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Doug Mataconis
About Doug Mataconis
Doug holds a B.A. in Political Science from Rutgers University and J.D. from George Mason University School of Law. He joined the staff of OTB in May 2010 and contributed a staggering 16,483 posts before his retirement in January 2020.


  1. Teve says:

    “I don’t have any problem with women candidates I just don’t like Hillary because she’s too shrill.”
    “Okay, fine she’s not running this time. How about Elizabeth Warren.”
    “Oh she’s too shrill too.”
    “Okay, whatever. Have you seen Kamala Harris?”
    “What did you think?”
    “Too… what’s the word…?”
    “That’s it!”
    “Boy you certainly aren’t just sexist, are you?”
    “Certainly not!”

  2. OzarkHillbilly says:
  3. OzarkHillbilly says:
  4. Teve says:

    Tony Posnanski
    One huge difference between Donald Trump and Megan Rapinoe is she doesn’t have to pay 130k to score.

  5. OzarkHillbilly says:

    @Teve: Anne Laurie put that up at Balloon Juice this morn. As I said then, “That’s gonna leave a mark.”

  6. CSK says:

    @Teve: Love it!

  7. Stormy Dragon says:

    So a reporter asked Donald Trump what he thought about the controversy with Biden’s debate response on the 1970s bussing issue, and Trump’s answer made it clear he thinks the controversy was about whether kids should walk to school instead.

  8. SenyorDave says:

    I couldn’t sleep last night so I flipped on the TV at about 3 AM. I turned to NHK, a Japanese station that has some interesting travelogues about Japan, which is #1 on my bucket list to visit. They had breaking news, and Trump was on speaking. I can’t stand listening to him so I muted the TV and put on captions. He was speaking about the Summit. All the words he was using were adjectives like big, important, beautiful, wonderful, etc. I’m guessing he speaks at bout fifth-sixth grade level. Also, since the remarks were not prepared, he has no depth at all. It is so apparent that he has no understanding at all about any issues. He’s a moron.

  9. Teve says:

    @Stormy Dragon: did you see his response to a reporter asking him about Putin’s comments about liberal democracy?

  10. Teve says:

    Jess Dweck
    DEMS: There are a lot of great candidates but we need to pick the smartest one with the exact right views on every issue

    GOP: Our guy knows what a school bus is. Good to go

  11. An Interested Party says:

    @Teve: It wasn’t pretty…this idiot makes George W. Bush look like a genius…

  12. Kathy says:

    I thought I’d mention that Audible is running a 2 books for one credit member-only “Never Stop Learning” sale in selected titles in non-fiction, science, history, etc. including tons of Great Courses lecture series.

    Lucky me, I had six credits piled up, so I’m picking up lots of books which will take me past next year. Sale ends July 4th at 11:59 Pacific time.

    Currently I’m reading Aftermath: Star Wars. It’s a different book than I’m used to, as it includes sound effects, background sounds, and some music (including the Star Wars fanfare at the start). It’s part of a series covering part of the period after “Return of the Jedi.”

  13. Teve says:

    @An Interested Party: Republicans just get progressively worse. Dumber and more racist every year. By 2024 they’ll be running Coach Dave Daubenmire, and the VP candidate will be that guy who shot up that Cosmic Pizza place. 🙂

  14. Teve says:

    @Kathy: I just picked up Quicksilver at the library, I’m going to reread the whole Baroque Cycle. It should take me through about Halloween 😀

  15. Teve says:

    @An Interested Party: if Trump can manage not to start a war for the next 18 months though he’ll go down in history as a better president than George W bush, who got half a million people killed.

  16. Teve says:

    Public service announcement inspired by reading through a Twitter comment thread about Bret Stephens’s latest stupid New York Times article:

    If a name ends with an s, you do not make it possessive by putting an apostrophe before the s. If his name is Bret Stephens, do not refer to “Bret Stephen’s article.” They’re Tiger Woods’s golf clubs, Alanis’s songs, and Bill Gates’s book recommendations. If you’re a pervert you can just put the apostrophe and leave off the second s: Gates’. But it’s never Gate’s.

    Who let the’se idiot’s on my internet? 😛

  17. Paine says:

    Josh Marshall makes the same point I tried to make in a previous thread:

    Because we are humans we tend to think, confront the past and the future, in terms of symbols and moments. I’ve been reading through all your emails that I asked for last night and I was struck that one moment came up again and again: the Trump/Clinton debates, specifically the town hall style debate on October 9th, in which Trump seemed to stalk Clinton around the stage, getting into her space, looming over her. Reader after reader invoked that moment and said Harris clearly wouldn’t let that happen.

