Donald Trump Still Hates Canada

President Trump is once again threatening to lower the tariff hammer on one of America's most reliable allies and biggest trading partners.

As another deadline nears for the ongoing efforts to renegotiate or amend the North American Free Trade Agreement, President Trump decided it was time to bash Canada again:

WASHINGTON — President Trump said he rejected a meeting with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada during the United Nations General Assembly this week and threatened on Wednesday to punish Canada by taxing the cars it exports into America, signaling a new low in relations between the two nations.

Mr. Trump’s comments come after months of tense trade negotiations between Canada and the United States have failed to produce an agreement and as the White House prepares to move ahead with a bilateral trade deal with just Mexico.

“Frankly, we’re thinking about just taxing cars coming in from Canada,” Mr. Trump said at a news conference on Wednesday. “That’s the mother lode. That’s the big one. We’re very unhappy with the negotiations and the negotiating style of Canada.”

Trade tensions between the United States and Canada have been rising for months, and relations between Mr. Trump and Mr. Trudeau have soured amid disagreements over the future of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Mr. Trump said he turned down a meeting with Mr. Trudeau because Canada had treated the United States “very badly” and because of its high dairy tariffs, which are preventing the United States from selling milk into Canada. A spokesman for Mr. Trudeau said the prime minister never requested such a meeting.

On Tuesday, Mr. Trump appeared to snub Mr. Trudeau when he did not stand to shake the Canadian prime minister’s hand during a lunch at the United Nations summit meeting. Mr. Trudeau said the two leaders did not meet because their schedules were full of meetings with leaders from far-flung countries.

But Mr. Trump did not offer a similar excuse, instead berating Canada over its negotiating style and its negotiator. “We don’t like their representative very much,” Mr. Trump said Wednesday, apparently referring to Chrystia Freeland, the Canadian foreign minister, who has been leading the Nafta talks for her country. Ms. Freeland has irked some in the administration by giving speeches suggesting that the United States, under Mr. Trump’s leadership, is turning its back on democratic values and its traditional role as a global leader.

Mr. Trump left open the possibility of reaching a deal with Canada, but said there would be no more Nafta.

“I don’t like Nafta. I’ve never liked it. It’s been very bad for the United States. It’s been great for Canada, great for Mexico,” Mr. Trump said, adding that he would rename the pact “U.S.M.C.” for United States-Mexico-Canada.

The Trump administration is expected to send Congress text of a new Nafta on Friday that does not include Canada, according to congressional aides and others familiar with the discussions, raising doubts about the ability to keep the 25-year-old trilateral pact intact.

One month after the United States and Mexico reached a bilateral trade deal, talks between American and Canadian officials have yet to produce a similar agreement, with significant differences unresolved.

Robert Lighthizer, Mr. Trump’s top trade negotiator, said on Wednesday that “at this point, we are running out of time” for negotiations with the Canadians.

The impending failure to reach an agreement among the three countries by Sept. 30 is creating a new round of uncertainty for companies whose supply chains and businesses depend on access to all three markets and for lawmakers, who must determine whether they can allow the United States to go it alone with Mexico.

Mexico and the United States want to sign a final deal before the new Mexican government takes over on Dec. 1, and the final text of trade agreements must be released 60 days before they are signed by the president, under United States law, fueling the deadline.

Mr. Trump would not commit to pulling out of Nafta but said he was willing to go it alone with Mexico for now.

“We’re very well along the way with Mexico, the relationship’s very good,” Mr. Trump said. “We’ll see what happens with Canada. They’re charging us 300 percent tariffs on dairy. We can’t allow that to happen.”

Specifically, The Washington Post reports that the President is considering raising tariffs on Canadian-made automobiles:

President Trump said Wednesday he was planning to impose severe economic penalties against Canada if it does not agree to major changes in its trade policies.

Speaking at a news conference in New York, Trump also said he was planning to effectively terminate the North American Free Trade Agreement and impose steep tariffs on all automotive imports from Canada to the United States.

“That’s the mother lode,” he said. “That’s the big one.”

Trump’s comments came as his relationship with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau appeared to hit a new low. The White House wanted Trudeau to agree to changes to NAFTA by this weekend, but talks stalled several days ago over a number of issues.

Canada is the United States’s largest trading partner, but Trump has accused Canadians of ripping off American workers for years, largely because of complaints he has heard from dairy farmers in Wisconsin and New York.

As the relationship between Trump and Trudeau continues to worsen, it is unclear what that could mean for either economy, or for the trade relationship that connects thousands of companies in both countries.

Meanwhile, Trump’s claim that he deliberately snubbed Trudeau at the United Nations received pushback after the President’s press conference was over when it was revealed that there was no meeting scheduled between the two men:

President Donald Trump claimed he snubbed a meeting request from Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the United Nations this week. “I’ve told him forget about it,” Trump remarked Wednesday during a news conference on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly.

Canada, however, was quick to cry foul. No such meeting was ever requested, a Trudeau spokesman told CNN, adding: “We do not have any comment beyond that.”

