Aaron Haspel responds to a challenge as to whether it is possible to say that either Chopin or Black Sabbath are “greater” than the other. I essentially agree with his answer; go read it if you’re interested in such things.

Any mention of Chopin, however, inevitably brings to mind this classic sequence from Tombstone:

Billy: Hey, is that Old Dog Trey? That sounds like Old Dog Trey to me.

Doc: Pardon?

Billy: You know, Stephen Foster, Oh Susanna, Camptown Races. Stephen stinkin’ Foster.

Doc: Uh, yes, well this happens to be a nocturne.

Billy: A which?

Doc: You know, Frederick f***ing Chopin.

Heh. That movie is full of great repartee like that.

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  1. Lana says:

    They might as well have just gotten it over with and called it “Doc Holliday” because Kilmer stole the movie with lines like these.

  2. JW says:

    An even better line only a few scenes later:
    Billy: “You’re so drunk, I’ll bet you’re seeing two of me right now” (draws knife)

    Doc: (draws guns) “I have two guns–one for each of you.”

  3. steve says:

    You’re no Daisy. You’re no Daisy at all.

    Once in a lucky while, a thing will come around that ruins the rule of individual preference. I would have no interest at all in having coffee with a person who didn’t get a big kick out of Doc in ‘Toombstone’

  4. Timmer says:

    It’s one of the most blatant injustices of our time. Val Kilmer didn’t even get a nod for “best supporting actor” that year from any of the awards commitees. Granted, he had great writing to back him, but can you see anyone else at all playing that part?

  5. SwampWoman says:

    “You’re not wearing a bustle. How lewd.”

    From now on, whenever I hear “Doc Holiday” I will picture Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer made the movie.

  6. SwampWoman says:

    “You’re not wearing a bustle. How lewd.”

    From now on, whenever I hear “Doc Holiday” I will picture Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer made the movie.

  7. SwampWoman says:

    Or was it corset? Now I’m going to have to watch the movie again.

    I dunno why I’m getting double postings today. I only hit the send button once. Really.

  8. steve says:

    You got it, it was bustle.
    Not only should Val have won the best supporting actor award, but they should have shut the sucker down for three years in honor of this performance. I got the same feeling when Robert Duvall didn’t win for his performance in ‘The Apostle’.
    Remember this at the card game with Johny Ringo?

    Doc:  In vino veritas.
    Ringo:  Age quod agis.
    Doc:  Credat judaios Atella, non ego.
    Ringo:  Iuventus stultorum magister.
    Doc:  In pace requiescat.
    Marshal:  Come on boys, we don’t want any trouble in here. Not in any language.
    Doc:  That’s Latin, darlin’. Evidently Mr. Ringo is an educated man. Now I really hate him.