Thursday Afternoon Tabs

The Everytown researchers found that a decade ago, less than a quarter of all gun thefts were from cars; in 2020, over half of them were. The researchers say more study is needed to understand the shift, which has occurred as more states have adopted permitless carry laws and messages in gun-industry marketing have encouraged Americans to take their weapons with them for personal protection.

And this is just a chef’s kiss of irony:

In some cities, organized groups of young people have swept through neighborhoods and areas around sports arenas, looking for weapons left under car seats or in unlocked center consoles or glove compartments. Their work is occasionally made easier by motorists who advertise their right to bear arms with car window stickers promoting favored gun brands, or that declare “molon labe” — a defiant message from ancient Sparta, which roughly translates as “come and take them.”

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Steven L. Taylor is a Professor of Political Science and a College of Arts and Sciences Dean. His main areas of expertise include parties, elections, and the institutional design of democracies. His most recent book is the co-authored A Different Democracy: American Government in a 31-Country Perspective. He earned his Ph.D. from the University of Texas and his BA from the University of California, Irvine. He has been blogging since 2003 (originally at the now defunct Poliblog). Follow Steven on Twitter

Comments

  1. gVOR10 says:

    molon labe

    Perfect.

    As I asked yesterday about the Florida Man who emptied his magazine at the pool guy,

    What the hell is wrong with these people?

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  2. Mr. Prosser says:

    Leaving firearms in vehicles is a monumentally stupid act. I know three neighbors who had pistols stolen from their trucks at night while the trucks were parked in their driveways. One person is a retired deputy sheriff. They all told me they forgot about them which is as dumb as the idiots who get caught with weapons in their carry-on luggage.

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  3. Mu Yixiao says:

    Their work is occasionally made easier by motorists who advertise their right to bear arms with car window stickers promoting favored gun brands, or that declare “molon labe” — a defiant message from ancient Sparta, which roughly translates as “come and take them.”

    But, your honor… He told me to!

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  4. Mr. Prosser says:

    @gVOR10: I wonder how many mojitos the Florida shooter had before he cut loose on the pool guy

  5. grumpy realist says:

    DeSantis, in an attempt to gather applause, is now proposing to get rid of the IRS, the Department of Commerce, and the Department of Energy.

    Aside from the fact that he’d be getting rid of an Constitutionally-mandated office (ahem, the Patent Office), how does the fool plan to pay for anything?

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  6. Sleeping Dog says:

    @grumpy realist:

    He doesn’t. In the magic world of DeSantistan it will be all milk and honey following the defeat of the woke.

  7. Kylopod says:

    @grumpy realist: I think he was just trying to do Rick Perry without the oops. Which he thinks is good strategy.

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  8. Kazzy says:

    @Mr. Prosser: This is why I say that if we want to talk about “responsible gun owners shouldn’t be punished” then we need to define and punishing the irresponsible ones. Leaving a gun in your car unlocked is highly irresponsible and if you do it, you should be punished by having your right to carry revoked.

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  9. Mister Bluster says:

    @grumpy realist:..fool

    Since 2015, Florida has received $21.1 million from the Weatherization Assistance Program (WAP) and $13.9 million from the State Energy Program (SEP), resulting in the following benefits:Link US Department of Energy

    I’m sure Governor DeSantis will gladly return these federal funds from the Florida Treasury to assist financing the dismantling of the US Department of Energy.

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  10. steve says:

    Too lazy to go find the source but a surprisingly high number of guns have been left in bathrooms and other places by school employees that have been found by kids. By and large nothing happens to those employees.

    Steve

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  11. Mr. Prosser says:

    @Kazzy: Agree. There needs to be severe liability as well.

  12. Gustopher says:

    In some cities, organized groups of young people have swept through neighborhoods and areas around sports arenas, looking for weapons left under car seats or in unlocked center consoles or glove compartments.

    Are they then selling the guns, or are they activists getting loose guns off the street and destroying them?

    If the latter, I’m willing to contribute to a bail fund or legal defense fund.

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  13. Kazzy says:

    @Mr. Prosser: I’ve offered this proposal in several places and every “responsible gun owner advocate” poo poos it without explanation:
    1.) Have your guns, but you are responsible for them.
    2.) If a gun is used in a crime, the owner is liable
    3.) If that gun was lost or stolen and the owner filed a prompt and proper police report, they can avoid liability and maintain their license.
    4.) If a gun owner has more than 1 gun lost or stolen, they lose their license.

    To me, it seems pretty straightforward: if you take care of your gun and it is never used in any sort of criminal activity, you’re fine. If you don’t — if you are irresponsible with your gun — you’ve got some problems coming your way.

    For whatever reason, this is a non-stater.

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  14. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Kazzy:

    For whatever reason, this is a non-stater.

    I think that the non-stater quality comes from what “you lose your license” means in the context of

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. [emphasis added]

    and how much weight people place on the last highlighted portion of the statement.

  15. Kazzy says:

    Well, sure. But those are the same people who want to nail Hunter Biden’s ass to the wall because he ILLEGALLY possessed a gun as a drug user. So they’re okay with certain restrictions.

    Further, all these people talk about is how RESPONSIBLE gun owners shouldn’t be punished. Fine! I agree! But the implication is that it is okay to punish IRRESPONSIBLE gun owners. But they don’t actually want that either. They just want there to be no rules for (white, male) gun owners.

  16. Rick DeMent says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker:

    … how much weight people place on the last highlighted portion of the statement.

    Sure I agree but there is a bigger problem.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State …

    This is no longer true and hasn’t been since the end of the War of 1812. Full stop. the militia has not played a significant role in the defense of the country since Washington decided that the best course of action during the whiskey rebellion was to shoot farmers. Not great from a freedom standpoint but it was also the last time we had a coherent farm policy (with all due respect to PJ O’Rourke).

    The 2nd Amendment was created in order to prevent the US government from creating a large peacetime standing army. That ship has sailed and a bunch of authoritarian curious yahoos reinterpreting it to mean an unlimited right to walk around Wal*Mart with an arsenal for god know what unchecked doesn’t change that.

    So sure, I get it, it’s dueling interpretations, but I get frustrated when it’s asserted that the 2nd is unarguably a blank check for everyone to be armed to the teeth at all times when we have operated under an interpretation that focused on the first phrase much much longer. The idea that the 2nd amendment ties our hands form doing things that should be common sense is exhausting, pernicious, and wrong. For crying out loud Jefferson himself was comfortable with banning firearms on the Campus of the University of Virginia.

    TLDR: You can interpret the constitutional any way you want, even to include authoritarian and anti-majoritarian concepts as perfectly constitutional.

  17. just nutha says:

    @Rick DeMent: @Kazzy: All I’m doing is suggesting why Kazzy’s idea is the non- starter he says it is. If I treated a rhetorical question as non, my apologies.

  18. Kazzy says:

    Oh, I didn’t mean to get argumentative. I’m sure that is what they’d point at. They’d also conveniently forget that when arguing against the gun rights of people not their tribe.