The back and forth about the supposed meeting comes amid the U.S. and Canada’s acrimonious renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA, and follows months of souring relations between the two North American neighbors.

Speaking at the news conference, Trump alleged he refused a “one-on-one meeting” with Trudeau because of Canada’s high dairy tariffs and poor “negotiating style.” He also took a shot at Canada’s “representative” in the NAFTA negotiations, an apparent reference to Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, who has been leading Canada’s negotiations with the U.S.

Trudeau’s “tariffs are too high, and he doesn’t seem to want to move, and I’ve told him forget about it, and frankly, we’re thinking about just taxing cars coming in from Canada,” Trump said. “That’s the mother lode. That’s the big one.”

He added: “We’re very unhappy with the negotiations and the negotiating style of Canada. We don’t like their representative very much.”

Trudeau and Trump were captured on camera briefly shaking hands on Tuesday during a luncheon for world leaders.

Trudeau, who was standing, tapped Trump’s shoulder to greet him. The U.S. president stayed seated as he extended his hand for a cursory handshake. Trump’s decision to stay seated during the exchange has been described as a snub and as showing a lack of diplomatic etiquette.

On a logical level, the President’s animosity toward Canada in general and Prime Minister Trudeau specifically are utterly bizarre and not based in common sense or evidence. As has been pointed out numerous times, Canada is one of America’s largest trading partner and we share the longest peaceful border of any two nations on the planet. In 2017, our total goods and services trade with Canada totaled roughly $673.1 billion dollars, including exports totaling $ 340.7 billion and imports totaling $332.3 billion, leaving the United States with a trade surplus with Canada of $8.4 billion, which is consistent with the trade surplus we’ve run for many years. (Source) This compares favorably to our trade relationship with China, Mexico, Japan, South Korea, TaiwanAustralia, and the United Kingdom. When it comes to trade and business, the United States and Canada not only have a strong trading relationship but what effectively operates as a single market that benefits businesses and consumers on both sides of the American-Canadian border.

Additionally, Canada is one of America’s closest and longest-standing allies. Canadians have fought alongside Americans in numerous conflicts including World War Two, the Persian Gulf War, and the War in Afghanistan. Canada and the United States also share an air defense command in NORAD that is one of the longest-standing military alliances in the world. Finally, it was, of course, Canada that played host to hundreds of American tourists who were prevented from landing in the United States on September 11th, 2001. Canadian citizens are perhaps our biggest source of foreign tourism and travel, and Americans cross the border into Canada on such a regular basis that crossing the border back and forth from Canada to the United States and vice versa. Despite all of this, this President has done everything he can to ruin that relationship.

In May, for example, the President revoked the exemption from the steel and aluminum tariffs that had been announced back in March that applied to American allies in Europe as well as Canada and Mexico. In doing so, Trump claimed that he was taking this action for “national security” reasons, an utterly silly notion that doesn’t even come close to meeting the test of credulity. Needless to say, this didn’t go over very well with our allies in Europe and elsewhere. Canada’s Foreign Minister called the new tariffs “absurd,” for example, and European Union officials announced retaliatory tariffs against American goods. Things got even more bizarre in this regard as Trump exchanged harsh words with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau prior to the G-7 Summit. Once he was at the summit, Trump essentially did everything he could to alienate America’s closest allies, thereby seemingly achieving a goal that Russia and, before it, the Soviet Union had only dreamed of, driving a wedge between the United States and its allies. After the Singapore Photo Op Summit, Trump continued his tirade against Trudeau, while polling revealed that Canadian public opinion about the United States was suffering as a result of American actions and the President’s rhetoric.

The President’s attacks on Canadian auto exports are particularly absurd, though. Nearly all, if not all, of the automobiles assembled in Canada, are from American car companies, many of whom have factories established on the other side of the border for economic and other reasons. Additionally, nearly all of those Canadian factories rely on parts that are produced in the United States, and in many cases, the car factories in the United States rely on parts that are produced in Canada. Attacking Canadian car exports is only going to harm American car companies, American car parts suppliers, and American consumers.

So much for the idea that that  “trade wars are good and easy to win.”

FILED UNDER: Congress, Donald Trump, Economics and Business, International Trade, Politicians, US Politics, ,
Doug Mataconis
About Doug Mataconis
Doug holds a B.A. in Political Science from Rutgers University and J.D. from George Mason University School of Law. He joined the staff of OTB in May 2010. Before joining OTB, he wrote at Below The BeltwayThe Liberty Papers, and United Liberty Follow Doug on Twitter | Facebook

Comments

  1. CSK says:

    Trump may not be aware that “U.S.M.C.” is already taken. But he could check with General Mattis.

    Seriously: Is he just jealous of Trudeau? The guy’s infinitely more attractive (in all senses of the word) than Trump is.

    14
  2. Gustopher says:

    To be fair, Canada hates Trump. He’s horrible, and they notice things like that.

    And, Canada’s success, right at our border, with much more liberal policies, shows that American Exceptionalism isn’t all that exceptional, and that you can run a budget deficit about a quarter of ours by GDP, have higher taxes, similar unemployment, similar standard of living, and a strong social safety net.

