Higher Vaccination Rates=Lower Hospitalization Rates
Unsurprising news is unsurprising.
The WSJ has a study that shows a clear relationship between vaccination rates and hospitalizations at the state level: Highly Vaccinated States Keep Worst Covid-19 Outcomes in Check as Delta Spreads, WSJ Analysis Shows.
From the piece:
In the first big test of Covid- 19 vaccines during a Covid-19 surge, places with higher vaccination rates are dodging the worst outcomes so far, while cases and hospitalizations surge in less-vaccinated areas.
There are more tests yet to come, including when cold weather forces people in the well-vaccinated Northeast back indoors. But as the highly contagious Delta strain tears through the country, the trends thus far suggest vaccines can turn Covid-19 into a less dangerous, more manageable disease.
“Vaccines definitely make a difference,” said David Dowdy, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
A Wall Street Journal analysis shows sharp geographic divides in vaccination and hospitalization levels, with every state that has an above-average vaccine rate showing below-average hospitalizations, including in well-vaccinated New England. In the South, meanwhile, fewer people are vaccinated on average and hospitalization rates are climbing faster.
There is quite a bit more at the link.
At Faux News and the NY Post, this will be branded as fake news, if mentioned at all. Perhaps even on the WSJ’s own opinion page.
As the cold sets in, it is likely that the northeast and other highly vaxxed northern states will see a pump in hospitalizations and deaths, but the incidence of Covid will be less than what we are seeing in low vaxxed states today.
This was previously observed in Israel and the UK.
Ok, FL has a fairly high vax rate (kind of median) and yet it has a very high case rate. It has been puzzling me.
Large numbers of egregious unsafe behavior? Going to clubs or church without masks? I dunno.
@Jay L Gischer:
The high vax rate is due to seniors lining up to be jabbed, less so among the young. Also, most people are choosing to socialize inside, who wants to be outside during a Fla summer.
@Jay L Gischer: Florida’s 65+ cohort is fully vaccinated at a rate slightly higher than the country (81% v. 80%), which may account for some of this.
I think, too, it is worth noting that Florida is kind of two states, one pretty deep red and the other fairly blue, which also would produce some weirdness versus, say, Alabama.
@Jay L Gischer: This is a helpful resource: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
Wait, so, they’re saying that vaccinated populations are less vulnerable than unvaccinated populations? Why, I never.
I mean, just because it worked that way for smallpox, polio, diphtheria, typhoid, measles, German measles, shingles, pertussis, meningitis, HPV, tetanus and the flu, not to mention all the diseases we vaccinate cows, pigs and chickens against, it’s still surprising that this vaccine would have the same effect as every other vaccine, human, bovine, porcine, fowl, feline and canine.
There remains no effective vaccine for stupidity.
Breitbart writer Kurt Schlichter is going Nazi, apparently
@Michael Reynolds:
And natural selection doesn’t seem to be doing the job either.
@Gustopher:
“And natural selection doesn’t seem to be doing the job either.”
Not within the time periods we are talking about, no.
@Teve: Good gawd. You have to think Poe’s Law and maybe it’s parody. But it looks like it’s genuine. And it’s got a lot more likes than comments. I see the same sort of stuff at TAC. At the risk of being accused of ethnic stereotyping, at least Kurt Schlichter has an appropriate name.
@Teve: @gVOR08:
Schlichter adores Trump, whom he loathed up until Trump won the nomination in 2016.
He also claims his canteens froze while he was “fighting” in the Gulf War.
Lunatic? Phony? You decide. “Both” is eminently possible.
@CSK: in the mountains in the north it sometimes *barely* hits freezing but I don’t buy the canteen story.
@Teve:
@Teve:
I don’t buy the “fighting” story, either.
Did you know he’s the author of self-published “conservative dystopian action novels”?
@CSK: i did not, I actually got him confused with curt schilling
@CSK:
I arrived in Saudi Arabia on December 24, 1990 and returned to my base in Germany on April 23, 1991. During the land portion of the Gulf War, my unit moved into southern Iraq and stayed there until shortly before redeployment. So I was there during the “coldest” part of the year and I can tell you it never got cold enough for anything to freeze.
@Mikey:
I believe you.
@Moosebreath: You would hope the anti mask brigade in 1918 would have weeded out some of the worst. And various antivaxxers over the past century.
Instead the stupid seems to have metastasized.
@Teve: kidding on the square, if a joke at all.
It’s like when I joke about all the bodies in my basement…
Been waiting all day for someone to comment, but I guess it’s up to me for the cheap shot.
And here at SNL news, water continues to be wet, sun continues to rise in the east, Generalissimo Franco is still dead…
On a cheerier note, daughter’s fiancée had his hip replacement yesterday morning, and should be home Tuesday morning. They’d release him tomorrow, but at 6’11, they’ve got to find him a walker and crutches that fit.
@Teve:
Does this mean he’s going to avoid ALL of us? Oh goody!
