the people in my alliance made a bigoted remark about Muslims. Basically It occurs because I refuse to let stupid slide anymore. Combine that with people feeling really secure about saying absolutely stupid shit about Islam these days..

  17. ernieyeball says:

    @Matt:..Because they are my family?

    You could have stopped there. I can grok that.
    The “truthers” in my clan constantly try to engage me on FaceBook with their nonsense. I have told them more than once they need to get their heads out of their asses and promply delete their posts. They are far enough away that I have not seen them in years.
    More than once bigots have confused me for another honkie who wants to hear their racist crap talk. I make it a point to let them know they are mistaken.
    Not familiar with teamspeak alliance as it has been many years since I have been in a formal classroom setting.
    I sometimes forget how fortunate I was to be able to work outside, alone during most of my 35 year career in the landline telephone industry.
    Didn’t have to deal with anyone as long as the job got done.

  18. Matt says:

    Teamspeak is a program for voice communication and I am in an alliance in one of the games I play that has a teamspeak server. So even in games I play for fun I run into this crap.

  19. gVOR08 says:


    The right wing Christians refuse to see any similarity between them and Muslims.

    For you it’s a question of extremism versus reason. For them it’s my tribe versus their tribe.

  20. Matt says:

    @gVOR08: Yup. In the teamspeak conversation when I pointed out that Islam and Christianity have essentially the same origin (being Abrahamic religions) I was called an atheist communist. I wish I was kidding but that is what they called me just because I pointed out that Islam and Christianity share many things.

    In hindsight I can clearly see the tribalism at work in that conversation. If you’re not part of the tribe then you’re against the tribe and thus an enemy. It’s basically the same as Bush’s either you’re with us or against us stupidity.

    For the record I’m agnostic as I believe it’d be arrogant of us to believe that we know what god wants or thinks. So to me all the abrahamic religions look the same.