    Canada’s economy is doing better for the people of Canada than the US’s economy is doing for the people of the US. And it shows that a more Democratic economic policy works just fine.

    Of course Trump hates that.

    18
  3. Daryl and his brother Darryl says:

    @Gustopher:

    Canada’s economy is doing better for the people of Canada than the US’s economy is doing for the people of the US. And it shows that a more Democratic economic policy works just fine.
    Of course Trump hates that.

    Dennison is not even smart enough to understand that, much less form an opinion about it.

  4. Kylopod says:

    @Gustopher: I’m not sure Trump understands Canada’s system enough to resent it the way you describe. I think the true explanation is much simpler: Trump looks down on democratic systems, which he perceives as “weak.” Over the years, the world leaders who have earned his highest praise have been autocrats: Putin, Xi, Kim Jong Un, Duterte, Saddam, Qaddafi. His biggest fights have been with democratic leaders: Angela Merkel, Theresa May, Macron, and of course Trudeau. He’s often very explicit about why he feels this way, like when he speaks admiringly about how Putin consolidated power (glossing over the whole murder thing), or his “joking” about how great it is the president of China can serve for life. His comments are always framed in terms of strength and weakness, where “strength” to him means the ability to get things done without the inconvenient barriers in democratic governments.

    It’s not so much that he “hates” Canada as that he views it as a punching bag, the next-door neighbor he can bully, and prove his dominance over.

    12
  5. grumpy realist says:

    OT, but I had to giggle at how an accidental crash-out Brexit may force certain Brits to subsist on vegetarian cookery.

    At least PETA should be happy!

    (For those of us watching the whole Brexit car crash with fascination, don’t forget to keep your eye on the Tory party gathering next week. With luck, we’ll see a ding-dong fight between The Oaf and The Maybot, with maybe a bit part for The Umbrella. Popcorn galore!)

  6. Robert C says:

    Trumps disdain for Canada’s Trade Rep reeks of misogyny. He hates tough women.

  7. george says:

    Actually NAFTA has been bad for Canada; too much trade concentrated in one trading partner. In the long run we’re better off without it.

    Trump’s doing his part in helping the world move away from an American centered view to a more China based one, one trade war at a time.

    Most people I’ve talked to (including non-Liberal Party voters) agree with Trudeau that no deal is better than a bad deal; not giving in to Trump is good for Trudeau, and to such an extent that some Conservative Party backers are suggesting Trudeau has a vested political interest in not signing a deal with Trump.

    I don’t think its doing much to Canadian’s opinions of America; Trump is seen is a loose cannon who got in on a weird election bounce. If he gets re-elected that might change.

    2
    1
  8. An Interested Party says:

    So…insulting one of our most important allies while kissing the a$$ of the dictator in North Korea is now what passes for American foreign policy…would anyone care to explain how this is going to make America great again…

  9. Just nutha ignint cracker says:

    “… utterly bizarre and not based in common sense or evidence”

    So we’re still at the current status quo for domestic, foreign, and economic affairs for the Trump Administration. We’ve had a great run as the leader of the free world. I wonder who’s going to take over when we’ve finally lost all credibility?

  10. Electroman says:

    @george: Indeed, the Canadian side of my family likes to say that NAFTA really stands for “Nearly Always Favors The Americans”. They’re joking, but only partially.

  11. Lounsbury says:

    @george: No you’re not, that’s daft innumerate idiocy on the level of Brexiters idiocies.

  12. Hal_10000 says:

    I don’t think Trump hates Canada. That’s too big a thought for him. I think he hate Trudeau for the crime of being more popular than him.

  13. george says:

    @Lounsbury:

    No, because Canada’s signing the TPP and looking to make trade deals with the EU, China and Japan. The problem with NAFTA hasn’t been foreign trade, which is a good thing, but that the trade was concentrated in just one partner – and when someone like Trump comes along it becomes very obvious how dangerous that is.

    Brexit is about stopping foreign trade. Canada’s position is that foreign trade should be diversified beyond NAFTA. Those are very different positions.

  14. Richared Gardner says:

    I live near (200 kms) the Canadian border near the busiest border crossing. Unlike what Gustopher says, my Canadian friends do NOT hate Trump (“To be fair, Canada hates Trump”), they are more interested in Canadian politics (to be fair, most of my Canuck friends do not like Trudeau, but they also do not like the Trump-Trudeau BS). And some of my Canadian friends are pro-Trump (and are surprised I’m not).
    On the dairy products, easy google, lots of articles from 2012 (Obama) when it was a major internet meme, Canadians buying pallets of milk (yes, pallets, and I’ve seen it) from the Bellingham WA COSTCO, not new. (Note: since 2012 the COSTCO has moved closer to I-5 due to traffic issues caused by Canadian traffic.
    To reverse this, I go to BC (British Columbia) to buy my BBQ rub sugar (from Thailand or India), no tariffs into Canada so about 1/3rd the price and better quality than what I can get in the USA. Seriously, protecting big sugar?

    Since so many of the pickup trucks are now produced in Canuckistan (Canada) this is empty words, will impact the base too much.