In Case Anyone Asks…
…via Quartz: Muslims around the world condemn terrorism after the Paris attacks and USAT: Muslims strongly condemn Paris terror attacks.
…via Quartz: Muslims around the world condemn terrorism after the Paris attacks and USAT: Muslims strongly condemn Paris terror attacks.
Exactly right…the idea that we are at war with an entire religion is stupid and unproductive…we should look at people as individuals and not at all Muslims as terrorists…
I’m listening to NPR right now, and the main focus so far is how awful it would be if there was a backlash against Muslims over the Paris attacks. The fear of this backlash, it seems, is far worse than talking about the actual atrocity.
It’s almost like there’s some kind of script going around. A group of Muslims do something horrific, a bunch of Muslims immediately say it’s bad and don’t blame us, and whole bunch of people denounce this horrible backlash that never seems to materialize. And the actual atrocity just fades away.
Until the next time a group of Muslims do something horrific, and it starts all over again…
BTW, at least one and possibly two of the attackers passed themselves off as Syrian refugees and passed through several countries on their way to France. Yay, open borders!
@Jenos Idanian:
That is some serious selective listening you’ve got going on there.
This is radically simplistic, but so what else is new.
The 9/11 hijackers got to the US through wholly legal means. Was the lesson there to never, ever allow another person into the US every again?
Eric Rudolph and Timothy McVeigh were a couple of white guys. Was the lesson there to expel all white guys from the US?
The sun still rises in the east and sets in the west. Another horrible attack by Muslim extremists, killing scores and wounding many many more. The vast majority of Muslims condemn these kinds of attacks. People who are responsible for the safety of ALL of their citizens say do not blame the many for the acts of a few. And Jenos, while ignoring the very real backlash that Muslims face, complains about the “political correctness” of the discussion because somehow or other saying “Don’t blame the many for the acts of a few.” in his mind means he can’t talk about the atrocity.
What it really means is “Talk about it intelligently.” Which I suppose is not that far from saying, “Shut up, Jenos.”
@Jenos Idanian: Booman has a particularly good take on this.
@gVOR08: Apparently, that is only true outside the borders of Jenosia.
At least Eric Rudolph stopped some babykilling abortionists from murdering innocent children. Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation. He is the one that died for you on the cross so your sins can be taken away if you repent. I know Eric Rudolph and bombing a babykilling abortion mill is not the wrong thing, murdering the babies inside the abortion mill is the wrong thing.
The above is a prime example of why religious figures should never, ever be in charge of any nation, much less direct any country’s foreign policy…
@Steven L. Taylor: A few thoughts came to me about your go-to counter-examples.
1) Your first thoughts go back 20 years (well, 19 and 22, technically, but let’s say 20).
2) The bombings are such oddities that you refer to them by the bombers’ names, not the locales or dates.
3) I immediately understood which bombings you referred to, even though you only gave the bombers’ names. Because they were such outliers.
And yes, the number of radical Muslims is dwarfed by the non-radical Muslims. But the radicals kill a hell of a lot more Muslims than non-Muslims. I find myself wondering why the non-radical Muslims don’t take out their own trash.
@An Interested Party: michael reynolds has admitted to occasionally trolling here under a fake name, lampooning what he considers far-right stereotypes. And the site authors have confirmed that and that they find it amusing. So I’m thinking that “Rev Donald Spitz” is mr. reynolds.
@Jenos Idanian:
Odd, that I would try to use immediately recognizable and well known examples. It is if I wanted to be understood by citing widely held knowledge.
@Jenos Idanian: If you prefer a more contemporary example: your logic is the same as stating that all white males should be banned from owning guns because of Adam Lanza (or James Holmes, or name your example).
The basic point should not be that difficult to grasp.
@Steven L. Taylor: I’ll decline the condescending tone, but I will respond with a simple phrase that sums up my response to the words of condemnation from so many Muslims: “Talk is cheap.”
There is one group of Muslims that is actually expressing their disapproval of radical Islam in a tangible fashion, and they are the Kurds. They’re the ones who we should be supporting.
To those who offer their words of condemnation and nothing else, I believe our policy should be “put up or shut up.”
Following your own advice, do tell us how you plan on personally doing something about the Lord’s Resistance Army…
@An Interested Party: After careful consideration, I reject your parallel. I see no way in which the LRA either 1) claims to represent me and my beliefs, or 2) they directly threaten me or people with whom I share some aspect of identity.
Nice try, though. Do you have any other examples of self-proclaimed Christian terrorists, or are they your go-to group, like Dr. Joyner’s non-Islam-inspired bombings? ‘Cuz I can come up with a whole bunch of other examples besides ISIS.
Sure…if we are going to tar an entire group based on the actions of a few, we can say that you should put up or shut up based on the bigoted actions/words of your straight white brethren in this country…
@Jenos Idanian:
If we accept the definitions you must be using for that statement to be true, then the vast majority of Muslims in the world can say the same. Why do you hold them to a higher standard than you are willing to hold yourself?
Didn’t conservatives complain in the past “where are the condemnations from other Muslims?” Now that they’re shown the condemnations, the response is, “talk is cheap.”
@Grewgills: Exactly.
@Steve V: Indeed.
@An Interested Party: of your straight white brethren in this country… </i?
Now you're judging me on factors over which I have no control. I'm being judged by my biology. Since when is it OK to stereotype someone over their race and sexual orientation?
Shorter Jenos: The best course of action is to play directly into ISIS’s hands.