    I don’t know if she or her strategists specifically were thinking of that moment. But as I wrote last night, her physical energy, body language and assertion of mastery and power were her biggest message of the evening. It was meant for last night but just as much, I think, Trump. She was telling voters clearly that she would put up with nothing from Trump.

  18. Paine says:

    This was posted over at Balloon Juice. Hilarious video of Ivanka trying butt in on a talk with some G20 heavy-hitters. Gets side-eye and awkward silence in response.

  19. grumpy realist says:

    The Guardian has come up with a list of Silicon Valley vocabulary, with definitions. I chortled at quite a few of them.

  20. grumpy realist says:

    @SenyorDave: Get a JR rail pass for a week/two weeks/however much time you’ll be visiting. Unless they’ve changed the system, you need to purchase the one for tourists outside the country. You can even get Shinkansen rail passes (not for the Nozomi, however) which I highly recommend if you want to do any amount of traveling. All the JR lines have english signs at each station; the private train lines can still be lacking.

    Things you definitely want to do while in Japan: spend at least one night at a Japanese onsen (hot springs) with a rotenburo (outside pool). Nothing like lounging in hot water looking up at the stars and listening to the nightbirds and insects…

  21. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: I’m much kinder than you :-), so I’m willing to give people a pass of any “Stephens” name for possessive errors. The way the name is pronounced, the terminal “s” frequently gets semi-elided and tends to be difficult to hear to begin with. Easy mistake to make.

    On the other hand, considering that you’re referring to a review of an article, it’s a little harder for me to allow because the person should have the article in question at hand. That makes the misspelling doltish because you can see the name right there. DUH!

    Interestingly enough, I was in grad school while the fluff up about “apostrophe s” or “s apostrophe” was going on. From what I recall, the decision to go with apostrophe s as the universal standard (not rule) was because people couldn’t remember “the rule” because it’s so seldom used. Even 30 years later (wow), students still ask me which is correct sometimes. I tell them just be sure to not leave out the apostrophe and they can stick on an “s” if it looks right to them. (I know that’s risky with students, but “either way is correct” isn’t clear enough for some of them.)

  22. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @grumpy realist: In the case of the cloud, an alternative definition would include having given millions in tax breaks in return for buying the electricity that the aluminum plant used to use at the same (or a similar) discounted rate. (See: server farms in The Dalles, OR)

  23. Teve says:

    @Just nutha ignint cracker: I can be a jackas’s at time’s.

  24. Guarneri says:

    News Item:

    The Democrat candidates were invited to address a gathering of the Indian First Nations chiefs in Denver, CO.

    Each spoke in total for almost two hours about their plans for increasing the standard of living for all of their citizens by totally free government grants for free college educations, free Medicare for all,etc. They mentioned how they always supported these issues that came forward to them.

    Although They were vague about the details for the funding of the plans, they spoke eloquently about these ideas if one wins the White House in 2020.

    At the conclusion of his speech, the chiefs presented each of them with a
    beautiful plaque inscribed with their new Indian name, “Walking Eagle.”

    The proud candidates accepted the plaque and then returned home.

    A news reporter asked the chiefs how they came to select the new name they had given to the candidates.

    The Chiefs explained that “Walking Eagle” is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

  25. grumpy realist says:

    @Guarneri: Considering the promises that The Fat Mango has made (and not carried out), this moth-eaten tale really applies to another person.

    Not that you’ll ever admit it, however, Drew.

  26. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @Teve: Is it really that you’re being a jackass, or is it that I’m being a pedant? Either way, it’s all good because it’s open forum.

  27. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    @grumpy realist: Point taken! Still in all, a relatively cute joke given Guarneri’s usual output. Way more clever than his basic schtick. I wonder what YA reader joke book he got it from and whether the book belongs to his grandkid or great grandkid.

  28. restless says:


    You need new material.


    “It was in 2004 that we first encountered Internet versions of a piece about Native Americans tagging a pandering U.S. politician seeking their votes in an upcoming election with the name “Walking Eagle” (or “Running Eagle”) because that’s “the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.” This item is simply an old bit of humor that is dusted off and trotted out every election cycle…”