@Teve:
Isn’t he Alex Jones’s chief flunky?
@Teve: Hallelujah!
@flat earth luddite: I know, right?! If they would just avoid ME, with all my vaccine shedding and whatnot, man, that would really make things easier!
@Teve:
The more imbeciles like Watson avoid us, the better. Garbage humans all.
@Jax:
I know, I know. If they’d just go back into their caves, and quick knocking on my cave entrance, I’d be soooo much happier. I swear, they’re more annoying than the dudes with copies of the Watchtower, or Jerry from the alumni committee…
@Gustopher:
“And natural selection doesn’t seem to be doing the job either.”
It seems internet and social media is having a prophylactic effect. Electronics seem to be distracting them away from the many pitfalls that usually get them.
@flat earth luddite: Or the ones asking if I’d like to save my immortal soul. I have sage sticks, funky candles and a room full of tiedyed tapestries right by the door they knock on….”Ye want to save my immortal soul, do ye, laddie?!” (proper witch laugh) 😛
@Jax:
Oh, I varied between my “Witch Hazel cackle” and “Bwa-ha-ha-hahahahahahaha. Happy smile, why yes, come in. You’re just in time…”
@flat earth luddite: My very best friend and I had an apartment together for quite some time. We LOVED the Mormon boys come a knockin. 9 times out of 10, they ran. The last pair….well, let’s just say they weren’t on their mission willingly, and they frequently stopped by to try to “save our immortal souls” (cough cough, smoke weed).
I gotta wonder how they feel about that “mission” stuff. If I had to go save souls, I’d want to go somewhere exotic. Not BFE, Idaho.
Well, shit, just got off a call w/my mother who lives in Southern CA, my niece (young teenager age) has covid but she is double vaccinated so that is the only silver lining. She has major allergy issues so her immune system is not the strongest which is probably what allowed for a break-through case. I will be vague, but it appears that the friend she was visiting in Big Bear this weekend also has Covid (so basically, kids are now getting hit w/Covid) and if I understood my mother correctly my nieces’ friends mother too (who is an actor/actress in Hollywood, a pretty well known character actor).
I talked my Mom down from a wee bit of hysteria and noted that they are double-vaccinated themselves and have shown no symptoms so even though my mid-70s parents are getting tested out of an abundance of caution due to this news, this is just another data point that we need to stop being nice to the folks who say they wont get to shot just to hurt Biden, they need to stow that shit-talk away and grow up and get the shots! The worst thing about Covid is it has shown how many adults are less mature than children in this country. The kids these days indeed, they have more smarts than most of the adults out there.
@Jax:
I’m with you, Jax. Although a friend pointed out that sitting honing a kitchen knife while nodding and smiling at their spiel was a bit over the top. Who knew?
OTOH, the neighborhood gendarmes were a bit put out when I pointed out that my handloads would most likely penetrate what passed for body armor in those days.
Note that for every vaccine listed above by Michael Reynolds, some factories occasionally had issues.. and those issues were not because the vaccine had problems. Those issues were due to problems with the manufacturing of the already-worked-out vaccine.
Also, the number to pay attention to is the rate of issues/concerns per 1000 people.
When Fox shows you one random person that may have a bad negative reaction to one of the vaccines.. Quick, how often throughout your life have you heard of people stroking or having permanent brain damage from the tetanus vaccine? Those have both in fact happened.. but because the frequency of occurrence of that is ridiculously small, it’s not worth concern.
@flat earth luddite: Best time I ever had as a high school girl was at branding time. My Dad’s famous for his castration skills, his knife is so fast and sharp they don’t even bleed. I’d invite every boy I ever thought I might be interested in, then wait to see who could stomach wrestling calves with me, with my Dad on the knife and giving them the eye. Easy way to weed the weaklings out!
@Jax:
When I was little I got shipped off to my grandparents for the summer to basically be an indentured servant and help out on the farm. I hated it.
Worst by far was de-horning. Some dude came by once a summer to cut the horns off of the heifers. The critter was freaking out. The smell of friction burnt horn is utterly disgusting, revolting, reflex vomit inducing. Nasty. My job was to stay close and comfort as best I could while not getting kicked while trying not to puke. 15 or 20 in a half day.
And then the inseminator guy came around. Oh my dear flipping Jesus!!! No 8 year old should witness that! Dude wore an arm condom up past the elbow. Petroleum jelly. Did all the cows and never changed his arm condom once. Just re-lubed.
The process is quite invasive as you can imagine. My job was to hold the tail out of way. It is a wonder I am capable of sexual congress at all given the massive trauma of witnessing that at that age.
The bellows and vocalized utter indignation of the cows was deafening and kinda heartbreaking. Afterall they were basically being raped by a different species utterly against their will.
When The Silence Of The Lambs came out decades later and Lecter says to Clarice “You still wake up sometimes, don’t you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs.” I got chills and goosebumps.